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Drama wave after r/The_Donald user posts picture of himself bragging about trying to get a classmate deported

Last posted Feb 05, 2018 at 11:29AM EST. Added Jan 30, 2018 at 12:23AM EST
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1. Absolute madman posts picture of himself on r/The_Donald bragging that he reported his classmate to immigration enforcement

2. News of this spreads to metareddit communities including r/subredditdrama and r/drama which comments, respectfully, "imagine being this retarded"

3. people find his facebook account and start screencapping his comments. Apparently he spent a lot of his time on reddit arguing that he should be allowed to use the n-word and having fantasies of torturing immigrants

4. he deletes his reddit account

5. [not yet verified] his alt account is discovered and it's filled with even more crackalackin comments than his main account (see article linked above)

Situation is still unfolding, could be a potential meme

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Do people in America get rewarded for doing their civic duty? Don't get me wrong, reporting illegals must feel amazing, however some formal recognition would feel nice.

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Particle Mare wrote:

Kid got expelled

If his transgressions ended at "reported someone to ICE and liked Trump", I'd be willing to defend him. It does feel like a bridge too far to expel the kid, at least with what we know.
I'll take babe's word for his more undesirable statements despite never hearing of them before, because I'm lazy.

Edit: also, since when can high schools expel you for what you say and do online?

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Spaghetto wrote:

If his transgressions ended at "reported someone to ICE and liked Trump", I'd be willing to defend him. It does feel like a bridge too far to expel the kid, at least with what we know.
I'll take babe's word for his more undesirable statements despite never hearing of them before, because I'm lazy.

Edit: also, since when can high schools expel you for what you say and do online?

It's a contentious issue. I imagine the principal's rationale would be that calling (or threatening, or pretending to call) law enforcement on another student constituted an unacceptable disruption to the school. Also, the kid's new reputation probably would've spread like wildfire and become a danger to himself as well, so chances are the principal negotiated with his parents to have him moved elsewhere.

edit: fixed link

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Won't the school get into trouble for admitting illegals? Surely you'd need at least some documentation to get admitted, so they'd know when a kid is an illegal alien?

Also I'm wondering whether the illegal kid will at least get deported with his/her family. The American hero can then safely type "worth" in all chat.

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FREDDURST wrote:

Won't the school get into trouble for admitting illegals? Surely you'd need at least some documentation to get admitted, so they'd know when a kid is an illegal alien?

Also I'm wondering whether the illegal kid will at least get deported with his/her family. The American hero can then safely type "worth" in all chat.

Plyer vs Doe made it obligatory for undocumented children to receive education, and also made it illegal for schools to inquire about or discriminate on the basis of immigration status.

Also I feel the need to add a word of caution about him getting expelled: babe.net is the site that broke the Aziz Ansari story and it seems like a lot of people aren't willing to accept it as a credible source. What they have reported about the kid's reddit activity (posts, account deletion, etc.) so far has been accurate, but I would wait for further verification before taking as fact that he's been expelled.

>Looks like the weird kid who openly claims the holocaust didn't happen or jokes about the African slave trade during History
>Smoke Pipe that he just owns to have one
>Wearing a wrist watch the wrong way
>OK hand signal
>MAGA hat
>Trying to look smug but fails miserably
>Unironically owns a Poster of Donald that looks like a Painting.

So how much are you gonna bet that he's gonna try to claim that all of this was a joke?

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Particle Mare said:

It’s a contentious issue.

Not really. And that case was over actual speech in the school, not stuff the guy did in private. If he was actually expelled over either the reporting of someone to the feds or over racial comments made online, he's got a rock solid first amendment case.

xTSGx wrote:

Particle Mare said:

It’s a contentious issue.

Not really. And that case was over actual speech in the school, not stuff the guy did in private. If he was actually expelled over either the reporting of someone to the feds or over racial comments made online, he's got a rock solid first amendment case.

The article I linked (fixed the link) talks about Tinker vs Des Moines. The Supreme Court has never dealt with an off-campus speech case and it does not automatically follow that a ruling on on-campus speech supersedes this. There have been state courts that have ruled in favor of school suspensions based on off-campus speech. Furthermore, Tinker vs Des Moines specifically mentions "interference with school discipline or the rights of others" as unacceptable speech; as several federal court rulings have established, undocumented children have the right to an education under the 14th Amendment, and I reckon the school has a strong case here that trying to get a classmate deported constitutes both a violation of their rights and an unacceptable disruption to the school's learning environment.

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I'm not sure how to feel about the whole expulsion thing.

One on hand, the kids a piece of shit, so it's hard to feel sorry for him.

On the other hand. I've always been against schools punishing students for things they did off school grounds, as I feel it gives the school too much power over the private lives of students when the only thing they need to be concerned about is education and student safety (physical and mental) on school grounds.

On another hand, the rise of cyberbullying has made me consider an exception for when students are targeting other students to the point their mere presence causes distress, like here. You also don't know how the two are interacting within school grounds after this, making a good case for disruption, like Particle said.

Anyway, if the kid really did get expelled, we may see this blow up when the MSM catch wind of this. Punishment for off-school doings, blatant racism, immigration debate, "internet hate machine", legal ambiguity, Trump, it's a perfect storm.

Chewybunny wrote:

what is it with the modern youth constantly undermining any legitimacy their political views have?

Teenagers aren't smart enough, experienced enough or mature enough to form a respectable world view, and are the most likely to latch onto a political movement without fully understanding it for the sake of obtaining an identity and a sense of belonging, becoming verbal in order to gain respect and acceptance among their political "peers" but only succeeding in making them, and the movment, look stupid, because they are a stupid teenager who thinks they have the entire world figured out at age 15 and everything in the world would be fixed if they just listened to them and can't fathom the idea that they may be wrong.

Most of what I said doesn't fully wear off until on is in there mid to late 20s. After all, it takes years of living in the real world to gain the worldly experience to know what you're talking about. Hell, there are still aspects of it I'm woefully ignorant about. One doesn't stop being a dumb youth just because you turned 18, it takes a while for it to wear off.

I know it's pretty early but any word about the parents obviously he is old enough to know better but this seems to go beyond simply being a edgelord and shit. I don't think 99% of edgelords would actually do something like this but maybe he is that 1%

http://www.wcjb.com/content/news/Alachua-County-Schools-responds-to-rumors-about-online-postings-by-GHS-student-472039553.html

https://www.wuft.org/news/2018/01/31/gainesville-high-school-student-no-longer-enrolled-after-offensive-social-media-posts/

From the wonderful comment section, if the above sources are correct, it would seem that Cory was not expelled but transferred or dropped out, making the whole "Expelling someone for shit they did online/following the law/being racist" arguments moot.

FREDDURST wrote:

Won't the school get into trouble for admitting illegals? Surely you'd need at least some documentation to get admitted, so they'd know when a kid is an illegal alien?

Also I'm wondering whether the illegal kid will at least get deported with his/her family. The American hero can then safely type "worth" in all chat.

You know.
Some of us have legitimate and well thought out reasons as to why we should be critical of the current immigration problem in the US. Whenever we try to voice those views people like you have to say something so vehemently obnoxious that undermines and delegitimizes those arguments.

Kind of like this meme:

So, stop it.

Wew, didn't expect you of all people to post something this ridiculous.

"I'm so unconfident in my own convictions that my """legitimate and well thought out reasons""" are easily ""delegitimized"" by someone with different political believes saying something on the same topic".

"Even though I'm that unconfident in my own believes, my opinion is so much more important than yours, so shut up"

Also this meme is beyond retarded, no proud Nazi would consider a libertarian his brother. You know how it goes, "Libertarians get the bullet too" :)

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>“I’m so unconfident in my own convictions that my """legitimate and well thought out reasons""" are easily ""delegitimized"" by someone with different political believes saying something on the same topic".

I am confident in my convictions. If only convictions alone were enough to get people to view a particular position.

Optics is one of the major elements when people look towards a particular solution or ideology. Anyone who is remotely involved in politics would understand the importance of image when delivering a solution.

Most people would not take a hippy in tie-dye tshirts and dreadlocks making an argument for legalization of marijuana with any remote seriousness. However, someone who represents and looks like the common joe, or the average middle class working man (i.e the image of self) delivering the same damn arguments would be taken far more seriously.

You can see this working constantly in various political movements.

Similarly, someone with a swastika on the forehead trying to tell the normies out there why immigration is bad is probably not going to convince many people.

>“Even though I’m that unconfident in my own believes, my opinion is so much more important than yours, so shut up”

The value of my opinion should be determined by it's accuracy. And given our conversations in the past, I have no doubt that the value of my opinion is way higher than the value of yours. (This thread alone makes that evident).

>Also this meme is beyond retarded, no proud Nazi would consider a libertarian his brother. You know how it goes, “Libertarians get the bullet too” :)

Totally missed the point didn't you?

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The value of my opinion should be determined by it’s accuracy. And given our conversations in the past, I have no doubt that the value of my opinion is way higher than the value of yours.

Aren't you the one missing the point here? I wrote that you believe that your opinion is more important, so that's why I should shut up. You double down saying that, indeed, in your opinion, your opinion is more important than mine, and that's why I should shut up.

And if you're concerned about optics when delivering your """legitimate and well thought out reasons""", just make sure not to have a swastika on your forehead.

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edit: okay, so on further examination, it seems like Babe interpreted "no longer attending" as expulsion, and it's more likely he withdrew voluntarily.

Didn't see Ryumaru's post before making this one.


@メムチキ・メモシキ

I recommend improving your nazi optics by ditching that weeb avatar.

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> I wrote that you believe that your opinion is more important, so that’s why I should shut up.

It's your attitude and how you make your arguments that you ought to shut up about. At least try to articulate your view without sounding like a spiteful autistic asshole, and maybe people will actually pay attention.

>You double down saying that, indeed, in your opinion, your opinion is more important than mine, and that’s why I should shut up.

My opinion's value is determined by it's accuracy and delivery (I forgot to add that part before). Just like anyone else's. The problem is, we often have similar concerns, and when a serious topic, like immigration, for example is being discussed, it's damn hard to make my opposing view be received with any seriousness when a spiteful, angry little troll is standing next to me shouting something similar.

I am well aware that enforcing immigration laws can and do cause problems for illegal immigrant families, especially with the added complexity of chain-migration and citizenship by birth. It is tragic, but necessary for the enforcement of law. Taking glee in seeing families broken up because of law makes you a sadistic tyrant.

>Do people in America get rewarded for doing their civic duty? Don’t get me wrong, reporting illegals must feel amazing, however some formal recognition would feel nice.

This is why such a comment has 18 downvotes, myself included, despite believing that there should be stricter enforcement of immigration law, and that illegal aliens need to be dealt with.

Well like you said, I got 23 downvotes, so people paid attention regardless, right? In fact, more attention than to any other post in this thread. Not like that was my intention but still.

Don't waste your time writing some enormous answer like usual, just downvote and move forward.

Actually, really a lot has changed for me over the last week. I will likely stop posting about politics altogether. So you'll be free to deliver your """legitimate and well thought out reasons""" without spiteful, angry little trolls standing next to you. Yes, this feels like the right time.

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>Well like you said, I got 23 downvotes, so people paid attention regardless, right?

I'm not sure if your trying to make a pitiful attempt at self-deprecating humor, or if you really believe this.

>So you’ll be free to deliver your """legitimate and well thought out reasons""" without spiteful, angry little trolls standing next to you.

Awesome!

>Yes, this feels like the right time.

What gave that away?

Particle Mare wrote:

Gentlemen, please take your lovefest to each other's walls lest this thread derail any further.

Excuse me. I identify as polisexual, I get my kinks out of online political forums.

(i'll stop)

He will now be forever known as that guy.
How can you fuck your life up for the lulz? (if this is actually real and he didn't make it up WHICH would make this even sadder)

Karma is a bitch, ain't she? (do not confuse with chinse fad)

Derptastic Derp Man wrote:

>Looks like the weird kid who openly claims the holocaust didn't happen or jokes about the African slave trade during History
>Smoke Pipe that he just owns to have one
>Wearing a wrist watch the wrong way
>OK hand signal
>MAGA hat
>Trying to look smug but fails miserably
>Unironically owns a Poster of Donald that looks like a Painting.

So how much are you gonna bet that he's gonna try to claim that all of this was a joke?

Considering the context, I think the OK sign is meant to reference the interpretation that the sign means "white power"

On another note:
Someone brought up he was doing his "civic duty". True or not, I'm pretty sure that he wasn't meaning to do so. He just did it to be an asshole.

Skeletor-sm

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