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Surprised not to see a thread like this in years.

ITT: Personal thoughts on UFOs/Alien??

I'm a believer. I personally believe human beings were brought here from another highly advanced life form. Or we were put here by another advanced reason.

>this guy lmao

BUT in all seriousness can we talk about the existing of other potential lifeforms?

ProTip: Never trust your government when it comes to this kind of issue.

I know there are other videos that seem legit, but I refuse to believe we have not been told the real truth.

The verified disinformation campaigns the US military engaged in with regards to the UFO phenomenon (one in the late 40s-50s when it was a new thing, again around the mid 70s-80s, and who knows whenever else) are very weird, primarily because we can only speculate about the motive for any of them. The one that began in the 70s was probably related to clandestine aerospace research, something very related to the phenomenon for both skeptics and conspiracy theorists, and a single man, Paul Bennewitz, accidentally learning about some such R&D at Kirkland AFB. The motivations for other disinformation campaigns are something relegated to the realm of speculation.

Then there's the whole issue of some very bizarre UFO incidents and the military's strange responses to them. One of the best is the 1976 Tehran UFO incident on a joint US-Iranian AFB, where two pilots made visual and radar contact, as well as ground radar detection, with an unidentified object violating the base's airspace. They pursued the aircraft but couldn't keep up with it, and when they eventually attempted to fire on the object, electronic systems on the craft suddenly began to malfunction. The object reportedly landed somewhere later on before taking off again, after which a team was sent look for anything left by it such as radiation, indentations on the ground, or physical material. Any records of what they found are property of the Iranian government. The Iranian personnel involved with the incident like the generals and pilots are pretty open about the incident and are adamant they encountered an extraterrestrial craft. US military personnel on the base that have been questioned about the whole thing tend to refuse to discuss it.

That's just one incident, there a several other very compelling encounters such as the the time a US army helicopter was reportedly caught in a light shined by a UFO that rapidly changed their speed and altitude. Popular media and those who don't look very deeply into the UFO question always fail to realize the depth of the issue and just how strange it really it, both the actual phenomenon and military responses to it, and how compelling it can be.

I personally believe it's pretty likely aliens exist, considering how vast the universe is

but also considering how big it is I mostly doubt aliens have visited earth, maybe they have, maybe ancient aliens are a thing[and no I'm not talking about like, the shitty conspiracy show on history, I'm thinking more alien colonies on earth long before human civilization was even a thing] but I doubt UFOs are around, perhaps other distant planets have made civilizations of their own but I don't think aliens have reached earth, at least yet and I'm pretty fucking sad we likely will never actually come in contact with any during our lives

I also personally Imagine aliens probably won't look like us, at least completely, maybe some will be at least humanoid, but I think Lovecraft kinda understands that aliens probably will look, well, alien to us, and if they're intelligent, we might have trouble understanding them and miscommunication leading to the end of us all is a decent possibility in the first contact

speaking of the first contact, considering how humanity has reacted to other races we've 'discovered', chances are the first contact might not be peaceful and might involve a war, with either us or the aliens starting it, I'd say it would be a 50/50 chance as to who starts it.

If that does happen ultimately I hope it just would end in a peace treaty instead of annihilation, but that's probably a naive thing.

Extraterrestrials are an interesting topic to me, let's just leave it at that

Human beings could also be, and probably are, the most advanced civilization in the near galaxy. For all we know, millions of years into the future, some alien race would look back at the long extinct ancient alien race of humans who seeded millions of worlds.

I have hope that humanity would [and should] expand into space, again sadly I don't think this will ever happen when I'm around

We've already expanded into space. And we are seeing an emerging field of industries trying to start commercializing space travel, and space mining, colonizing, etc.

Certainly I doubt it's going to be like science fiction. I don't even think we will be able to find a way to FTL in the next millennium or two.

But that doesn't mean that establishing colonies in our solar system requires FTL travel. We already have a lot of the technology of how we can even engage in the first steps of such missions – with the major problems being just the distance and energy required to get there. But people like Elon Musk are already pushing the boundaries of that – making it cheaper and cheaper to transport heavy equipment into space.

I would venture to say that you would be at least able to see the first real attempts at colonization of either the moon or Mars. It wouldn't be a massive martian city, but a small colony isn't far out of the realm – especially if we find new ways of terra forming Mars. Within a couple of hundred years and technological progress I wouldn't be surprised if we start expanding to much of our solar system.

And already many people have discussed the idea of generational ships, ones that are mostly driven by AI that would take hundreds of years to reach potentially habitable planet, upon which cloning technology can be used to create colonists.

I feel like if we discover aliens the first ones we will find will probably be more primal and animal-like, like the xenomorph or the Thing. Either that or we will literally just find alien bacteria or cells.

If we do find intelligent life first, it will probably be them making the first move instead of us. And I feel like that would be a bad thing. Unless they're incredibly enigmatic and just do what they what regardless of what we'd predict them to do, the only reasons I see them coming to Earth would be either to subjugate us, take our resources, or take our bodies to be used in some scientific (and probably horrifying) way.

As well, I'd predict these aliens will probably resemble more or less depictions of creatures in H.P. Lovecraft's stories. That's because aliens would be, well, completely alien to us. At best they'd resemble something that we would think would be some sort of practical joke like people used to think the platypus was. At worst our minds will just make up stuff to put in their place as a placeholder because our minds would literally be unable to comprehend them. If they're here for peace then if they cared enough they might project themselves as a form we'd better understand.