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Polygon's Bayonetta 2 Review is Fine OCTOBER 16, 2014 GAMERGATE, GENERAL MUSINGS, INDUSTRY MUSINGS 13 COMMENTS So, in between the Brianna wu media tour and theemergenceof #StopGamerGate2014. #GamerGate for the first time in weeks actually attempted to bring up something that was almost something something kinda like Journalistic Ethics. As you may know #Gamergate declares that journalistic ethics and integrity is what this is all really about (although that's built on a total sham, is and alleraic to . But hey, maybe they got it better this time! 0/10 EDGE 10/10-GAMESPOT 10/10-DESTRUCTOID 5/5 JOYSTIQ 9/10-VIDEOGAM 9.5/10 IGN 9/10 GAME INFORMER 7.5/10-POLYGON 9/10 EUR ER THE CRITICS HAVE SPOKEN Oh dear Operation Bayonetta 2 club. nintendo If you buy Bayo 2 for Wii U, do the Club Nintendo survey and explicitly state that you were unhappy with how Polygon chose to represent the game. Polygon chose to focus on sexualizing Bayo 2 over the actual gameplay and gave it a lower score because of that. Cut Polygon out of Nintendo Press Material. For f---'s sake, do you know how ethics work? How about a blog post: saying something like Bayonetta 2 could have been a fantastic game but it's need to provide fanservise holds itself and it's audience back because then you are attacking your readership indirectly, youre implying that there is something wrong with them for enjoying/purchasing a game like this since it offends your moral compass...don't do that Christ. Okay, let's just get a few things clear: 1)It's not an ethics problem. There are probably a million op-eds, reviews, and blogs printed daily that you disagree with. Reviews are, at their core, opinions. It's not unethical, it's what makes you a unique and beautiful snowflake. And it's definitely not corruption. It's just a media outlet with a different point of view. Lord knows, I hate Fox News, but Id never say they have no right to exist for having people with different opinions. Judging from the reviews, there are at least 10 major games sites who represent the standard sex and violence is awesome! viewpoint, so lets just call that point of view covered 2) I'm amused at how it's like the opposite of collusion. Remember that word? Remember how Ben Kuchera and Polygon were evil for forcing everyone to print the same story (allegedly -this is also b-------) Now, some people are mad at them for being the only ones who didn't freely fellate PlatinumGames with their review. In fact, theyve got a lot of integrity for going against the grain and saying what they believe. 3) He's probably not talking to you. If you're in #Gamergate, there's a good chance you're not in Polygon's target audience, because Polygon believes in talking about social and progressive issues in video games, and most of #gamergate doesn't seem to give a rats ass about that. Which is fine! But heres the thing-the goal of a review is not whether or not the reviewer is representing the opinions of anyone on reddit. The goal of a review is to represent the concerns of their audience. you review Atlas Shrugged, you're going to write a very different review if you review it for Daily Kos vs. whether you review it for Breitbart. Polygon has a slant on how they report games-that more cultural/progressive angle and they have an audience. That audience appears to be one of the fastest growing audiences in the games press right now, and appears to still be perfectly health despite gameraate. Whether or not this review bugs THOSE readers, Idon't know. But THOSE are the people who Polygon is trying to satisfy with their reviews 4) Talking about whether or not the sexuality is 'over the line' is pretty crucial to ANY review of Bayonetta 2. There are a lot of people who like sex in their games, and there are a lot of people who don't. There are also a lot of people who like it up to a point-Soul Caliber is fine, but Dragons' Crown is not. Ifound Takis outfit awesome in Soul Caliber 2, and awful in Soul Caliber 4. An open and frank discussion about how far the game goes is in fact CRUCIAL to a customer makinga purchasing decision. And if Polygon's audience cares about that, it definitely merits discussion and factoring into the score. 5) Bayonetta 2's overall coverage is fine. Their Metacritic is still a sterling 91. I mean, that's awesomely good. Oh, and by the way,getting a review that says this game is pretty awesome but the sex might be TOO F------ MUCH FOR YOU is actually going to sell a few copies. In fact, that's exactly the sort of line that PlatinumGames' marketing is HOPING will hit the press, because that sort of controversy sells games. Seriously, do you think Dragon's Crown would have gotten more than cursory coverage and sales if it wasn't for the Sorceress character Boobs McTits? 6) Suggesting that Nintendo blacklist or give less preferential treatment to sites that give them critical review IS an ethics problem. Imean, seriously, this is exactly the sort of stuff that people like me say #Gamergate SHOULD be investigating as insidious ways that the AAA publishers completely blanket the press with feverishly positively deceptive press, and instead you're suggesting it as a solution? Seriously? SERIOUSLY? The fact that anyone suggests this shows they are utterly non-serious about the issue of ethics in reviews. So yeah. This little scandal pretty much establishes further that #Gamergate has not a clue about what journalistic integrity actually means, and that at the end of the day, the movement is about silencing opinions that happens to differ from theirs. I continue to find this one of the And I say this as someone who may buy a Wii U solely for this game, because God Damn do I love me some Bayonetta

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Gamergate (harassment campaign) Article Talk From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia For other uses, see Gamergate (disambiguation). Gamergate or GamerGate (GG)[¹] was a loosely organized misogynistic online harassment campaign and a right-wing backlash against feminism, diversity, and progressivism in video game culture. [2][³] It was conducted using the hashtag "#Gamergate" primarily in 2014 and 2015.[1][4][5][6] Beginning in August 2014, Gamergate targeted women in the video game industry, most notably feminist media critic Anita Sarkeesian and video game developers Zoë Quinn and Brianna Wu, among others.[7][8][9][10][11] The harassment campaign included doxing, r--- threats, and death threats.[12][13][14] Gamergate proponents ("Gamergaters") stated that they were a social movement, but lacked well-defined goals, a coherent message, and leaders, making Gamergate difficult to define.[15][16][17] Gamergaters claimed to promote ethics in video games journalism, claimed to be protecting the "gamer" identity, and opposed what they asserted as "political correctness" in video games.[18][19][20][21][22] Read Date Target Gamergate, online harassment campaign in 2014-15 that targeted women in the video game industry. The attacks were attributed largely to white male right-wing gamers who railed against the rise and influence of women and feminism in the industry. Gamergate served as a recruiting tool for the growing alt-right movement and helped spur the online “Pizzagate" conspiracy theory, which soon spawned the wider QAnon conspiracy movement. …………………………....…..……….…..... Attack type Victims Motive View source Inquiry XA 28 languages ✓ Perpetrators Internet trolls, particularly from 4chan, Internet Relay Chat, and 8chan View history Tools ✓ Gamergate August 2014 - 2015 Women in the video game industry See all media Online harassment campaign Zoë Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu, and others Gamergaters created conspiracy theories falsely accusing Quinn of an unethical relationship with video game journalist Nathan Grayson.[23][24][25] More broadly, they alleged unethical collusion between the press and feminists, progressives, and social critics.[17][26] [27] These claims were widely dismissed as trivial, conspiracy theories, baseless, or unrelated to actual issues of ethics in gaming and journalism.[28] [29][30] Gamergate supporters frequently denied that the harassment took place, falsely claiming it to be manufactured by the victims.[31][32] Misogyny anti-feminism anti- progressivism FBI investigation Gamergate has been described as a culture war over cultural diversification, artistic recognition, feminism in video games, social criticism in video games, and the social identity of gamers.[28][33] [34] [35] Many supporters of Gamergate opposed the increasing influence of feminism and so-called "social justice warriors" on video game culture. [2][36] Gamergate led figures both inside and outside the gaming industry to focus on methods of addressing online harassment, ways to minimize harm, and prevent similar events. [37] [38] [39] [40] Gamergate has been viewed as a contributor to the alt-right and other right- wing movements.[21][41] Video game developer Brianna Wu
Jalen Hutchinson Studied Culinary Science at Culinary Institute of America (Graduated 2014). Author has 304 answers and 740.1K answer views. 5y Not that I care that much either way, but it did expose a lot of corrupt game developers and game journalists. X Journalists would make claims of people like Anita Sarkeesian "playing video games all her life" when she openly admitted many times she is not a gamer and only starter recently (when it wasn't for an interview). Various developers trading sex or money for good reviews got exposed, journalists who accepted got exposed. People became a bit more critical about supporting a game just because the developer has a victim complex stating tat their game could have only failed because of sexism, instead of their own poor developing skills. What really sealed the deal was opposition often faking their own harassment. Anita sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn have been caught multiple times screenshotting "harassment" while showing that the harrasser's account name in the login. Or when someone called the police to help Sarkeesian against a "very real threat" she was posting about, only for police to find the harasser's messages were coming from her IP address. I just want honesty from the community, and the lies were mostly exposed by the "dreaded" gamergate. 1.3K views • View upvotes 26
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"If you're in #Gamergate, there's a good chance you're not in Polygon's target audience …" yeah no need to elaborate on that, but yeah what kind game journalist judges games on the "cultural/political" angles except thinly veiled SJWs disguised as "journalists" I guess. It makes about as much sense as me giving the Tropico games 2/10 because it has actual oppression (the cold war era banana republic kind) and goes against my political beliefs rather than the gameplay itself.

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