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Another day, another mass shooting, and another inevitable debate about gun control.

sigh

Can't access this link.

Strange, it's working just fine for me.

How about this one?

It seems the motive was the shooter lost a match and he couldn't accept the defeat.

People of the press and Twitter are already making this a matter of race because the first person who got shot was black and the shooter a stereotypical white psycho and blaming Gamergate.

Sigh…

I wonder why Twitter didn't bother to ban him

A single mass shooter out of literally millions of gamers proves the gaming community is festering with dangerous extremists how exactly?

Can we at least wait until we know what happened, who did it, and why they did it before we start blaming millions of people and shouting for political change? No? We have to be an emotional mob shouting the same shit without even looking at what went wrong, thus guaranteeing that no change will happen? Ok cool.

"Can we at least wait until we know what happened, who did it, and why they did it before we start blaming millions of people and shouting for political change?"

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/08/26/liberal-tolerance-in-progress-literally-hundreds-of-people-are-calling-dana-loesch-a-cnt-after-the-jacksonville-shooting/

Yeah, no.

I'm not sure what to… do about it but someone linked the stream clip in a group chat minutes after it happened without letting anyone know what…

I watched someones last moments and heard their death cries out of no where…

I… feel really messed up.

Like I know that there are very, very few places in the recent years that aren't safe in the US from Mass Shootings, and often in places that even the most biggest lovers of guns would want to bring a gun to out of paranoia since they're places that you want to relax in, but this is getting nuts now.

Like pretty elementary schools, high schools, universities, concerts, churches, clubs, military bases, cinemas, business places, and now a bloody video game tournament.

I am so not looking forward to the debates about this that will go nowhere and which either side don't really have practical and effective measures to deal with these mass shooting. Seriously, could look at what Switzerland does and see if there are elements in how they handle this that maybe it can be applied to the US like actual trained and professional militia instead of the walking jokes of militia that I keep hearing of who couldn't overthrow a bar nevermind a fucking government military force that has plenty of times in the past steamrolled far more competent and less equipped enemies than those pathetic jokes.

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Just remember that driving to those places are still hundreds of times more deadly than actually being there and being killed by a shooter.

@Rustic If it makes you feel better, the chances of you getting killed in a mass shooting is ridiculously low, far less than dying in a car accident, so there is no need to fear public places anymore than getting into a car. But if you want to make the inevitable debate smoother, don't try and compare the situation in the US to that of Switzerland. Between the Second Amendment, state laws and the sheer number of guns in the US not being approached by any other country, the gun situation in the US is quite unique, so things that work in other countries won't just work here if transplanted.

I had pictured that the place would have those scanners by now.

Like it still feels so fucking surreal when I went to Orlando, Florida and saw how they had those scanners right before you went into any theme parks.

Those weren't a thing back in 2008, and yet the roads there has plenty of scrap on the sides of them from people who've gotten killed in car accidents. Thanks in large part to the infamous I-4 highway. They should nickname it the Deathway since there seems to be so plenty of crashes that they clean up crews can't get all the car parts.

If it makes you feel better, the chances of you getting killed in a mass shooting is ridiculously low, far less than dying in a car accident, so there is no need to fear public places anymore than getting into a car. But if you want to make the inevitable debate smoother, don't try and compare the situation in the US to that of Switzerland. Between the Second Amendment, state laws and the sheer number of guns in the US not being approached by any other country, the gun situation in the US is quite unique, so things that work in other countries won't just work here if transplanted.

I know that it is unique for the US compared to Switzerland since the latter has mandatory service in the military for any men able to do it as well as a unified attitude against invaders rather than their own government, and have tight gun regulations by the US standards. Still feels like the US' situation could at least be improved by some little improvements like better militia who don't feel like they're loose cannons who are more dangers to themselves and everyone around them than the government (admittedly I heard that one is as complicated).

We really need common sense gun laws, such as increased background checks. No, I do not want to ban all guns. Few people do. I just want the country I love to be safe and be the butt of one less joke.
Oh, and ignore Tariq Nasheed. I used to think that he had good intentions but was poor at expressing them or just was a bit of a troll, but it has become obvious that he is just in it for money.

Where's David Hogg when we need him?

What may be common sense for one may be stupid as hell to another, and we don't properly do the background checks we have in place now, how are we to expect increases to actually increase?

>inb4 people were concerned about his behavior but didn't do anything to either raise red flags or help him with his mental issues

Ryumaru Borike said:

Can we at least wait until we know what happened, who did it, and why they did it before we start blaming millions of people and shouting for political change?

Of course not. First, you have to assume the person's a member of an ethnic/religious/political group you don't like, using every shred and "clue" there is to support your idea. Then, you politically leverage the tragedy for everything its worth--bonus points if you start before a death count has been officially released. Finally, once everyone has moved on to the next Trump twitter shitpost, you add it to the pile of statistics you'll deploy during an online argument about something.

American Ronin said:

We really need common sense gun laws, such as increased background checks.

If you want to decrease gun violence, more background checks really won't do much. Mass shooters usually either legally purchase their guns (thus, completing the background check) or steal them from someone who legally purchased them. Most handgun crimes (which make up the bulk of gun violence) occurs with illegally acquired guns, so more background checks wouldn't really help in that regard, either.

Community-centered actions to decrease gang affiliation and economic aid to poverty-stricken areas would be the most likely solutions for general gun violence. For mass shootings, detecting common early warning signs, increased access to mental health help, and the media not hyping up mass shootings and giving the shooters infamy would probably do wonders.

As I said during the last gun control debate, most gun control efforts are trying to solve the symptoms, not actually address the root causes of the disease.

For the user above: the shooter apparently HAD a girlfriend, actually, and was also a liberal. At least from what emerged from his Reddit and Twitter accounts.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3wv9pc/labtop_for_girlfriend/

While I appreciate the effort, given how he unironically uses Gamer Joker terms we should asssume it's a shitpost. Lemme pull a mod card instead.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2hzkfwy.png

You can't just get this mad for losing a Madden match.
For sure he probably stole daddy's gun on the shelf without getting caught and then he went to the tourney. Is like he knew he was gonna lose or something and decided to disappear from the face of the earth with "style". He deserves a burial and a grave, maybe some people will vandalize the latter.

Seems like Kiwifarms have grown tired of the mass shootings

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/never-again.47038/

Seems like they want to make sure that the mass shooters, dead or alive, get the attention and legacy that they likely didn't wish for and discourage who think it sounds cool to do or solve their problems from trying by showing how they will be humiliated either alive or dead if they do.

I disagree. I believe that mass shooters shouldn’t even be named, much less show their faces. They want any kind of attention that they can, whether positive or negative. Mocking them will just give their lawyers an extra weapon to use in court. Don’t treat them like the weird kid in school; treat them like an animal that must be put down soon.

I do feel that focusing on the victims should be more important than the killers, and certainly, the latter should not be given any attention since one of the worse things you can do to somebody is ignore them as if they don't exist.

Although focusing on the victims can and does have the problem of what if the victims just want privacy and to be left alone to deal with the traumatic event.

Not sure if I can agree with Kiwifarm's stance but it is understandable given how it is in-line with how they do things and are like everyone else at this point with mass shootings: looking for any solution that they can think of to stop or reduce them.

If the gaming community is a hotbed of extremists and violent sociopaths, then the School System must be a fucking swirling black hole of death worship, slavery, and genocide, given the amounts of shootings occuring in one, versus this singular incident. And the black community

I think its very clear that Tariq is one of those people who either doesn't think when they talk, likes to make deep yet actually very shallow points in knee-jerk trumpian fashion, or is just one of these drama channels throwing molotov cocktails onto any fire to get some extra attention.

This. I do believe the news plays part in creating new shootings, so I suggest that there should be a law of sorts that states TV news outlets of any kind should not mention the shooter in any way, shape, or form. Instead they should focus on the victims and what can be done to prevent this tragedy from happening again. I'm usually not one for news censorship, but if this can contribute to stopping mass shootings then I'm all for it.

@Eris First Amendment shoots down that law in a second.

Giving the victims the focus and attention would be a thousand times better than giving attention and focus to killers. I remember seeing a *video that dwelled on public shootings and to tl;dr it all: if the news were to focus solely on the killer, they'd end up giving an idea to some people that would only act as fuel for this unwanted fire.

*Link for the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3VQULyT390

Regardless of one's stance on KiwiFarms and KiwiFarms itself, a whole lot of us really would want a resolution to all these shootings.

As for those wondering why that Tariq guy butts in on this sort of thing, one can only guess he's the sort of guy who just wants to butt in and get attention while screeching out whatever garbage he says. It wouldn't be surprising for all his tweets being nothing more than attempts at getting likes and attention.

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