Ethan Klein vs Frogan Sabra Tier List Controversy depicting Klein's YouTube response video and an image of the TwitchCon event.

Ethan Klein vs. Frogan Sabra Tier List Controversy

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Overview

Ethan Klein vs. Frogan Sabra Tier List Controversy, also known as TwitchCon 2024 Sabra Antisemitism Controversy, refers to an online controversy that took place in late October 2024 after H3H3 Productions' Ethan Klein accused the streaming site Twitch of platforming antisemitism at TwitchCon 2024, which was held in San Diego in late September of that year. Klein used the example of a tier list created by streamers Frogan, Capri and Raff, the creators of the Ayyrabs podcast, where they ranked fellow streamers on the basis of who they believe should be allowed to use the word "habibi," a term of endearment in many Arabic countries. Klein criticized the use of the term "Sabra" used at the bottom of the tier list, which is defined as "a native-born Israeli" in addition to being the name of an Israeli-owned hummus brand, and accused the podcasters of arranging streamers on a scale that he believes is diminishing and insulting to Jewish people. The creators of the Ayyrabs podcast responded by asserting that the phrase "Loves Sabra" in their tier list was a reference to the Sabra brand of hummus, which they believe to be sub-par and therefore low on the list. Following Klein's criticisms, the controversy spread online and received media coverage, with some defending the Ayyrabs segment and others finding it problematic and accusing Twitch of sponsoring antisemitism on its platform. The incident was further fueled by the discovery that Twitch blocked new users in Israel from signing up on the platform for roughly a year following the October 7th attack on Israel by Hamas.

Background

Twitch streamers Frogan, Capri and Raff are part of a podcast called Ayyrabs [10] on which they discuss how their lives as a Jewish man, a Christian man and a Muslim woman intersect.

On September 21st, 2024, the three hosted an event at TwitchCon in San Diego where they ranked fellow streamers on the basis of who they believed should receive a pass to use the word "habibi," a term of endearment in Arabic that translates to "my love" or "beloved." They sorted various streamers into the categories "Arab," "Arab Coded," "Asks Perms [permission]," "Thinks it's a slur" and "Loves Sabra."[5]



On October 18th, 2024, Redditor /u/Perfect_bleu posted to the subreddit /r/LiveStreamFail,[1] sharing a clipped version of the aforementioned segment showing streamers Frogan, Capri and Raff sharing a tier list with the categories "Arab," "Arab Coded," "Asks perms," "Thinks It's A Slur" and "Loves Sabra." The Twitch description on the clip reads, "frogan rating streamers from arab to jew lower on a pane [sic]."

The Reddit post[1] was captioned, "Twitchcon sponsored antisemitism," and gathered over 17,000 upvotes in a day.


17.4k GivePLZ | Special Events Twitchcon sponsored antisemitism twitch.tv Submitted 1 day ago by Perfect_bleu ⚫ 4096 comments share save hide report hide all child comments A Failed to determine content classification X This clip is no longer available ✪ ↑ [} twitch

The clip was then removed from Twitch in a day, leaving the post with a broken embed. The relevant clip can be found via a YouTube repost by theo linden.[2]



Developments

Ethan Klein's Criticism and Video

On October 19th, 2024, Ethan Klein posted a video to his YouTube[3] channel reacting to the aforementioned clip in a video titled, "Twitch Has a Major Problem." After discussing Twitch's decision to let Sneako back on the platform, he moved onto the Ayyrabs tier list segment at TwitchCon roughly a month before.

He accused Twitch of platforming antisemitism by asserting that the phrase "Sabra" in the tier list was a reference to its literal meaning in Hebrew, "Jewish person born in Israel,"[11] in addition to "Sabra hummus," as presented by the Ayyrabs. The video gathered over 100,000 views in a day.



Frogan, Raff and Capri's Response

On October 19th, 2024, Raff made a post on his Twitter[4] / X account criticizing people for misrepresenting the purpose of the tier list, adding that he, a Jewish man, had come up with the idea for the list. The post, which notably included the /r/LiveStreamFail post as a screenshot, gathered over 2,000 likes in a day.


Raffoulticket @Raffoulticket These f---- are so anti semitic I'm the one who made the list on "who can say habibi" and they try and spin this as "Frogan ranking people from Arab to Jew” keep Jews out your f------ mouth. u/Perfect_bleu . 3 hr. ago witchcon sponsored antisemitism Give PLZ | Special Eve... ARAB ASKS PERMS IT'S A SLU twitch.tv ARAB ARAB GAFCOM SAMSUNG tu twitch CODED ASKS PERMS GATCOM SAMSUNG THINKS SASLU COM 10 Open itch con vePLZ ogan rating streamers from arab to jew lower on a pan pped by puppeys_monitor 2K 674 3 Share 2:42 AM Oct 19, 2024 156.2K Views

Also on October 19th, Frogan[5] posted a longer clip showing the context cut out of the /r/LiveStreamFail post, saying that "our tier list was 'who has habibi pass' which is a meme tier list we did with a variety of creators." Her post, which accused Ethan Klein of lying, received over 945,000 views, 9,700 likes and 410 replies in two days.


Also on October 19th, Capri[6] made a seemingly sarcastic post joking about how the term "Sabra" as used in their tier list was because he "wanted to remind the panel of the time [his] Fathers people massacred [his] Mothers people in 'Sabra' and 'Shatila,'" adding, "It has nothing to do with assss store bought hummus it has to do with this very real deeper meaning."


CapriSunnPapi @CapriSunnPapi We actually put "Loves Sabra" on the list because I wanted to remind the panel of the time my Fathers people massacred my Mothers people in "Sabra" and "Shatila." It has nothing to do with assss store bought hummus it has to do with this very real deeper meaning. 11:30 AM Oct 19, 2024 159.4K Views

Ethan Klein's Response

Ethan Klein appeared to take Capri's X / Twitter post at face value, reposting it on his Instagram stories on October 19th, 2024, and writing, "So I wasn't in the hummus category I was in the massacre category?" adding that he believes "these bozos can't keep their story straight."

On October 20th, Klein also posted an edit of the Ayyrabs tier list, adding the phrase "Jew born in Israel" after "Sabra" to double down on his assertion that the word "Sabra" as used in the tier list was a dog whistle for Jewish people and not just referring to the Sabra brand of hummus.[7]


h3h3productions 1h X Isn't this worse? So I wasn't in the Hummus category, I was in the massacre category? Also these bozos can't get their stories straight, they're all giving different excuses Log in Sign up CapriSunnPapi @CapriSunnPapi Follow We actually put "Loves Sabra" on the list because I wanted to remind the panel of the time my Fathers people massacred my Mothers people in "Sabra" and "Shatila." It has nothing to do with assss store bought hummus it has to do with this very real deeper meaning. 8:30 AM - Oct 19, 2024 14.6K Views 50 Reposts 5 Quotes 921 Likes h3h3productions 7h That's literally what sabra means, dumbass. What about your friends little joke about a "Zionist category"? Is Zionist a type of hummus, too? frogan @frogan Follow notice how you had to add 'Jews Born In Israel' to make it racist? because "likes s----- hummus" isn't racist, and maybe if you were less of an insane Zionist crashing out over fun tier lists I'd invite you over to try some real hummus LOVES SABRA (jews born in Israel) thinks "arab" is a slur asks perms ARAB CODED ARAB Let's flip it upside down shall we? Makes me uncomfy just posting it bc it's so obviously f----- up. But LOVES ABRA (jew born in Israel) 1:51 AM 10/20/24 2.5K Views 8 279 265 ☐ 4 ↑

Online Reactions

As the controversy spread online in late October 2024, various internet users made posts in support of Frogan and the Ayyrabs, while others posted in support of Ethan Klein.

For example, on October 19th, 2024, X[8] user @JakedChinatown shared a screenshot of Klein's YouTube video, showing how his comments are turned off, writing, "'They only turn off the comments when they know they’re wrong.' -Ethan Klein." The post gathered over 79,000 likes in two days.


Jake Chinatown @Jaked Chinatown Follow "They only turn off the comments when they know they're wrong." -Ethan Klein 2:26 Twitch Has a Major Problem 4,811 views 1h ago...mor Ethan Klein 348K 3.4K Comments Share Remix ↓Download Comments are turned off. Learn more 9:09 AM Oct 19, 2024 1.8M Views

Also on October 19th, X[12] user @skelluii posted a clip reacting to the controversy with the caption, "Ethan Klein thinks not liking Sabra hummus is antisemitic," receiving over 79,000 views, 2,300 likes and 40 replies in two days.


Other internet users criticized Frogan for, in their opinion, repeatedly inciting arguments online. An October 20th, 2024, post by X[9] user @iqkev quoted xQc as saying, "does this b*tch ever shut the f*ck up." It is unconfirmed if this is a real quote from the streamer. The post gathered over 8,000 likes in a day.


iqkev @iqkev "does this b*tch ever shut the f*ck up." xQc speaks on Frogan 9:41 PM Oct 20, 2024 128.3K Views

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External References

[1] Reddit – /r/LivestreamFail

[2] YouTube – theo linden

[3] YouTube – Ethan Klein

[4]  X – Raffoulticket

[5] X – fr0gan

[6] X – CapriSunnPapi

[7] Instagram – h3h3productions

[8] X – JakedChinatown

[9] X – iqkev

[10] X – AyyrabsPod

[11] Merriam-Webster – Sabra definition

[12] X – skelluii

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