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What are your thoughts on the 2015 Cartoon Network pilots

Last posted Jul 20, 2015 at 01:14AM EDT. Added May 21, 2015 at 11:02AM EDT
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For 2015, Cartoon Network has released three new animated pilots.

Lizz Hickey's Jammers

Andres Salaff's Ridin' with Burgess

Julia Vickerman's Twelve Forever

What are your thoughts on them?

Which one would you like seeing picked-up?

Jammers is basically Uncle Grandpa: High School Years in terms of humour. The character designs are kinda ugly too (Though in all honesty, Clarence has the same flaw but manages to have charm). I really don't want to see this one.

Ridin' With Burgess would probably work better on Adult Swim like Joey to the World from Cartooninstitute. it's pretty much Regular Show in space. I also find the main character a little annoying though.

Twelve Forever looks fun to watch. Its got a nice premise with good characters. Definitely want this one to come. It's like CN's answer to Star vs the Forces of Evil.

I couldn't even get myself all the way through the Jammers pilot. The easy comparison is to say it's like Uncle Grandpa, but I feel like UG has actually clever humor, and Jammers doesn't show any of that in its pilot. I thought the idea of the subconscious was pretty neat and could make some laughs, but it's certainly not enough to save this pilot. I also really didn't get the art style. I can understand intentionally ugly styles, especially with how common that sort of thing is in western animation, but this animations is just… Too much. Definitely don't wanna see this one picked up.

Ridin' with Burgess was, as said above, Regular Show in space. Do we need another Regular Show? I don't think so. I actually thought Burgess himself was kinda funny, and I liked the character designs as well as the sci-fi aspect which we don't see on CN very often. Overall though the whole thing felt one note and it didn't get any chuckles from me. Maybe if this were picked up it would have a chance to grow into its own thing, but for now I'll give it a pass.

Twelve Forever was far and away my favorite one. From the thumbnail it kinda looked like Atomic Betty, although the pilot itself didn't really evoke that. I loved the character design (dem lanky arms tho) and I immediately wanna cosplay Twelve. I got a lot of laughs out of this pilot, so thumbs up for that. The pilot also did one thing that the others did not. It made me want to know more about the world the pilot built. What's the deal with that key? What part does Shane play in this? How did that awesome villain come to be a part of the world that Twelve apparently controls? I. Need. More. My one complaint that I can think of is that the bully mohawk guy feels too much like Lars from Steven Universe. This is definitely the one I want Cartoon Network to pick up. It would also be nice to see another show created by a woman so soon after Rebecca Sugar took the title of first woman on CN to make a show. I was honestly a little afraid Rebecca would be a fluke and CNs lineup of show creators would become a sausage fest after she was gone, but I'm glad to see that actually more women are stepping up with their own projects.

How do pilots on CN work? Do they only pick up one out of these three pilots, or do they pick up whichever ones they think will be successful, whether that be all three or none of them?

The first one is…..ehhh. His humour is not for me.

The second one is good……but I feel is Regular Show: Electric Boogalo. It could work…..I guess. But its for the better to wait until Regular Show ends or just put it on Adult Swim (Which I think would work better)

Now, Twelve Forever was really good. Fun and it reminds me of Star vs the forces of evil (maybe thats the purpose). Though…..that villain: she kind reminds me of Him…..and not in a good way. Im don't like "sexually ambigous" characters because sometimes they could gather rather…..negative response from people. I hope they can him her a more feminine voice.

she kind reminds me of Him…..and not in a good way. Im don’t like “sexually ambigous” characters because sometimes they could gather rather…..negative response from people.

I don't get it… You're saying you don't like it because other people won't like it? You don't like it because you think it could hurt the show's chances of getting picked up due to the possibility of it becoming "controversial"? Either way I think giving her a feminine voice would ruin the character, which it seems the youtube audience has grown rather attached to already. And the idea of changing the voice just to appease certain people puts my jimmies in a jam. CN is no stranger to "controversial" characters anyway, with two canonically lesbian couples and, as you've mentioned, Him from PPG which aired almost 20 freaking years ago. So I don't know why you're thinking it will hurt the show.

Crimson Locks wrote:

she kind reminds me of Him…..and not in a good way. Im don’t like “sexually ambigous” characters because sometimes they could gather rather…..negative response from people.

I don't get it… You're saying you don't like it because other people won't like it? You don't like it because you think it could hurt the show's chances of getting picked up due to the possibility of it becoming "controversial"? Either way I think giving her a feminine voice would ruin the character, which it seems the youtube audience has grown rather attached to already. And the idea of changing the voice just to appease certain people puts my jimmies in a jam. CN is no stranger to "controversial" characters anyway, with two canonically lesbian couples and, as you've mentioned, Him from PPG which aired almost 20 freaking years ago. So I don't know why you're thinking it will hurt the show.

I'll correct myself. I like her character, and don't dislike ambigous characters. It's just that where I live there's always mind dumb people talking about how "badly influential" shows are today (to which I call bullshit to them), and I just want that to stop. I DO hope this show get picked up.

Thrash95 wrote:

I'll correct myself. I like her character, and don't dislike ambigous characters. It's just that where I live there's always mind dumb people talking about how "badly influential" shows are today (to which I call bullshit to them), and I just want that to stop. I DO hope this show get picked up.

Stop talking about children's shows to your friends then.
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  • Jammers: As @Magnus Force and Crimson Locks have already stated, Jammers is just Uncle Grandpa, except with none of the charm the latter has. The "purposely ugly gross out humour" seems to be a trend in modern animation, most likely trying to cash in on the style of Ren and Simpy; except they do not understand what made Rena and Stimpy good in the first place. Also, Lizz Hickey is an awful person. Mod edit: Warning that this comic contains cartoon penises -Crimson I really hope this does not get greenlit. Score: 2/5
  • Burgess: I don't have much to say about this one; it's just Regular Show in space. The cast is certainly likable, especially compared to the ones in Jammers. The main problem with this one is its plot; will there be an overarching plot or just stand alone episodes. It has potential, but if it does not cash it in, it will be a bomb. Possible greenlight, if so, let it air on Adult Swim. Score: 3/5
  • Twelve Forever: This was favorite of the three. The animation is well done and the concept and execution so far has yet to be wasted. If greenlit, I'm hoping nothing drastically changes about the art style or the already established canon. Also, Butt Witch is best girl. Score: 4/5
Last edited May 26, 2015 at 01:57AM EDT

Meh

I can see that all three will most likely be picked up throughout the year. I did not like Jammers but, it will appeal to younger audiences, thus making it desirable. Ridin with Burgess is the same, will appeal younger audiences. Twelve Forever, I found well done and would watch again, mainly its the art style that appealed to me and its whimsical nature.

Well, I felt like I was a bit high in the firs 30 seconds of the first one. The second one's art style I liked. Main character also reminded me of Napoleon Dynamite. The third one I liked the most. I hope Cartoon Network picks it up.

Twelve Forever is pretty cool, definitely hoping it's greenlit (might already be, but still I'd like confirmation). I need more Buttwitch in my life, she's like the lovechild of Him from Powerpuff Girls and Red Guy from Cow and Chicken (plus I'll go ahead and admit it, form fitting outfits like that are always super hot when you've got the hips for it).

For the hell of it I even looked up Buttwitch on deviantArt and found there's at least 28 results so far, and even more in a Google Image search. No rule 34 yet, but still some nice fanart like these:

Mistress Fortune wrote:

Twelve Forever is pretty cool, definitely hoping it's greenlit (might already be, but still I'd like confirmation). I need more Buttwitch in my life, she's like the lovechild of Him from Powerpuff Girls and Red Guy from Cow and Chicken (plus I'll go ahead and admit it, form fitting outfits like that are always super hot when you've got the hips for it).

For the hell of it I even looked up Buttwitch on deviantArt and found there's at least 28 results so far, and even more in a Google Image search. No rule 34 yet, but still some nice fanart like these:

Yeah, there's rule 34 of her, Twelve, and Shane. I saw it on Google Images. But you didn't here that from me…

just a heads-up

Cartoon Network has removed all of the pilots from their website (don't worry, the youtube re-uploads are still there) except for the Twleve Forver pilot

they also re-uploaded the 2014 pilot "Back to Backspace" by Dominic Bisignano, which was nominated for the 2015 Annie awards

I wonder if this is supposed to indicate something

Last edited Jun 06, 2015 at 05:44AM EDT

How am I just now finding out about this? I'm normally all about animation.

Twelve Forever was the only one which really impressed me, mostly because of the characters. There is a fine line between delightfully eccentric and annoying. Twelve did not cross into annoying territory. Burgess did. Her sidekick was a likable voice-of-reason. In particular, it was surprising to see him stick up for the bully, indicating a future redemptive character arc. The antagonist was interesting, not so much for her personality, but because she represented Twelve's fear that growing up means leaving behind the things that bring her joy. I suspect that will be the main focus of the series, which is much deeper than I expected when I first started watching. Frankly, it's easy to sympathize with her, because it describes most adult animation fans pretty well. I can't forget the art. So wonderfully eighties. I love it. Twelve's creations looked kind of Adventure Time-y, but they aren't on screen enough to get dull. The human character designs are solid and enjoyable to watch. Also, the writing was witty, especially the dialogue between the main characters. Not to go all social justice, and I know gender wasn't even a major theme of the pilot, but I like that we're getting more non-cliched female characters lately. Of the three pilots, Twelve Forever has the most potential for good character development. i will be disappointed if it doesn't get picked up.

As for Jammers, I don't have much to say. It's clever to have a character's subconscious following her around everywhere, but that's about it. I suppose some people (especially children) will love it, but I prefer character-driven comedy to random silliness. The art was…appropriate, I guess.

Ridin' With Burgess. Uh. There's an interesting premise and it's funnier than Jammers, but that's all I got.

You know what's weird? I keep on thinking of Ridin' With Burgess as a show that already exists instead of just a pilot. I suppose that has to do with the fact that it feels so much like Regular Show and other things Cartoon Network likes to air, but it's strange to me thinking that there aren't more episodes than just the one.

another fast update

TWELVE FOREVER is up for Emmy consideration for “Outstanding Short Form Animated Program”

http://juliavickerman.tumblr.com/post/122225894505/my-cartoon-network-short-twelve-forever-is-up-for

The first one was weird and kinda randumb and unfunnny.

Ridin' with Bugress is not like Regular Show. It's nowhere near as funny or entertaining. It's not too bad, but to call it Regular Show is kind of an insult. I can see the similarities but Regular Show has much more interesting characters and the setting is a weird half real, half fucked up setting. This is just some hillbilly in space.

Twelve forever was by far my favourite and it was great. Loved the visuals. Characters were cute and pretty interesting. It was really colourful and bright, but maybe a bit too sickly sweet. The world is creative, but I think there wasn't much to make a judgment. Want to see more of the school too. Good voice actors And MATT BERRY AS THE BAD GUY! Wow I was not expecting this. Matt Berry is great and I would watch it just for him.

Farm Zombie wrote:

Nice to see Twelve Forever getting some respect. I hope it gets picked up.

seeing how both Twelve Forever and Back to Backspace were nominated for awards and featured on CNs website, it may be a sign of them getting picked-up

Is it bad that I kind of liked Jammers?

I mean, I hated the gross-out factor, and the randumbness, and the art style, but otherwise I was entertained.

…

Riding with Burgess was….. Okay, but it certainly wasn't good. It wasn't funny, the main character was kind of annoying, and the only other character that stood out for me was the pink haired woman…

…

And then there's Twelve Forever.

….

I didn't QUITE like it as much as other people, I actually kind of don't like the art style (And I bet part of the reason I don't like it is because I didn't grow up with many shows with a similar art style, so it doesn't make me feel any nostalgia), the pacing was weird, and Twelve's dialogue was awkward.

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But I did like everything else about Twelve Forever, plus I bet the pacing would be improved when it becomes an actual show, so I still hope it gets greenlit.

Last edited Jun 23, 2015 at 02:52PM EDT
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