I'm sure i'm not alone on this but loli the moderator is difficult to deal with. My first encounter with them happened when I posted a meta image in the hunger games sim. Gallery. It featured Don so loli moved it. However, instead of moving it to the Don page(where it currently is) they moved it to no entry. In photo jokingly regarding kym's time limit on up/downvotes, they stated the voting system should be removed.
As another user and I where jokingly attempting to get the don page to trend by commenting on it(as countless have done before with other articles), loli lashed out by stating it's not allowed to trend, even though other deadpooled articles have trended. Maybe i'm just stupid.
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Loli is fine, you're probably overreacting. He was right for moving the meta image to no entry. Technically, that's the rule, but it could go in Don as well so it eventually was, that's one mistake on his part.
As for the voting thing, he legitimately has the opinion there should be no voting. How is this your problem? It's just an opinion. Doesn't make him a bad mod.
And deadpooled entries can't trend, he's correct. I think you're correct in that they used to but that has been fixed for a while. Don only trended on its initial upload and for April Fools' when it was confirmed. Other than that deadpooled entries stay hidden unless you look them up.
So yeah, loli's nice, he's just seen as some kind of nazi because he's always moving images out of galleries where an image would get more upvotes to where it actually should belong categorically. If you got to know him he's kind of rude but overall is nice and warms up to people quickly. As a mod he's doing a fine job as I said. He might make a mistake or two but as I said he usually does what the rules say regardless if users like it or not. And there are other image mods too to debate him or make decisions together so it's not like he goes unchallenged and does whatever he wants.
Sounds like he's just doing his job as a moderator. If you have any complaints about rules, talk about it to the people who make them, not the ones who enforce them.
As Sam said, Loli is completely in the right. You do know that a) uploading meta content to galleries and b) purosefully trying to trend entries is against the rules right? And Loli is far from the only mod who doesn't like the voting system, there are quite a few, myself included. So yeah, Loli acted entirely within the rules
My first encounter with them happened when I posted a meta image in the hunger games sim. Gallery. It featured Don so loli moved it. However, instead of moving it to the Don page(where it currently is) they moved it to no entry.
In that case why you didn't upload it into the Don gallery? We put up a notification saying "please don't upload meta images or images with users on it", if you can't follow it then deal with the consequences. We don't allow meta content on image galleries. Period.
I could have moved it to the Don gallery if you asked me to, but instead of that you decided to reply the warning I gave you with "get a sense of humor".
In photo jokingly regarding kym’s time limit on up/downvotes, they stated the voting system should be removed.
Yes, I did. I also made clear that I support the idea of replacing and/or removing the karma system. What is wrong with that? ÂżI am not allowed to express my own opinion now?
As another user and I where jokingly attempting to get the don page to trend by commenting on it(as countless have done before with other articles), loli lashed out by stating it’s not allowed to trend, even though other deadpooled articles have trended.
Oh first off, deadpooled entries can't trend, we got rid of that long ago. Furthermore, making entries trend on purpose (by posting spam-ish comments like "trend trend trend" or "ITS TIME TO MAKE IT TREND") is an inconvenience for everyone so we try to stop users from doing that.
And for last, using the "if other people did it then we can do it too" excuse to do whatever the hell you want is moronic. In fact, that's the kind of behavior that got locked the cringeworthy gallery and the main problem with the users of this site.
And I only posted a screenshot of the deadpooled bar as a reply to your comment, I think you're taking it as "srs business" when the message is simple "It won't trend because it's deadpooled". Probably your disliking towards me is clouding your own judgement.
Natsuru Springfield
ModeratorSr. Forum Moderator & Karma Tycoon & Karma Philanthropist & Community Artist & Shrine Maiden
Oftentimes it feels like the comments section thinks it's invincible, indestructible, and just generally on the highest horse it has ever set it's ass on.
Every time an image mod like Loli comes around the fragile ego of the comment community gets popped, sending them into an uproar.
I'm genuinely surprised actually. I never expected the upvote crazy culture to completely dominate the comments section like that. I did see it start to develop last year, but oh what it had grown into.
People get upset when their stuff is moved because it's no longer in the more popular gallery. People get upset when their stuff is hidden because it's no longer in any gallery at all and will soon die (Hell, people even down-vote the shit out of pictures that exist outside of any dedicated gallery). They get upset when they are told their posts in a popular gallery is meaningless because why live if you can't have the gratification of upvotes.
You touch them with anything less than a five foot poll they will eat you. So guess what? I seriously respect Loli for sticking his neck out for the site and taking the hit. It's better to be a good mod and hated rather than a bad mod and loved. I'd easily take 5 more of him over 25 more of me.
I guess I was over reacting. I've overreacted before to things. It would probably be best if I deactivated my kym account. Best I go out like nixon rather than do something that will get me kicked out.
Cecaelia Girlie
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PatrickBateman96 wrote:
I guess I was over reacting. I've overreacted before to things. It would probably be best if I deactivated my kym account. Best I go out like nixon rather than do something that will get me kicked out.
Kinda think that would also be overreacting….
Seriously bro, I don't really think you did anything to warrant you getting kicked out and I don't think you will.
Cecaelia Girlie wrote:
Kinda think that would also be overreacting….
Seriously bro, I don't really think you did anything to warrant you getting kicked out and I don't think you will.
Oh this won't get me banned. Something else could though. Anyway if I decided to "Nixon" it I wouldn't do it until noon tomorrow. I'll probably change my mind by then.
Before this is locked, I do have a related question. Is the "Meta" rule sorta new? I may have missed it, but I don't recall reading it six months ago, and found my own Don meme moved as well. Just wondering
Ryumaru Borike wrote:
Before this is locked, I do have a related question. Is the "Meta" rule sorta new? I may have missed it, but I don't recall reading it six months ago, and found my own Don meme moved as well. Just wondering
I've only been here for eleven months and rarely post images. So you'll have to ask someone. Loli will definetely know. He/she probably knows everything about rules and rule accessories.
Precious Roy
ModeratorDeactivated
Ryumaru Borike wrote:
Before this is locked, I do have a related question. Is the "Meta" rule sorta new? I may have missed it, but I don't recall reading it six months ago, and found my own Don meme moved as well. Just wondering
Considering I have an image from a year ago that got moved out of its original gallery for being meta fairly quickly, I'd say it's been there for a while.
PatrickBateman96 wrote:
Oh this won't get me banned. Something else could though. Anyway if I decided to "Nixon" it I wouldn't do it until noon tomorrow. I'll probably change my mind by then.
I dunno how shit the moderation was on previous sites you used, but our mods don't actually ban people for sending in complaints. As long as the complaint is worded correctly and not just a state-of-the-moment whine, please share them.
As for the Meta-rule: Initially that rule was more set in place as an unwriten rule to avoid image uploads where people would share screencaps showing the daily image gallery views because [entry gallery] beating [other entry gallery] was totally global news.
In time we just expanded on it a bit and started moving images to the KYM gallery as that entry existed anyways.
I'm more mild with it usually than other mods, in which I look for the dominant topic in the piece of media. If KYM is more dominent, I will move it to the KYM entry. But for example images like this boardroom suggestion are perfectly fine to keep in the meme's gallery as KYM is a legit example of a joke with that meme like any other website or company.
Papa Coolface
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>mfw rulefags
Loli's "opinion" is about to become part of the site.
PatrickBateman96 wrote:
Loli's "opinion" is about to become part of the site.
Gonna go out on a limb here and say that Loli doesn't have the unilateral authority to modify the basic nature of the site, and was probably just fucking with you.
Lutien
ModeratorDeactivated
PatrickBateman96 wrote:
Loli's "opinion" is about to become part of the site.
uhhh
….
First off:
Loli is not an admin, let alone a webmaster – Only the webmaster (James) can add and remove features. Who ever said that his opinion is going to be part of the site?
Let's be honest here, the Mods could be a lot worse. They could give you a three day ban for making an on topic joke in a serious debate thread… like… some other mods I know… on another forum I go to… suppresses rage
clears throat Point is, I have yet to see anything truly outrage from the mods here like you would see elsewhere
Natsuru Springfield
ModeratorSr. Forum Moderator & Karma Tycoon & Karma Philanthropist & Community Artist & Shrine Maiden
There you go fretting over your precious up-votes again.
Not that I think people would miss comment karma after a month anyways. Loli isn't alone in wanting that gutted. It's done more harm than good.
(And really, you should be more worried about me than Loli when it comes to changes to the website.)
Natsuru Springfield wrote:
There you go fretting over your precious up-votes again.
Not that I think people would miss comment karma after a month anyways. Loli isn't alone in wanting that gutted. It's done more harm than good.
(And really, you should be more worried about me than Loli when it comes to changes to the website.)
I'm not fretting I was just pointing it out.
Ryumaru Borike wrote:
Let's be honest here, the Mods could be a lot worse. They could give you a three day ban for making an on topic joke in a serious debate thread… like… some other mods I know… on another forum I go to… suppresses rage
clears throat Point is, I have yet to see anything truly outrage from the mods here like you would see elsewhere
This is the first site where i've communicated with mods. I don't have accounts on other sites I frequent and I don't play online vidja games. That last part probably sounds really weird.
This thread was "I have a complain" and it became "loli was mean to me". Gonna be blunt with you and give my personal opinion on this, forget about my modship and forget that I'm a KYM user for a moment. Grow up a pair. Stop being so sensitive about everything. Here, let me give you a pro-tip: don't take everything I say seriously.
You put the mod team on a pedestal when we are nothing else but users, just like everyone else. Each one of us has their own way to do things, I have mine. Take RandomMan for example, he is okay with some things that I don't. Meta images being one of them.
Loli doesn’t have the unilateral authority to modify the basic nature of the site, and was probably just fucking with you.
True, but if all the main parts of the site come to an agreement you can make things change. Of course, this almost never happens.
Loli said:
Each one of us has their own way to do things, I have mine. Take RandomMan for example, he is okay with some things that I don’t.
That's a problem, though. Mods are supposed to enforce site rules. When you have them "doing their own thing" and not simply doing things uniformly in accordance with those rules, it's going to create a lot of confusion when some mods ban some things, others simply move them, while others do nothing.
Not to mention it creates certain perceptions and biases in users. "X banned what I did, but Y doesn't give a shit, therefore X is a shit mod/has a grudge against me." That sort of thing.