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Yay, I"m back, and is Pinkie still breaking the 4th wall, and I see someone was using Fluttershy in a box again. I do love me some Fluttershy in the box.

To anyone in the SynchTube party from before, I made a new room because the last one glitched out. Here's the new room!

Confound you Citation with your thread murdering synchtubes!

jk

I'll be on later, I need to do my science fair project that I've had 3 months to do first.

Take my random

that party slowed the thread down ALOT

Damn you people. I got up in the morning and had to read pages 72 to 79. You gave my sanity a workout with all of that!

I'm with Citation here: I think I lost IQ. My brain is already trying to delete all the posts I remembered between those pages.

Also there goes my discussion. Damn. I was going to into more detail about how to handle the situation of having a Pony in your backyard, if the pony did not speak your language and couldn't understand English. That would be a whole new ball game…but the topic has long since moved on.

I barely know what to add but going back to newfag discussion:

@x-singlular

You were never a newfag, you jumped in here as full grown regular.

@Everyone

What about me, was I ever a newfag?

Also on the subject of how the users here venture into the rest of the forum. Really, those who only post in this thread are missing out.

The JFF forum is a ton of fun. I love posting there. Join some forum games, try it!

Nobody there (Except Thomas Nair) is going to call you out and downvote you for being a Brony. Just don't post ponies or use "everypony" in sentence and you will be fine.

The people there have a little bit of tolerance for ponies so long as you don't push it. Otherwise have fun there, that's what it is for

I don't post in the Meme Research forum often but I do lurk it and look for opportunities where I can help. This is Know-Your-Meme after all and we should all try helping out every now and then, doing so will get you respect here.

NIGHT ALL!!!

Guess I'll stop by the Synchtube in a minute.

Ashbot pointed out to me that in 5 months of thread posting I will have posted over 3000 times. (Average 20 posts/day.)

Anypony else care to share their posting stats?

@BSoD

I missed that discussion and want it to start up again too.

So, if I found a pony in my back yard… (I'm going to assume that they do speak English and would know enough of who they were and that they aren't where they used to be.)

I would stand flabbergasted for awhile at the window. Then I would go to my front yard and call the pony's name (if it were a familiar pony, if not I would say "my little pony" since they appear to respond to that, even in the show). Then if they didn't run off (I hope they wouldn't) I would invite them in. I'd treat them as any normal guest. "Do you want something to eat?" "Please have a seat." Something like that. I'd ask them how much they remembered. After formalities and arrangements were made of where they would stay (with me, hopefully) we'd figure out what to do.

My first instinct would be to ask about Equestria and its history, anything interesting.
As for returning the pony: if it was a unicorn it might have used a universe jumping spell and could get back. For the other two types, I would say to go find Lauren Faust and have her figure something out. She did create them after all.

If they could return I would ask if I could come and become a bad OC pony in Equestria and crap.
If they couldn't I would go with what most others posted; don't let scientists get them, ask them if they want to live with you, yada yada yada.

TL;DR

So in summary:
My pony, talk to Ms. Faust, be pony or keep pony, the usually stuff.

Too much text, not enough propaganda…

Who is USA in sync tube?

I COULD LOOK AT THIS ALL DAY!!!!!!!1

It was RF and/or TK

Apparently I was banned from the synctube room…

What?

Actually not what. We've been trolled obviously. First RF and TK start spamming the chat and invite all their alt-account buddies. Then the synctube spontaneously shuts down and everyone is gone.

I refresh the page and come back only to find Bob, Algernon and Citation. After giving Citation the leader role, I'm banned. Now I don't think Citation banned me (why would he?) so around that point someone hijacked the Synctube yet again and finished it off.

The damn troll was posing as Citation

Damn it, I missed the synchtube. Other than that, the thread seems to have progressed several pages without anything actually happening. The thread seems to be returning to normal, and while some may appreciate this, I'm slightly more wary, because I have a ton of other stuff going on right now, and it's hard to keep up.

Even if (especially if) it's extended debates about ponies using cocaine.

@Connor: That's a very interesting narrative. I thought it was interesting that it occurred to you to talk to Faust – that's not something I think anyone else had proposed. The notion that she created the ponies, and therefore may have some knowledge about how they got into our world, is a very interesting concept. Personally, I think that if she does know something (which, in my opinion, she wouldn't), we'd have to see how her artistic creations affect Equestrian reality, and if she can "bridge the gap."

My posting average is about 9.3 per day.

INB4 Verbose: Please include me in future synchtube PMs.

I've got to say that we were trolled, and I can only applaud.

I'm not sure if I should be impressed with simply logging in as CitationNeeded or disappointed in myself not noticing that he wasn't the registered in bold CitationNeeded. In either case, I got a smile out of it.

But like I've said before, maybe this is something that needs to be sent via PM from now on. If you're interested, say so on the thread, and people in the Tube can message the link.

And we can still go there, BSoD. We bring up the R34 topic again and again. Why not this more tame topic?

I was going to into more detail about how to handle the situation of having a Pony in your backyard, if the pony did not speak your language and couldn’t understand English. That would be a whole new ball game…

On first thought, I'd have to set some assumptions to go on. I assume that they are still intelligent beings like humans but simply speak a different language that no human could understand. I'd figure that you'd have to convince the pony that you are a peaceful being that they could trust. Salt-licks? Sugar cubes? Hay?

Alternatively, you could pull out a laptop and show them some FiM episodes. Surely, they'd know that we know about their universe then (even though they wouldn't understand the language.) Whether that would scare the pony or relieve it, I don't know.
 
If it runs off or doesn't trust you, you're still at Square One. If you can earn a level of trust, then I guess you'd have to make everything into a game of charades and learning basic language. I'd figure facial expressions hold constant across humans, so I'd guess that ponies like those in Equestria would have the same expressions.

From the you can smile and say "good" and frown and say "bad." It would set a foundation for responding to basic questions and requests. You could also use episodes to figure out a pigeon to go by until a better way of communicating was devised. Point at things the pony knows from the show, you say what you know it as, the pony says what it knows it as.
 
 
 
After that, you'd have the same problem as before. Getting the pony back to Equestria without exposing it to humanity. If the talk pigeon "language" gets advanced enough, you may be able to communicate "wait for Twilight Sparkle/Princess Celestia."

There's also the pony itself to consider. Can you keep Berry out of your liquor cabinet? Pinkie will go where she wants when she wants (actually, Fluttershy is probably the only mane pony who couldn't physically bowl you over/launch you out of the way.) Pinkie seems to be more trusting than Rainbow Dash. Twilight would probably figure out how to get back to Equestria on her own in time, but maybe not Rarity, and most certainly not the other 4.

So many things to consider!

And Connor has the best idea. If the ponies are as we see them on tv, then surely Mrs. Faust knows as much as she's fleshed out about them up to a certain point, and the Jayson Thiessen would know the rest.

Well, in that case since I missed the Tube party. PM me will ya guys if u go on ahead

I wasn't necessarily thinking that she would know how the pony got there, but that she would have more knowledge of how they would act. She would know the basics (like how unicorn magic could have gotten the pony here) but not know what happened exactly. If anyone in the world knew what was going on, it would be her. Yes, "bridg[ing] the gap" would be what she would be perfect at.

I hope I have the highest post rate. Then I will be your god and require all of your virgins.

That was funny though. Who else but RF would troll with countries. Spelling was to good to be Sweatie. It was me that signed on as RF and TK just to see if I could get them caught up

Nothing to do with anything about the trolling, but I found something interesting!

Look! It's your first post in a pony thread!

Goodnight everypony, let me leave you with some BLASPHEMY.

that synch tube was pretty funny! I hope that my constant joking wasn't considered trolling though.

You know, sometimes when I bored and lonely. I get a tub a vasaline and rub it all over me naked, then i get on the kitchen floor and act like a slug.

I hope that my constant joking wasn’t considered trolling though.

No more than anyone else. Even I signed up as "newzealand" just to join the country trolling.

And we can still go there, BSoD. We bring up the R34 topic again and again. Why not this more tame topic?

I was going to into more detail about how to handle the situation of having a Pony in your backyard, if the pony did not speak your language and couldn’t understand English. That would be a whole new ball game…

Ok hold that thought Verbose. I want to continue that discussion, but I need to get some other things done first. I will be back later

So, what if the pony didn't speak English or any human language? This is a great question, thanks for bringing it up. It stands to reason that this is a reasonable assumption, given the fact that ponies can sometimes be heard making equine sounds in the background (or canine too apparently, in the case of Caramel).

The first instinct of people meeting those who can't understand them is speak REAL-LY. LOUD-LY. AND. SLOW-LY. in the off-chance this will make them understand. When that inevitably fails, more creative measures are needed.

The possibility of some type of sign language is out for obvious reasons. So, to me, this leaves two options: written language, or trying to learn pony language. I'll treat these individually, starting with the latter:

Operating under the assumption that pony language involves equine sounds which will not be easily reproducible with human anatomy, the prospect of attempting to learn pony language seems like it would take a very long time. On the other hand, it would be doable, even if only in the long run. Think of when the Spaniards first came to the Americas. They had no conception of Taíno, Arawak, Nahuatl, or any of the other languages spoken in the Americas, and likewise the locals had no conception of Spanish. It was not that hard to bridge the linguistic gap; take La Malinche, for example, who interpreted between the Spanish and the Aztec. In the Northwest, Chinook Jargon was constructed over time from English, French, Chinookan and Salishan languages, and served as the area's lingua franca for a long time; even today, pidgins and creoles are common throughout parts of the world. So, the concept of actually learning the pony language is not far-fetched, if you can be trained to reproduce equine phonemes. It would be the best long-term solution, and would provide the best chance of communicating complex ideas.

Attempting to create some type of written communication also seems to be a viable short-term possibility, specifically using logograms. Logograms (as opposed to phonograms) are the basis for such writing systems as Han Characters, Hieroglyphs, and Maya glyphs. It wouldn't be hard to communicate simple ideas logographically, and since ponies appear to have some type of written language, it stands to reason they would be able to use and develop a mutually-intelligible system. However, the complexity of ideas represented in the logographic writing systems listed above could not be reproduced without significant distillation and simplification of the glyphs, which takes a long time. So it seems that this would be best suited to a short-term solution.

Overall, I would attempt both; in the short term, I would attempt to communicate pictorially or logographically, and at the same time, begin an effort to learn the pony language so as to provide a long-term communication system.

Pidgin was the spelling I was looking for. I quickly put it "talk pi-" in the search bar and got "talk pigeon" as a suggestion, but pidgin is what I recognize from linguistics.

But with your explanation of trying to explain the difficulties of language, I just thought back to using the episodes as a mutual baseline. Pointing has been shown to be a way of communicating the need for attention to be given to an object or situation occurring in a specific direction, so that can be used to point out and designate objects in (Equestrian) and English/human language.

1. Start episode.
2. Point at object/character.
3. Slowly speak object's name so the pony could try to hear and recognize objects of conversation.

That's a way to set up a pictoral basis for communication, I think.
 
 
Now I'll be working/sleeping for about 20 hours , but I'll still talk about this for as long as the discussion goes.

I really do like art and images. I've searched all of the Twilight Sparkle and Pinkie Pie images on Ponibooru, most of the Scootaloo images, half of the Rarity images, and most of the Drawfriends on EqD.

I think one thing that I like is that so many different artists with so many different styles and so many different tones draw Pony, and draw it well. And sometimes, you get something entirely unexpected.

Megasweet does that with her Smarty Belle and her Futashy, to be brief.

And then if you know The Weaver and his style, this is him. It was too cute not to post. I hope we get a little more of a look into the mind of Pinkie before Season 3.

Hello everyone.

See you had lots of stuff going on here. Unfortunatelly I won`t be able to keep track of it all, so I`ll just leave my Slowpoke review of the episode.

First of all: NO LETTER TO CELESTIA?!?!?

But moving on: That episode really got me with my guard down. It was indeed a very good one. I got totally surprised knowing that the Apples (or the Smiths, now I don`t know anymore) were the true founders of Ponyville. It sure makes them the most important ponies in town. Also, of course, Granny Smith having the best moments of the episode (like when she`s being pupeteered by the CMC and doesn`t even notice), which now gave her the prize for one of best ponies in the show.

I also found quite interresting the concept of those Zap Apples: magic trees that give multi coloured apples after some special signs? Only Faust could come up with that. And, of course, making everypony glasses taste the rainbow YYYYEEEEEEAAAAHHH!!

Also daaaaaaw`d when Applebloom finally stood up for in the end DT sucked that right on, that bitch, though I thought she would be encouraged to do so from the very beginning by AJ and Big Mac. And got like "wow by knowing the Equestrian economy is not that simple as we always thought (and DT`s dad is a another rich but nice guy, I liked him btw).

And I guess that`s it for now. Disney`s being great so far (excuse me if I feel like bragging about it, It`s just that`s my first time there and I feel so thrilled and nostalgic that I have to share this with you).

So bye for now. And if you`ve never felt moved by this song, then you are a monster with no heart ;_; (lolkidding, just enjoy it)

Oh, and @opspe, Portuguese is NOT drunken spanish as you are suggesting ಠ_ಠ

@Dr. Greg:

Like I said, that's a really old joke amongst Spanish-speakers.

@Verbose:

I never thought to use the episodes as a means for communication. That's probably wise, since the pony may not be able to connect what it sees in our world with what's in Equestria.

Which raises another point: would the pony be able to consume water and food here? I know this is getting highly semantic, but it's still an issue I think. As a chemist, I can tell you that C.S. Lewis hit it spot on when, after Alice went through the looking glass, she wondered if the milk in the mirror universe was good to drink. In fact, it would not be, since most foodstuffs are enantiomeric. In a true mirror universe, just about all we'd be able to eat is salt and water. But taking that concept to the difference between our world and Equestria just poses new problems.

If the pony weren't able to eat or drink, somehow I think the language concern would become secondary.


And about art, I agree. I can't bring myself to trawl through PB's archives, but I really do like to see the variety of artistic styles that are out there.

Speaking of which, I'm currently working on shading another one of my OC-in-Earth images. I'm starting to think that, since I've spent a few hours doing it – much longer than actually drawing the image, I'm demanding a little too much precision. Well, that's what I get for being an analytical chemist.

And BSOD, how's your portrait coming along?

It is after all the happiest place on earth.
Portuguese is actually drunken Roman / Latin / Arabic

Well going to bed now. Working the next few days so wont be on much.

:D

@opspe

You mean this one?

Back to the dicsussion topic.

So my idea that the pony does not understand human language stems from an idea that x-singular had. Singular mentioned in a previous post that Equestria should have its own distinct language, numeral system, time system etc. For all we know the ponies speak in a language of clicks and squeaks. What we see in the show is only a translation of that.

These factors will make the scenario even more confusing for our dear lost pony in our world. Many of us know that the first thing we should do is establish some sort of communication or reason with the pony but it is likely we will appear as mindless terrifying two legged monsters who skawk and howl upon approach. The pony would have no reason to trust you.

And you have seen how ponies deal with monsters more terrifying than us. Rarity and Twilight will magic the shit out of you without hesitation, Applejack will shove her hoof up your ass, Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy will most likely try to fly away but I image that both of them will also kick your ass if you corner them. RD knows how to throw a hoof, Flutters will stare you down.

Pinkie Pie might be the easiest to deal with. She'll laugh at how hysterical we look standing on two legs and if you laugh with her you might just establish a friendship. Maybe even get to hug her.

Either way, while you are busy trying to figure out the ponies language you also need to think about how you will keep track of the pony and restrain it until it finally understands why you are trying to lock it down and prevent it from going anyway. Good luck getting any of them to stay in one spot while you try to get Lauren Faust on the phone.

As much as we would hate it, we might need to resort to brute force and some chloroform. What now?

But I do agree that the best place to start is to find media of the cartoon and show it to the pony. Even if the pony wont understand their own English-translated dialogue if the show, it will be enough to show how much we know about the Pony in question. That should pique enough of the Ponies curiosity to make it want to cooperate…maybe.

Conspiracy theory time!

Ever wonder why there are barely any male ponies in this show? You probably wrote it off as "it's a girl's show, so why put any males in it? girls are like "ew cooties" at that age right?"

No. You are stupid. That's not how it works. Everything in this show has a meaning. Everything.

Let's look to another cartoon show- the Smurfs. Smurfette is the only bloody female character on the show, and suitably, (from what I've heard) the 9000 other male smurfs are all over her. And why shouldn't they be? Their entire village will die out if she doesn't start having babies. Never mind inbreeding and incest, she needs to have lots of daughters so they can have more and so on. It will catch up to them eventually, like it did for Charles II. Guy was retarded (and not in a mean way, his lineage was crazy filled with incest).

I don't know why I'm going so off topic, but I'll continue. Smurfette was the only female in that show because a few years ago, Gargamel and his bandits ransacked the town and kidnapped all the females to use as sex slaves. Even the newborns. Obviously they had to bowdlerize it in the show, but Gargamel gave them one back. I probably should stop here because this analogy is going nowhere.

Many years ago, before Granny Smith was born a deadly war raged on between the three species of ponies. Of course, the stallions were sent off to fight, and the mares stayed home in their kitchens, because that's what we do.

It was brutal. Each side had their advantages. Pegasus ponies harnessed the power of the weather to completely disorient and debilitate their enemies. They also had the advantage of higher ground (clouds to be exact), and were hard to approach and stuff. Enemies couldn't do much, and pegasus relied on wearing the opponents down before they even engaged in combat. And when they did, they had their trusty lightning bolts

Unicorn ponies had magic on their side, and with that, the ability to do pretty much anything to their opponents. Playing pony bowling, with a pony as a ball, and the others as a pin, was popular. They could turn pegasus ponies' weather against them. And yes, they used Unforgivable Curses. Princess Celestia still has fond memories of saying Avada Kedavra and obliterating entire legions, of pegasus, earth, and even unicorn ponies when felt like it. They had all the raw power, and could handily win, if only they weren't completely outnumbered, by a ratio a bit over 9000 to 1.

What Earth Ponies lacked in cool skills, they made up with by being disposable. No matter how many of them were killed, there always seemed to be more. Charging at enemies in huge legions usually did the trick, albeit leaving few survivors. Other regiments relied on guerilla warfare and terror, killing any pegasus or unicorn that dared do anything alone, especially something as idiotic leaving the kitchen.

The unicorns fell first, but not without taking over half of the pegasi and earth ponies down. The two remaining groups fought to the death, and it seemed to have no end. Either side came inches within winning, and then suddenly lost it all. This was far from the friendship and tolerance you see in Equestria today, and if a show was made about it, "My Little Pony" would be the worst title ever.

In the end, neither of them on, and they obilterated each other. There were literally no male ponies left. Lesbianism was rampant. Even Celestia was sad. Luna was probably sad too, but she was stuck on the moon and probably didn't see anything. Or maybe it hardened her into Nightmare Moon. However, with the help of the great explorer pony, Christina Columbus (how do I make that pony related), they found a new world, brought 3 native male ponies back, one of each kind of pony, and were promptly raped by everypony in Equestria*. Especially Celestia. Mmmm.

And that's how Equestria was made.

That probably made no sense at all in relation to the show. But that's what you get from a psychotic girl who hasn't written a TL;DR on this site for 40 pages.

SOMEONE DO A FANFIC ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW.

*What if a male pony was born? Incest time (see that's where I was going with the Smurfs analogy)!

@Twins: So, you're saying it's like the Lost Generation, I see… An interesting theory, although it should have caused a genetic bottleneck that probably would have manifested itself through various mutations by the current generation of ponies. So, I'm not entirely convinced by your argument – I'm going to stick with Occam's razor in this case.

@BSOD: Yes, that's the one. I wasn't sure because there are so many versions floating around out there.

Applejack will shove her hoof up your ass

mmmm

Finally finished that shading. I'll probably upload the image tomorrow, so stay tuned if you're interested. Since I have class in under eight hours, I'm going to sack it now. Later!

@twins

Wow…I mean…wow. Ok…

So is that your explanation for why Berry Punch is seemingly so open and welcoming towards rape? Because rape is pretty much how the species propagates after pony society became completely female dominant with no males involvement in society whatsoever?

Are you also hinting towards a certain Fluttershy+Pinkie Pie tumblr that suggests that two mares can have a foal? Since you imply a total male extinction in an entire continent that did not result in the immediate collapse of the population. Instead pony civilization sustained itself on lesbianism. That would explain most of the shipping out there in fact.

Overall a very interesting theory and one that certainly would make for an interesting read if a fanfiction was made about it.

Also:

@opspe

Yes, that's right. Don't mess with Applejack. She will Applebuck your sorry ass in half!

Just had a thought, what would happen and what would you do if Lyra showed up I your backyard?

Lyra? I'm not sure how she would behave differently from most other characters. But Bon Bon is going to be annoyed when she finds her missing and the dishes have not been done.

@ashbot:
Applejack? best pony? please my CrabJack begs to differ

@opspe:

She'd shove her hoof up your ass, and then she'll draw her hoof-claws.
As you can see in the above picture, she still has remnants of Rarity on her claws from her last fight.

@twins:

HUH?

How to tell if X-Singular reads your posts

Step 1: Make an OC family portrait with him in it.

Step 2: Misspell his name

Step 3: See if he notices and points it out

Singular, you have FAILED THE TEST

Fixed image:

But dayum. I believe this page got more text than all the spamming from last two days together.

Pony in your backyard and whether or not (s)he understands English is a bit too overanalyzing for me, so I won't join in on that topic.

@Connor
3000 Forum Posts in 5 months. Impressive. I got 2200 in 7 months, so 10/11 posts per day.

But that's only forum posts. If we count everything, I believe I'm the winner here. I got 8238 total contributions (not including this post). Now we have to remember that my position as a moderator of course gives me some more contributions. But dayum, that's a lot.

Hey guys. This Christmas my mother got my A (The?) Brony shirt. Right now Im going to school to flaunt this motherfucker.

How to tell if X-singular has a terrible internet connection where pics never load to the end and lives in a terrible country where the power is out for 9 hours daily….*

FIXED

Seriously though I still can't see myself in that pic, anything below opspe's name is buried in snow. (it's white that is.)
Also I think I pointed out that mistake a long time ago…unless this is a new pic…

[#citationneeded]
also please stop capitalizing the "S" in "X-singular", when "Singular" is on it's own it's fine,
but other than that it kinda gets on my nerves…
[/#citationneeded]

It's a different image. I made a typo and spelled your name X-singlular. Sorry about the capitalization though, I'll keep the proper grammar in mind

Anyway, it would appear my topic is being derailed yet again. Oh well, at least we got a decent amount of literature dams going on in this page, see you again next night for another episode of LATE NIGHT DEBATE CLUB. I'm going to bed

@Y-DualCore

[/terriblybadjoke]

Why is Verbose a deer?

Why not?

Because robots.

TL;DR = teal deer = Verbose

Okay, so I've been out for a day or so, so if anything important happened, I missed it.

In other news, there is now permanent, irrevocable proof that I am a brony on my dad's back-up hard drive. And I can't delete it because it's password protected. You see, we ran out of hard drive space on the computer we share, so we moved all 25 GB of my music onto my dad's back-up hard drive for the time being to free up some space. So now whenever I want to listen to music, or even synch my iPod, I have to plug it in. Unfortunately, since it's also the back-up drive, this also triggers the file back-up sequence, and if I'm not paying attention, it will back-up the entire hard drive when I plug it in. Unfortunately for me, this happened a couple days ago while I had some temporary pony pics on my section of the hard drive and now they're in the back-up drive FOREVER.

So here's hoping my dad doesn't take to rummaging through the back-up drive anytime soon.

Hard drives tend to hate extreme heat. Worst comes to worst, ur gonna have to destroy it. 4000*F should be enough to cause serious damage

@StarGazer
This could happen

@dac

Dude, I've been a deer since I started posting. And Daniel posted the train of logic.

And ponies trust deer. I'm pastel-colored too. I'd earn their trust before resorting to chloroform.

If you don't believe I'm a deer, then I'd think that speaking softly and slowly wouldn't put the ponies on their guards. Let it approach you. Furthermore, I'd believe gestures are similar to those used in North America. Surrender (both hands raised and open,) pointing, and looking are already established ways of communicating.

Forgive me if I'm a bit rambly. I'm posting from my DS again.

Speaking of rambling, what the devil, twins?!

Im sitting around here bored. Why did you all have to go to school or work…

I just got back from a meeting with my research supervisor. Real life concerns take precedence, doncha know. I'm not gonna lie though, it is nice to be told that I can "generate beautiful data."

I'm also just about finished with my image, I'll post it soon.

We have to. To be honest, I don't like going to school. Most of the kids there are assholes.