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I'm going to get in trouble here, but seriously, a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama. A vote for Virgil A vote for Gary J Obama. A vote for Mitt Romney is a vote is a vote for Let the flaming B people h alright.1 want vate for spongebob.: 1 at 7:29pm 1 own my own truck. Diesel fuel hes more than doubled since Obama book office. He continues fuel prices than doubled. Evey thing you buy, a truck mas inwolved. From food, to any product, a tbuck brought it. Everything My ife hes gotten much morse under him. So much for helping the middle class. He seems to venchen, a· ' rou vote for what you beleve n. Romney s a sad exane to vote agamtabana. Don't it because 1 said ths I will. I beleve in smallbusiness, and small govennment, and free speedh. I veil vote for such. t cannot afford even 1 more year of Obama let slone 4. but theni bought my own phone maling 35 to 49% under O in 2013 wll be paying 1900+ more in fh5Bhrhetrg idon't need that knd ofheb, that's the much for beng-th he 99% vg tax return for heard about this on the news last night, Nancy. They ane going to bleed me dry. My taces have gone up here. Bobby and I dd the math and after bills and groceries and meds and they will taike what little we had left aver peraphreenge re from Dend Lettermen dmg prevous election: 'Okay, then who does vote the markists that who t hate to be contentious (Ah, who am kdding? I love being contentiousl), but if you think Derck Obams has he same phlasophy as Karl Marx, then you've got a very skewed ides of the belefs of at least one of the two, if not both aready thyrod dseese won't get care utd ther are neerty deed, "d "cere" they get nil berely keep the Detent actualy read Marx idont need my president to apologize October 2 at 4:00pm-e Wel 1 haven't reed anything writen by Obama I have resd "The Communist Manifesto then, you said autoblography', so there must be something in their lives that parallels, right? So let me see. he University of Bonn and the University of Berlin, where he apparently focused on philosophy. He spent most of his ife ritding editorials for that as recent revolutions had seen common pesple over throm the royaity, so in the future there mould be a revolution in which te working class would overthrow the rich capitaists and the state ould be ruled by the aboring Clasis. This form of socialiam would, he believed, inevitably lead to communism, hich would be a society te that so-called Communist" Russia was not practicing Mancism,but ofsah, br Stain·ard for Start Obens was borm toerndde-dess American colege student endre lower-dess Afmoan Luohubernd(hrte w an educational scholarshp from the Kenyen government) His parents dvorced shorfy after he was born, as his mother thought it would be best for her son fshe dropped out of school and moved back to the continent. Darack Sr. stayed n Hawa-to frish his degree, then after receng another schoership to ttend reverd, he attored moved to Jakarta, where Obama studled two years at a Catholic school followed by two years at s public school. At age 10, Obane retumed to Hawal, where he managed to get a scholarship to a local college-prep school. Obama studed political science at Occidental College and Colunbia University. After gradusting, Obama worked for a number of years at various jobs, most notably as a cornity organizer headng projects for traning mere given bipar t and also gave upport to many of the Republican Governor's econonic regulations. Then spending three years in the US. Senate, Obama sponsoned a number of bills that received decent bioartisan support,indluding abill to promobe transparency ngoverment gedrg which was co-pars red bY felow Senator )hn MeCar·Obwna's peron-phico phy seens to foous on government worling to treet the less fortunae in our society with fairmess, grenting everyore Yop, I could have saved time by just copying the first paragraph over again,couldn't 1 gh... you haven't read his auto and yet you're poing to then. Marx focused on would verbalize it that way. However, O went to coidental college, in his own bio says that he spent most of the rers stoned ether with white kids i·ther dorm or in te vans of black kids, yet, somehov" he managed to get to ountu where he handy showed up for dasses and ddn't even shov·upfor gradatonths according to a post-grad, ihave access to get copies of any and all thesis and dissertations but somehow his deenteven show up n the istrp. en, but then, srce you ddn't read his own writngs you must know more tan me, and the menifesto isnt the only witings of marx but then again since you read thet and know marx you aiready know that ight government working to treat the less society with faimess, granting everyone Accet18 fot the same as "care and I am aready seerg how that affects peole who my medeal cardto hort, you'd have to be half dead to even QALFY for medical "cre."Call it 'care" if you mant, but it's not Anticperg Obarecere, endos are now saying you aren't reely Sck umt. your Tg1嗜10. Alotofus would have OTED before we got to 10, but thefs how socialism morks- weed out the weak and sdk Cindy granting affordable medical care to everyone...'while fording ie mandating business owners not medical care. Brucker Well, Nancy,I certainly haven't read any of those things about Obama's college days, and they are try nterestig, but I st. don't see how they support your poston. Do you also have some writngs that ndcate that Marx spent most of his college time smoking in the vans of black ids? Well, that's unfair, since In guesing nid- 19th century Gemany didn't have a lot of vars or black kids, so let's say he mas perhaps smoking opiun in badk anyting to You're right that TOM is the only work of Marx hat Ive read, but Td really like to know which of his other work took such ats above, his theores on sooksm beng gateway r to true corrmnsm were besed on te idee that he stste would bered by t e laborng dees", whichisthe exact "opposte" of "gov't controlng the resses's you prt. Once sgain fl note thet you may have made the mistake of equating Maxism with Stalinism, but if you have an unbissed Marx's own words) theit shows Look, all of this information-as well as your statement above about tax rates in 2013-probably makes a pretty good basis for an angument against vating for Obama. Most everyone knows that Obama s pro-gay manrage and pro-abortion, and that makes an even bigger difference to a lot of people. But seriously, when you call him a Marxist, your credibility goes out the window. If I said that you shouldn't vote for Romney beca.se he only cares Pat sre Ronney is a Morman he's gong totutlaw alcohol, coffee, and tobacce, and 많 en hel nice the Book of Mormon required reading in all schools both public and private, and THEN he1 moe the capitol Fom Washington to Salt Lake City you'd knovthat was carpwwS №t orly am I pretty Rure Pat Romey has no plans to do such fhingn, but even ifhe did, he wouch't get ewey with them because Congress and the Supreme Court would throw What I'm really trying to say here is that I'm sure you can find enough "egitimate reasons to vote Obama out that you dont need to make up a bunch of arap. Wctoria hes suggested above that the Obama administration has made te nston's healthcare system "ud, worse; if was abie to get asity care before Obanses office, tets understandable hat she would dalike Obanmacare. Personaly, Ive never been able to get quality health care, and neither have a lot of people I know, and for such people, Just about any change at lesst "seems" better) Cindy brought up aborton izaues. Tracy talked about the effect Obama's polcdes have had on small businesses. And "l of you have talked about tax increazes. Why s it that so many people who disike Obama-and have real reasons to do so -feel the need to pretend that he's a Marxist (when he ian't even a "socialistT, a Muslim when they suggest that one should fear hin because of the arary pastor of the "dhurch he attended), or radst against white people Myorgral poat here was 3atょjoke, but I'm sorry, e resporse I got was nchfirmer . For those who contrue to promote this hogwash rather than depending on the fects, say, Have you no sese of decency, At long lest, heve you left no sense of t good medical care because I educate myself and know what to ask for. If a doctor wont help me, wel, it's time for a new docI cat sel you hom many didn't diagnose my thyroid disease because the standand tests show very lete. When 1 Snally started taiking to real patents, I knew what to ask for and oh ny problem ith Obamacare hat belongng to . health pin wd reduce my doce fdoctors, and wth the new meds. And don't even get my started bpoor ex-fiend w hos getting sch good trestet tat ghe never-es poertve tng to sev ebout ife, before she unfriended me all I sew were posts about how hormble he Republicans are. I don't think 1EVER sam a happy post from her sbout some thing good contnues to offer heslth assiatance, stay with my current doc and pay whatever I have to for the doc and victoria.· and I agree with Nancy tat Obenes "ocsist N tre heath care 55oosism, Cal it what you mant, but that's what it is? Whatever happened to personal responsblity? And yes, the Bush ers tax outs are poing to expire at the end of this year, so I willhave more taxes to pay, plus heathy care, thait I get fined if I daon't buy. So yes, as a middle dass person, my taxes are going up and up. Should I praise obama that I was able to buy a house during his presidency because my dad dedded to de last year? Or Aa for his fath, Obama doean't beleve in anything. He only cares about hinself and his power. I have heard al about the "churdh he used to attend and what Black Liberason Theology entails. The podcatI listen to covered ha r, depth and 답 gay read excerpts from his pastor's book. It was rea, scary suff. And In perfectdy willing to accept all of what you said in those last two comments as ressonable- h the exception of the bwo sentences about socialism. First, Nancy never said that Obama was a "socialist" a "Marxist. One of the inportant points Im rying to make here, perhaps realy m dfferent things, and Thone of them are labels that properly apply to Obama, no matter how many Smes his secardy, whde natonal health car. may be bad poky, it導"not" soalan. Dicsonary.com defines sooalsm as "a fheory or systen of social organizeion whole." Other detonerege mier would prefer such δ verson people would prefer to keep privatized. Thats a legitinate grievance Obamacare does not take the ownership or employment of a single heslth professional, nor does it take over the operation of any hospitals, pharmacies, or other medical facltes. Arguably it does involve some level of control existence of the anned forces sodalia, as well as the police, fire department, public and private sdhools, the department of motor vehicles, road maintenance rews, public parks, and mass tranait. Now, if you mant to, you you probably should be voting for Ron Pau WAS poing to be to ||rucker Realy? I ween't醂ere ofthet, and t can't fr dery rform ton snortngt. Do you h ve some?

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