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I've only been around for several days. I barely know anyone. My guess is that she's in her early twenties and has little experience in the work force. That's why I prefaced the statement with "I'm going to assume…"

It has been a while since we have had posts here. I would like to say I'm still willing to discuss feminism with anyone who wants to. I feel that this thread has been fairly respectful and I don't want it to get auto locked.

technically the whole quinnspiracy thing could be discussed here. What irks me the most about it is how she tries to use feminism to cover her ass. She's dragging feminism through the mud because she just doesn't want to admit that she fucked up.

Just an anecdote I want share.

Back in my days of WoW I started playing on a private server, that server got really popular, so it was decided to increase the population of GM's from 6 to 10, only one was female so the server owner came with this idea that the new 4 members should be female, at first this looked good but if you think more this was a terrible idea, petitions of old GM's and veteran users that have proven to be helpful were turned down, the 4 girls were basically strangers neither active on the forums/game or helpful reporting bugs, hackers, griefers, etc. also they weren't particularly skilled moderating users or having knowledge of the game, they were not fit for the role they were only there because they were females, as expected this caused a shitstorm and in the end 3 quitted.

Moral of the story, equality in genders is not equality in numbers, equality in genders means that both male and females have the same chances to compete for a desired job/role.

Time for getting mad!

" 22-year-old criminology student with a three-year-old."

Because at that age you have the world figured out.

And, of course, people think her idiotic opinion is plausible and worthy of discussion.

"What? You mean you don't think we should practice totalitarian eugenics? Well you're just a part of the rape-endorsing patriarchy."

It's the fact that people are allowed to say this stuff and actually be taken seriously. It's acceptable to talk about a world where men are essentially castrated and millions of people are treated like animals. I mean what's worse then the crazy idiots who have these stupid ideals is that the fact a double standard arises where it's completely OK to think that the other half of the population is inherently evil because of bad people, but the fact that when someone on that other half suffers at the hands of the other gender it is expected that they aren't allowed to let the actions of some bad women warp their view. So now if a man harms a women she is allowed to talk about mass castration/culling and a man harmed by woman is branded a misogynist for the same thought process. Culling of men and make them second class citizens because they have a dick, fine. Saying women are bitches by nature, you are some kind of monster.

This also harms feminism because they tolerate this behaviour because it comes from a woman and it puts me and many others off the idea of supporting feminism if they don't realize the double standard and don't distance themselves from these insane idealists who just want to harm an entire gender because some people of that gender hurt them.

@Coolface

Fantastic. Lets get started

Now Femithiest here starts off sounding reasonable. At least she's not serious at all about "castrating all men" after all. You'd have to crazy to consider taking manliness away from men on a mass scale. That would just get ugly. She may probably be right that a world with less testicles running the show will statistically have slightly less violence (maybe…until women realize they can pick up the slack, which they can) and it's not terrible to lower the male population just by having parents choose not to have boys at their own discretion. At least that's not taking anything away from existing men. If that's all this was, it wouldn't be that big of a deal.

But the more you read, the more and more she reveals her very bigoted and one-sided thinking. It begins riiiiiight…about….here:

"Essentially my ideas lead to men being made a special class"

At this point I've already spotted her go directly against the philosophy of equality and you know how weary I am of people who think "equality" means tipping the scale instead of balancing it

==TL;DR:==
As much as she desperately tries to pass her wisdom off as a vision for utopia, these are not the words of someone with any moral regard or consideration for male life and well being. According to Femithiest: Men are not human beings. They are nothing more than stock value for Femithiest to regulate and control. There's a word for those who do not identify people as human beings with the right to live freely. It certainly isn't "visionary"
==TL;DR:==

Let's begin:

I believe that conventional equality, with a 50/50 female-to-male ratio, is an inferior system.

Missing the mark on the concept of equality from the get-go. Conventional equality is not based on population numbers. That 50/50 male-to-female ratio means 50/50 respect for each other. Simply balancing population numbers does not bring equality as long as one side has power and healthy disdain for the other. History has proven this plenty of times.

Essentially my ideas lead to men being made a special class having choice of a myriad of women due to the difference in sex ratio. Men would be made more valuable. They would have a subsidised existence if you will

Essentially her ideas compare men to salable assets or commodities. If you're thinking this starts to sound like rearing cattle, that's because it does. None of this guarantees men will be seen with more value in the eyes of a greater female majority (especially an extremely lesbian one as Femithiest later hints at). That hasn't worked for minorities in the past. It's more likely men will be seen with the same cold emotionless apathy as Femithiest does herself. When you raise people to consider things as just objects for society to exploit, that's exactly what you get.

Also a subsidized existence means a dependent one. Men generally do not like being dependent. They crave freedom. That's why the machines are the bad guys in The Matrix: a film depicting humans being stripped of all independence and existing solely because another demographic lets them exist for their service. Femithiest is just describing a society that places women in the boots of the robot overlords. And the robots also tried to offer utopia too.

Further research into designer babies will be necessary: manipulating gender or sex, prenatal sex discernment, sex-selective abortions, development of dual-female progeny (babies created from two mothers), and numerous other mechanisms will be utilised in order to achieve these aspirations

Now proposing a system that allows parents to decide for themselves whether or not to have boys is not offensive. That's an individual right to choose rather than a blockade on humanity. There's no oppression of sexes here…so long as people can choose not to have girls either…but there's something I find vehemently offensive about the prospect of changing male fetuses into female or aborting them… for being male. However way you look at it, that's still a conscious decision to devalue a male for being a male and treat it is expendable trash. Equality means equal treatment and respect for all demographics and only judging the induvidual for their induvidual actions. Something that Femithiest's ideas do not seem to consider. So for equality sake I hope Femithiest supports the abortion of female fetuses for being female. But I'm sure she'd be horrified at that thought.

Not going to comment on the biology since this is purely a question of Equality and Ethics

The most suitable men would simply be those who are fit in both body and mind. This is also related to genetic modification.

A great degree of superficiality is exposed here. Men aren't good enough for Femithiest so she wants to genetically engineer the superior male race that women will see fit

And of course the standard only applies to men. No mention of genetically cultivating all women into a perfect model than all men see fit. Only cultivating women to how women see fit.

I could invoke godwins law here. But I'll spare you guys from that for now.

I believe we must remove men from the community and place them in their own specific sections of society, akin to subsidised or state-funded reservations, so they can be redefined.

Remember what I said about cattle? MOOOOO!

As a society we want to move away from segregation. Segregation is a fantastic breeder of hatred, xenophobia, bigotry, oppression and racism. Here we see Femithiest totally advocating it for men. Replace the word "men" with "black people" and you get a quote from the KKK as they discuss Apartheid. In this way we also reveal Femithiests own Androphobia, bigotry, oppressiveness and sexism

…They will live out their lives happily and safely…

…At least until they dare step into the majority female sector and then things will be decidedly less happy. The only way to prevent that is with a totalitarian police society…and then nobody is happy. Wishful thinking at its best.

…and male disposability will be a thing of the past…

Says the person who's all for male disposability a few quotes up

If technology has not advanced to a point where labour can be done without men, the few men that are necessary for said labour will be allowed to work on the outside of the reservations to complete whatever tasks necessary--if they wish.

Implications are strong here. She apparently expects technology will advance to a point where labour can be done without men. Strangely enough, this will only obsolete men and not women.

Note her use of 'allow' too. The few remaining men deemed useful by women, out of the rest of the worthless sperm donors will be allowed to work and function in a co-existent society. Just make sure your society visa is checked at the gates and don't get caught looking at any women for too long

Not as slaves, simply as workers performing a duty, in the same way workers today do. Only without the need for monetary reimbursement as they would have no need for such a thing. This would be highly monitored and regulated.

So….slavery?

The purpose of living is merely to persist and perpetuate our species. If someone is willing to give you all you require to survive and live comfortably, simply because you exist, then you have already achieved all that truly matters.

Pardon me Femithiest, but I think what you mean to say is: "the purpose of men is to merely persist and perpetuate our species". I know you mean that. Because men are so worthless in your eyes that we should just be complacent with a utterly meaningless existence as expendable drones where we do nothing of our own accord or freedom. Men are so useless that simply existing is all we can ever hope to amount to, isn't it? So that's all we should ever do in your perfect society. Feed off your bottles until we stop making sperm. It's not like we aspire to live more than that, right? It's not like freedom is mans greatest aspiration or anything

Children should be raised communally and by the state.

Mothers don't have a say or anything?

The nuclear family model is a breeding ground of deceptions, mediocrities, treacheries, hypocrisy, and violence. It needs to be abolished.

So are communal schools. But its neither that nor family models that need to be abolished. How about targeting the real reasons for deceptions, mediocrities, treacheries, hypocrisy, and violence? Poor education. Fear. Bullying, corrupt politics, corrupt business, poor family guidance/support and radical social justice warriors.

Perfect girls will be conceived, developed, and engineered in state-owned breeding centers.

Must be a fan of Gattica

Okay this is getting too long. I'm just going to stop here. Overall she advocates teaching equality in schools but in a society where none exists. Being male or female in her society is the difference between human and animal and goes even further that it does now to ensure one fails. She expects all women will be superiority engineered interbreeding lesbians that take all the potential while men sit on their asses until they wither away and vanish. Under her smiling proposal for fair and productive existence for both sexes is a desire for only one to exist.

And even if that did happen, the war of sexes would still continue between butch and fem lesbians. Humans never change

10/10, got me mad.

Then again, in the grand world of Poe's Laws, I kind of suspected this would come about. I mean, she already smashed her image and credibility with 'Men's Castration Day' (@BSoD She did originally wanted it to be taken seriously, but then she changed her mind at the moment people didn't take well to it from what I read on her blog.).

Since Blue Screen of Death already has a rant which explains everything, hopefully we can forget her rants and ramblings and hope to god that child of hers is taken away from that pile of maddened flesh and bone.

As always, it comes down to a difference in what people think the meaning of life and the point of society is. Most people think that individuality and being able to have control of your own life is the most important. Though I don't understand why logically having mostly women would be better, if we use genetic engineering like she said we could just edit out a lot of aggressive tendencies that men may have. And just to be clear, I don't agree with her at all, she's loco in the coco.
Also, >getting mad over opinions on the internet.

Apparently, yaoi is a feminist issue: link here

I'm tired of misogyny being misused so goddamn often. For example, If a man nonchalantly claims men are stronger than women, he is most likely doing it because it boosts his ego and not because he hates/dislikes women for being "physically inferior". Claiming women should learn how to cook to be a good housewife is a just a heavily conservative view. If one says a man should be the head of the house and protect his family, is that not misandry?

Things like supporting rape or docking pay because of their gender are the right things to associate with misogyny. The more misogyny is misused, the more it creates the misconception that every acts of sexism are fueled by aggressive beliefs.

Not even fap material is safe.

Hmm, I'm reminded of a popular term in the 50s: "Separate but equal" I'm sure you all can guess why that's not really a thing anymore.

Apparently, yaoi is a feminist issue: http://nijikon.net/?p=79

No, media targeted at females is a feminist issue, and has been basically always. Yaoi just happens to fall into that subject. The permeation of yaoi themes in an originally male-dominated market is a very interesting subject when talking about such a big issue in feminism. I'm not seeing why this is so silly or ridiculous to you, it's a very interesting subject matter.

I’m tired of misogyny being misused so goddamn often. For example, If a man nonchalantly claims men are stronger than women, he is most likely doing it because it boosts his ego and not because he hates/dislikes women for being “physically inferior”. Claiming women should learn how to cook to be a good housewife is a just a heavily conservative view. If one says a man should be the head of the house and protect his family, is that not misandry?

Things like supporting rape or docking pay because of their gender are the right things to associate with misogyny. The more misogyny is misused, the more it creates the misconception that every acts of sexism are fueled by aggressive beliefs.

I think it's very debatable what counts as misogyny/misandry. There's a sliding scale here, there's not some clear cut way of saying what is/isn't either of those things. And I personally think both of your examples are examples of misogyny. He said women are inherently week to boost his ego? So what? That still means he purposefully insulted a woman/women and made general statements about a gender. If he were in a serious discussion and made the point that men are inherently physically stronger than women (which is true) that would not count as misogyny, but in your example he used it as an insult. And saying "The gays should not be having sex with those of the same gender or getting married" is also a heavily conservative view, but that doesn't mean it's not homophobic. Limiting the capabilities of a person's life choices based on gender and saying people of a certain gender should only do certain things is textbook sexism. And to be fair, I do believe the thinking that a man needs to be the "head of the house" and main provider of his family is also sexist.

And saying sexism is fueled by aggressive beliefs is still right. It's not 100% true in every case of sexism, but it's a big part of it.

I tried linking an article, but I'll just paste it here:

I’d love to know what others think about this, too._"

As for the article i talked about that earlier in this thread.

" i think a lot of people tend to point out places where feminists will be sexist’s. But the point is is that what those people are doing is not feminism. And I know people will bring up the no true Scotsman fallacy. But the difference is is that feminism is an ideology. Feminism is defined as the advocacy of women’s rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men. Anyone and i mean anyone who does or says anything different is not a feminist because their words and actions do not fall in place with the ideology"

tl;dr, if what they do doesn't meet the guidelines for feminism then it aint feminism.

Like everyone has said before me, it's not feminism in itself that I have problems with. It's the radical misandrists that say all men are evil rapists/should be castrated and the like which really makes me rage. Things which feminism regularly espouses such as removing the taboo of breastfeeding, equal pay for women, women being able to dress how they want and work where they want, eliminating various societal double standards, eliminating objectification in the media. Abortion's a grey area for me. I'm not a religious person but I think that if the child was conceived by a consensual relationship and there is no major threat posed to the health of the woman or child (say a severe genetic disorder or a serious birth defect) then the child should be carried out to full term. And if say the mother does not have the resources to effectively care for the child, then maybe put it up for adoption, or enlist help from family members in raising the child. Sorry if I went off on a tangent but I wanted to explain my position.
Another thing about feminism is that it should care about sexism and double standards against men (it is after all about gender equality) but it usually doesn't at least from what I've seen. For example the belief that men shouldn't be emotional and don't need to ask for help. This can be really destructive since when serious problems arise such as mental illness, many men end up not seeking help until the problem becomes unmanageable when it could have been tackled much earlier (this may be why women are diagnosed with depression more often than men, men just hide it more often. Just my opinion). Also there is much more backlash to boys and men holding interests in "feminine" things than girls and women who like "masculine" things. For example, a boy who likes to play with dolls, dislikes rough games, likes fashion design, is very neat and meticulous and likes to gossip would raise many more eyebrows than a girl who dresses in baggy jeans and a t-shirt, plays sports like soccer and basketball, isn't afraid to get dirty, and has a messy room. There's also the issue of male rape and abuse, with such BS as women can't rape men. Also, men hurting women is seen as a serious offense (and rightfully so) while when women hurt men, the man is usually criticized for being weak, a fag, etc. instead of being treated seriously like it is when the roles are reversed.
If I don't make myself clear, please tell me. Sometimes I don't do well with words.

@Derpy McHerpy

I tried linking an article,

Let me help you out there

As for the article. It comments that Nerd culture is largely male dominated. I was gonna say something about that. But when I thought about it. I think the article actually has a point.

Nerd Culture does cater a lot to the interests of men even though there is probably a lot of women in it too. A lot more things in nerd culture are typically viewed as guy things. Tanks, cars, robots, guns, monsters, dinosaurs, sci-fi etc. Women can enjoy that stuff too but there's not so much stuff that caters specifically to the interests of women.

Having more content producers recognize and engage women in nerd culture is a good step forward, although I'm thinking a bigger issue is mens attitudes in Nerd culture.

A lot of nerds still hold mysogynistic views. I should know because I hang out with so many.

I'm talking about those neckbeards who chase ladies out of fandoms with their fedoras. The ones that show a lot of disgruntlement towards ladies because they could never score. Those guys.

It's those types of people who want to believe that their nerd culture is their super awesome exclusive treehouse where no girls are allowed; who are the ones making a bad impression on nerd culture as a whole and making the whole domain appear as a male-centric macho stronghold for the insecure.

If that's the case then it's understandable how the article author may view yaoi as a final standing bastion of female geekery. The neckbeards don't touch that stuff.

Mind you, Yaoi isn't a female-only thing. Just like all the other aspects of nerd culture were never male-only things. Some guys like cute japanese boys with nice hair too.

@BSoD:
Indeed, the problems with nerd culture feeling "male-dominated" mostly lie in the people within the culture rather than the content producers themselves. Even though a lot of content is easily accessible to all genders society has a nasty habit of taking something gender neutral and putting the "masculine" label on it. I think and greatly hope that content producers putting more female-oriented things into media geared more to men will make good steps in quieting down the neckbeards and making them learn that, yes, women do belong in your fandom. It's hopeful, but it's something

Mind you, Yaoi isn’t a female-only thing. Just like all the other aspects of nerd culture were never male-only things. Some guys like cute japanese boys with nice hair too.

Ah, yes, nobody can get enough of yaoi hands

!!

Dat yaoi anatomy

dat acromegaly

Looks up acromegaly

acromegaly

Congratulations, you just said the word of the DAAAAAAY!!!

so wehen the author says that females find fighting &c. not entirely satisfying, would females rather ahve simon and viral talk about their feelings and engage in hot prison sex, instead of a prison fight and acknowledgeing their honor &shit?
i mean, yeah, ther is a lot of anime that gives me the creeps when it comes to fanservice for male viewers, i usually watch anime with my sister and whenever an especially unnecessary scene like that comes up there's that [rollseyes] moment we both go through, but yeah, what does an anime look like that appeals to male and female viewers likewise? there's a lot of josei and shojo i actually like, but don't these tend to depict dated gender roles?

Regarding anime/manga something to keep in mind is that the produced content is based on the population, the higher user base resides in males from 12-17 years old, that why ecchi and shonen are so common, its no surprise that the female audience feels displaced.

Videogames are more neutral in content but his community is way more harsher, most gamer girls tend to hide their gender to avoid problems.

Hmmmm.

I have heard of many things associated with nerd culture.

But erotic homosexual porn/erotic fiction from japan is a new one. . . .

The concept of hatred has become more complicated than it ever should have been.

Funny how popular shonen like Naruto and Attack on Titan have developed a huge female user base that melds perfectly with the males.

Well if you compare a modern shonen anime like naruto to an old school one like DBZ there is a huge difference. also old values are losing presence so the female audience can like the "male" things without being criticized that much.

I'm curious about what otaku girls thinks about ecchi and hentai, considering a lot of them seems to be pretty degrading toward women heh.

I’m curious about what otaku girls thinks about ecchi and hentai, considering a lot of them seems to be pretty degrading toward women heh.

Let me answer that for you. On the subject of hentai: I'm pretty sure whatever feelings a girl will have towards regular porn (which will definitely differ depending on which woman you ask) will translate to their feelings with hentai as well. Personally, I really don't care about the degrading aspect. That's what porn is, and in my opinion that's half the fun of it. Expecting porn to be anything else is rather silly. For ecchi I think just about any female otaku will agree it's just an obnoxious waste of space that unfortunately plagues way too much anime. I'm not sure how many of us would get "offended" by it, but it's just one of those things that makes the show uncomfortable to watch especially when you know that part of the show is specifically meant for audience members that aren't you. There are times that ecchi has its place but usually it's just tasteless.

Disclaimer: I don't speak for the entire female population, I'm just saying my own thoughts.

interesting, I was especially referring to hentai because most of them contain rape, humiliation and male dominance, whereas normal porn it's just sex or some kind roleplay that both parts agree to do it.

It's porn.

Or more specifically, smutty Japanese animated porn.

It's not there to be critiqued on wether or not it depicts degraded woman, it's there to be wanted furiously at with speeds which rival that of a American spy plane. It is usually worse in 'normal' porn if you want to go down that degradation road since they use real actors whom are paid or incredibly willing to go through those processes.

well since this is still open you guys wanna discuss this gamer gate shit here? Or do you feel that this is less of a feminist issue and more of a gamer issue?

@Triple

The whole gamergate issue sounds pretty polarised to me, so I guess it depends on who you talk to. Some will assert that this is a case of a feminist attacking gamers or gamers attacking a feminist.

I don't have an opinion on who's at fault here, so I'll go by the logic that gamergate is more of an issue concerning gamers rather than feminists since it involves the whole gamer community and gaming journalism, but only the actions of a single feminist who may or may not have acted based on feminist philosophy.

Thus I attest that gamegate discussion belongs in the gamergate thread and not here

But you could discuss feminism in relation to Zoe Quinn and her philosophies

As someone who was a child survivor of Ceausescu's bullshit and a 1st gen immigrant, I have had more upper-middle class white women whose fathers have positions of power tell me I'm privileged than there are pictures of cute animals on here.

I've fought for equality my whole life; was bullied for it in middle and high school for calling buttholes out on their poop and have been sexually assaulted by a self-proclaimed radfem.

This is why I'm not a feminist, because I do not believe that the vast majority really want equality. I identify as an equalist now, simply to wash my hands of the bad connotations. But hey – feminists call me an asshole for using that word too! So there's that.

It is more of a gamin issue then a feminist issue, since the Gamergate shit is more of a big battle between 'social justice' warriors vs very angry gamers. self proclaimed feminists are apart of the issue definitely, but not a sole attacker, because you have issues of we gamers being evil racist white straight christian men (the most oddly specific kind).

A great thing to talk about is the idiocy of 'sexism in games'. Like having big boobs and 'lacking' strong female characters (despite the fucking fact Blizzard's very existence destroys this fact five fold because of characters like Kerrigan or Jaina or essentially whatever).

My whole argument is that it doesn't really matter what anyone does with their games, they can degrade women all they want until the cows come home. But it doesn't matter because NO ONE with half a brain is going the base their perception of the world on a fucking video game.

Hmmmm, is there anything new we can talk about?

I'd love to here some of the people on the gamergate page what they think of feminism. I bet they would have some interesting thoughts on feminism.

[Incoherent rage]

(I still think it's unfair to associate actual feminists (i.e. those in favour of equality) with SJW sociopaths.)

"what those people are doing is not feminism"
Thank. to the. You.

The rest of your comment:
You pretty much summed up on why I call myself a feminist. It's a movement deep rooted in history and has a meaningful message. All of these fucking tumblr SJWs are slandering it's good name __
Or at least that's what I see

Edit: ..I just noticed this comment was posted more than a month ago…….
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I'm new to the forum alright?

Uhhhhhhhhhhh…

Poe's Law? PLEASE be Poe's Law! No one in the entire universe can be this mind-fuckingly stupid! Also, that pretty much is not rape by definition since rape means non-consensual sex and she consented to sex.

I don't think your an asshole for not wanting to be labeled a feminist. I can understand why people can feel really uncomfortable with it. The media has done a good job of doing that over the years.

Even though I do feel that if you are for gender equality, that makes you a feminist. You should be allowed to call yourself whatever you want. However, equalism is in fact not the same thing as feminism.
It's a term that umbrellas all sorts of equality affiliations. So when you talk about it, you're not talking about just gender equaity. Feminism is gender equality ( I sound like Lady Satsuki now), but it really is about equality of the sexes. Not just about women.

I dunno man, there are girls out there that act like this. Trust me. I went to High School

I disagree. The definition of feminism is "Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, cultural, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment."

Stuff like "If you want gender equality you're a feminist." this doesn't sit well with me because it is simply false and a trick into getting people to call themselves feminists. What angers me is when feminists argue that by only supporting equalism you are downplaying womens issues. This is simply not the case. When feminists argue "It's not just about women." and "Supporting feminism mean you support equality" they are wrong. By definition feminism doesn't mean gender equality.

There is this false belief that feminism is bringing up women to put them on the same level as men. This may sound like gender equality but the key part is that both men and women have social advantages and disadvantages. Giving women all the advantages men have then puts them equal in terms of advantages, but not disadvantages. For example, say women got equal pay and there was nothing that gave them a disadvantage so all the slut shaming and expectations are gone. This then gives women more advantages then men because they have the same benefits as men without the problems that come with it. That's not gender equality. If they are a feminist they fight for that which is equality in some aspects but overall. If self proclaimed feminists are fighting for men and women to be treated the exact same more or less and to have gender equality they aren't a feminist, they are an equalist.

Funnily enough many feminists do the exact same thing by arguing that they are synonymous but they are not, so when they tell you that if you're an equalist you are a feminist, they either have gotten the terms mixed up or they are lying to you by saying they are the same.

Stuff like “If you want gender equality you’re a feminist.”

This contradicts your earlier quote:

The definition of feminism is “Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, cultural, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment.”

You assume that women may have equal advantages and disadvantages to men. That is simply not the case today, no matter what you think, no matter which paper you may hold contesting the pay gap, rape culture and everything else. Feminism IS gender equality. This doesn't mean the ideology wants to push an agenda on how there are no differences at all between genders. No, I don't think the least extremists of genderqueer pansexual furries with Hitler as a headmate would believe that. There are stereotypes associated with each gender and they are not wrong until someone else uses it to downgrade, shame and prevent someone from living or ascending the social/economical ladder.
That's what Feminism (not the extremist ones) fights against : Abuse of stereotypes on gender roles, issues on rape, abuse, slander and harassment based on one's gender. The thing is, I would be the first one to be glad that a campaign is made to include everyone on these issues, to show the world that Feminism does care about female and MALE issues as well, but a common upsetting answer is always that Feminism has to gain momentum step by step and focuses first on more glaring issues, thus female ones. They don't leave male issues behind, they just have to first deal with problems faced by a majority.
A majority of women gets harassed in the streets, a majority of women has to face stereotypes daily. Men, and I can be the first to attest of it and comment on it, also face stereotypes, sexist remarks and slander, but that doesn't invalidate anything.

Obviously, though, I'm talking of the true feminists like myself. Those who go and protest with people in slutwalks, those who participate in events and who can still have a discussion about men issues.
I'm not talking about the most extremists of SJWs and Tumblr "Feminists". As TripleA said, the "No True Scottman" fallacy doesn't apply when trying to make a distinction between those whose actions are not helping the Feminism movement at all and seem to push an agenda of inequality towards men and/or women, and those who fight for the "right" causes.

I think that is mostly based in typical name stealing, the act of stealing a cool sounding 'good' name because you want to convince people you are for the right cause, like how the 'People's' Party often ends up seeking the enslavement and mass murder of the people.

Just like that, a bunch of closet sexists, racists, and god knows what to call these people often proclaim themselves champions of social justice by demanding a complete reversal on trying to base society not on the merit of one's own skill and more on what color your skin is or what kind of bottom parts you have.

So we were standing in a rather large line at my local Wal-Mart today behind a couple bio-clans that my headmates and I know from when we were forced to attend a patriarchal reinforcing indoctrination gathering with my bio-body's bio-clan in a previous unit of space-time. It was the only register open so there wasn't much of another option to get our 12 pack of organic vegan chemical free anti-oppression juice for trans-radical feminist rally we were heading to. We were wondering why the line was going nowhere when Eugene, who was fronting, decided to poke his head up front to see what the holdup was. It was a little old genderfluid wolfkin who didn't have enough for xir groceries and xi was trying to talk the cashier into letting xir get away with being short. This struck us as odd until Eugene found out xir was a mere $0.21 short of her purchase. Now all these bioclans were just staring and there was even two making rape jokes towards xir. I walked up and handed my anti-misogynistic juice to the cashier, handed xim a $5 and told xir to keep the change. One of the middle aged selfoppressing misogynistic binary female (Dave, a dracokin, knew these people, so we also knew that they all make over 6 digits) grabbed her kid and yelled very loudly, "See that woman? She's acting just like Jesus wants us to." For good reason this set us off, so Eugene turned us around. We haven't shaved in awhile so we're rocking some nice scruff on our legbeards, an shirt that proudly proclaimed "men = rape", and androgynous legclothes with a hole for our tails, so it must have been a nice sight. Very loudly, I fronted again and said "Like Jesus? Ma'am, We're a transfluidic multiple system buskins who is oppressed by our parental units who don't give us enough money and we were the one who stepped up to help her? Your hypocritical Christianity is an inspiration to us all." As we stormed out, a couple of the cart bois started to whistle and cheer, soon shoppers joined in and even the cashier. We gave a wave and went off with a feeling of accomplishment, knowing that rape had been avoided.

A white heteronormative cisgendered CEO professor and Baptist preacher was teaching a class on Karl Rove, known Christian.
“Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Jesus Christ and accept that you too can become straight through daily prayer, self-flagellation, and eating Chik-Fil-A every day!”
At this moment, a brave, trans-Asian, self-diagnosed pansexual demiromantic vegan multisouled person who had been free of all animal products and only bought products at the local transgender co-op boldly stood up, holding a glass filled with some white liquid.
“Hey, Professor, what is this?”
The arrogant professor smirked like a rapist and smugly replied “It’s clearly milk, you crazy faggot. What the fuck does milk have to do with political science?”
“Wrong. It’s an all natural vegan soy almond kombucha latte. No animals or transpeople were harmed or raped in the making of this product.”
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of the Wall Street Journal. He stormed out of the room, clearly planning some kind of rape. The professor realized that he had been playing into the hands of the kyriarchy of CEOs, investment bankers, the Religious Right, and psychiatrists. He then killed himself. The proper term for this is “trans-dead”.
The students checked their privilege, all diagnosed themselves with autism and gender identity disorder and joined the Gay-Straight Alliance. An obese trans-eagle furry otherkin waddled into the room and tried to perch upon the American Flag, bending the flagpole in the process. All parties involved gave up meat, Christianity, and the right to bear arms.
The students all lifted their glasses of soy fluid in a toast.
“That beverage’s name? Harvey “The One Percent” Milk.” said the vegan trans-autistic Korean.