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Louis C.K. (and now George Takei!) face accusations of sexual misconduct

Last posted Nov 13, 2017 at 03:20AM EST. Added Nov 09, 2017 at 05:11PM EST
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…guess the flow started by #MeToo is yet to abate. I'm not gonna say I'm not surprised, because I still am, but I think several folks will not be too surprised or will outright say "I knew it", with this guy in particular.

I'm starting to realize this might keep going. There's a whole momentum to this stream of reveals, and I don't think it's over.

I remember hearing stories about this a little while back and wondering why it hadn't exploded into a big story. Guess the Weinstein stuff kicked a bunch of boulders off the hill.

Mr. Candles wrote:

Oh for fuck's sake the day's not even over yet
We're reaching an accusations singularity already


(I was going to post a picture of the singularity drive, but given how most of the images of the film are… well… It's safer to just post the wikipedia image)
[the joke here is "welcome to hell"]

Allow me to offer an unpopular opinion: I really don't like just how this "sexual allegation" witchhunt that seems to be happening right now. Of course, celebrities who have committed sexual crimes deserve to be punished. But at this rate with all the excitement going on, I feel like it would be easy for a celebrity who hasn't actually done anything wrong to get accused by some rando who wants attention.
Think of the consequences: all it takes is a single allegation and a post on reddit and boom. Your career is ruined and everyone now thinks you're a sex maniac. That's pretty fucked up.
Stuff like this shouldn't be immediately publicized, anyways. It should be handled in court, and only if someone is found guilty should the public be allowed to fuck them over.

Muffinlicious wrote:

Allow me to offer an unpopular opinion: I really don't like just how this "sexual allegation" witchhunt that seems to be happening right now. Of course, celebrities who have committed sexual crimes deserve to be punished. But at this rate with all the excitement going on, I feel like it would be easy for a celebrity who hasn't actually done anything wrong to get accused by some rando who wants attention.
Think of the consequences: all it takes is a single allegation and a post on reddit and boom. Your career is ruined and everyone now thinks you're a sex maniac. That's pretty fucked up.
Stuff like this shouldn't be immediately publicized, anyways. It should be handled in court, and only if someone is found guilty should the public be allowed to fuck them over.

Hes a question that most of the arm chair paragons wont ask.

Is there room for redemption after punishment? CK has decades of stand up experience and hes one of the best stand ups around right now. He has award winning shows and movies and all of this took years of talent,practice, and study. Should that all be thrown out the window?

Is it morally just to keep a creepy weirdo employed by supporting his art and giving him millions after hes hurt so many people

Or is it wrong to blacklist an artists work for the rest of his or hers life depriving the world from their creations and having years of hard work go to waste?

Where is the gray area? Is there a gray area? In a perfect world where most people aren't reactionary should someone like C.K be allowed to create things on TV and such and what would it take for them to do so?

I think what he did was really gross and weird but ive watched nearly every interview this guys done. Hes spent most of his adult life trying to get where he is today and I think hes one of the best standups currently alive and I want him to make more things but I also don't want to encourage this type of behavior by having the pubic give him a slap on the wrist.

Piccata Titicaca wrote:

When does it end?

It won't it seems until everything in Hollywood is burned down (in a sense). I wouldn't dought that this is the start of the end of Hollywood and a new media nexus will form up in it's wake and ashes.

Is there room for redemption after punishment?

His statement apologizing has been a good start. If he does as he says and takes "a long time to listen", and the women accusing him forgive him, then I think society should accept him back into the fold. He may even become a force for positive change on this topic within in the industry.

But there are always going to be people who believe he must be sidelined indefinitely for something like this. So in a sense his reputation will probably never fully recover.

Seems I'm not the only one who find this sudden spike in accusations worrying. Heck, recently a CEO of a TV-broadcaster studio in my country got accused of sexual harassment, and it's all over the news here.

Whether it's true or not remains to be seen, but I'm mainly worried if this is only the beginning of a new trend.

John Mirra wrote:

Seems I'm not the only one who find this sudden spike in accusations worrying. Heck, recently a CEO of a TV-broadcaster studio in my country got accused of sexual harassment, and it's all over the news here.

Whether it's true or not remains to be seen, but I'm mainly worried if this is only the beginning of a new trend.

It strikes me as necessary housecleaning.

It's pretty clear to me that sexual harassment and assault are far more common than people realize, and it follows from that that there are plenty of people who are victims who have not come forward for one reason or another. I've see plenty of female friends warn each other about "dangerous" or "creepy" people, and while to me it seemed distressing that they would have to do that, to them it just appeared to be "the thing to do." I got the impression that dealing with this stuff is far more of a daily reality for women than most men realize.

This sudden influx strikes me a exactly what you'd expect to happen if we were to start fixing the problem: the barriers to coming forward drop, and all those pent up accusations come out at once. Think of it like a wound-up spring, all those Bill Cosby types who got away with it for years and accumulated a huge number of incidences suddenly getting decades of comeuppance at once.

In the future, hopefully, when someone does something like this the first time they will be called out and disciplined right away – so that the problem does not continue to escalate. That will not only decrease the overall number of bombshell mass accusations, but also make it harder for abusive men to arrive at positions of power. Someone like Weinstein would get in trouble once and have his career stall out before he became one of the most powerful people in Hollywood, and the less powerful he is the less able he would be to pressure women into sex. Someone else who isn't an asshole would simply take his place.

So on the whole I'd say this is a good thing. Not a pleasant thing by any stretch of the imagination – like, I used to like George Takei and Louis CK, just like I was fond of Woody Allen films before I learned about what he'd done – but it is something that more or less had to happen at some point.

Team Arkos wrote:

It won't it seems until everything in Hollywood is burned down (in a sense). I wouldn't dought that this is the start of the end of Hollywood and a new media nexus will form up in it's wake and ashes.

And what happens when it goes on beyond Hollywood?

This is more than a Hollywood problem: it's an authority problem.

>the very same people that attacked trump for sexual harrasment are rapists themselves.



really makes the brain matter start flowing

Here i am hoping alteast the allegations against takei are true so he can finally get off his damn high horse

Last edited Nov 12, 2017 at 04:31PM EST

"Here i am hoping alteast the allegations against takei are true so he can finally get off his damn high horse"

I hope not, because that means someone got drugged and assaulted. I'd rather there not be someone who was drugged and assaulted.

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