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After a recent thread discussing the differences between the comment section and the forums, some users made good points like the fact a lot of commenters aren't even aware of the forums existence.

I think we should consider the pros and cons, and possibly how much of a necessity it may or not be, as well how to encourage forum use.

Personally I see potential benefits of encouraging forum use:

- More active forums, while not really a massive benefit in itself, KYMs "dead" forums could see some real use and sitewise it could lead to more Meme Research threads and could provide information and I could see a possible replacement for the "Suggest a Change" button, as the suggestions could be there
- Possibly a more tighter-knit community, which in turn would make more out of community threads, a better community may draw more people in and add that little tiny bit extra to site traffic
- Users that may be causing a bit of trouble in the comments, may change once they visit the part of the site with better moderation, or they may just shitpost in Riff-Raff where they may cause less trouble and enjoy the relatively lax rules

I can't really see any obvious negatives, other than it may be extremely hard to pull off.

A little idea I thought about is maybe just having a little text box above the comment section, with a message like "Not enough writing room, or want to discuss this meme/subculture/person in general? Why not check out here Have you got some research or want to suggest a change? Click here

Yeah, on the one hand, I completely agree, I really can't see any downsides. We get a lot of activity in the comments, especially in comparison to our, let's be fair here, kinda dead forums. Getting that user count boosted up would be fantastic.

On the other hand though, like you said, it's hard to pull off. We tried to get GG and MLP to migrate to the forums with mixed results, even more so with other subcultures, but even then a lot of them kinda stuck to their threads and didn't explore the rest of the boards. Plus lets be frank, Riff-Raff still doesn't have the greatest reputation in the comments, so that's a problem in itself.

Only ways I can see this happening is if we promote general threads more prominently within subculture entries, which honestly I don't think will make more of a difference unless we actively force it, or have more frontpaged threads, which is a thing we've tried before but tapered off extremely quickly.

Honestly if we could find a good way to encourage forum use I'd be completely up for helping it, I'd love to see some more activity here. Hell, it might even start to improve some of the problems we have with the attitudes in the comments maybe.

The only negative I could see is getting users actually interested in posting on the forums. I think a good amount of the comment sections is good where they are already. You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

Frontpaging threads more often can attract viewers to the forum.

Currently Ari and I will frontpage the weekly photoshop thread, but outside of that we can't exactly frontpage 90% Riff-Raff etc.

The staff at times does feature a "Discuss" banner on the frontpage to promote discussion of a notable event going on. However, those banners mostly link to images and then promote the discussion in the comment section of that image (or its entry). Instead those frontpages could go perfectly as General or SD threads. Tbh, I don't really get why they don't, it's like they're intentionally ignoring the existance of the forum.

It doesn't ask users to use the entire forum, but it does promote its existence for the interested parties.

A little idea I thought about is maybe just having a little text box above the comment section, with a message like "Not enough writing room, or want to discuss this meme/subculture/person in general? Why not check out here Have you got some research or want to suggest a change? Click here

Liking this one yo. Rewrite it a bit but hey it does the job.

I can’t really see any obvious negatives, other than it may be extremely hard to pull off.

Worst that can really happen is a sudden influx of forum users who don't necessarily get our forum culture, which may create chaos.

Edit: Yeah, like Rapscallion said above but differently.

Sure, advertise the forums to the /pol/ people currently occupying the site comments, then we can truly appreciate both sides of the political spectrum's extremes. The only real positive I see to this is it working as an entrapment scheme.

More people posting here actively would be great, but of the people in the site comments who don't already, who do you think is most likely to come here and preach? & I don't want to imagine the state of everybody's karma in a month if people start approaching it here like the site commenters do.

& I don’t want to imagine the state of everybody’s karma in a month if people start approaching it here like the site commenters do.

Bring it on sukkah!

Sure, advertise the forums to the /pol/ people currently occupying the site comments, then we can truly appreciate both sides of the political spectrum’s extremes. The only real positive I see to this is it working as an entrapment scheme.

The main thing that promotes that behavior in the comments is the echo chamber. In the forum, that echo chamber is suddenly gone, to a point that they'll find more people against it than in favor. At the very least it'll be interesting to see how confident they then feel about their baloney.

We just have to make certain /pol/ stuff is redirected to General + Serious Debate. At best, those that find themselves relying on a "SJW" insult will leave and those that actually are interested in more arguments will stay. At worst, what you said yeah.

But that's just some optimism. It's a fair concern to understand what you'd drag into here.

Maybe the forums won't have such a niche audience this way and we'll have more variety in terms of topics and socialization. I heavily promote this idea.

I have a better concept of how to implement this:

Show the trending threads section on the front page. You only have to copy-paste the html that way AND it gives a quick access method to the trending threads for both regular and new-coming users.

I was going to mention the whole karma thing too, but I didn't want to turn a post about a genuinely good idea into another comment rant post. Who knows though, maybe a more visible effect will be enough of a kick up the ass for things to actually starting happening regarding the way the karma system currently works. Besides, since the forum is fairly more liberal in it's overall political attitudes, maybe that'll be enough to stir up a bit more debate? I doubt any forum users are going to start leaving over that, although I could see that causing a lot more post-mocking Riff Raff threads and Commenters starting to leave the forums again but er, it's worth a shot?

Show the trending threads section on the front page. You only have to copy-paste the html that way AND it gives a quick access method to the trending threads for both regular and new-coming users.

This idea, I actually really like this idea. It might not be enough on it's own, but I could definitely see it being helpful

{ We just have to make certain /pol/ stuff is redirected to General + Serious Debate. }

{ another comment rant post. }

I think it's a fair point when one is used dramatically differently than the other, and one actually shows up on your profile I keep forgetting that. That's ripe for petty revenge tactics. & we all saw what one person with two extra accounts could do to mine back when I first started posting here.

It doesn't have to be a definite no, but at the very least mods are gonna have to babysit for a couple weeks while the migrants integrate.

I think it's a trend a lot of troll and flamebait users will stick to the comments, because they can get away with it more and only need a short amount of text to be dick-ish. A lot of people will only come if forced to, and they are likely the people we don't want.

Show the trending threads section on the front page. You only have to copy-paste the html that way AND it gives a quick access method to the trending threads for both regular and new-coming users.

This idea, I actually really like this idea. It might not be enough on it’s own, but I could definitely see it being helpful

I actually don't like the idea for the simple reason that the trending topics don't specify the boards.

Riff-Raff baloney and in-joke threads are frequently found there. Any unsuspecting individual would find himself confused and in the case of Riff-Raff mock threads might start a shitstorm. Nobody is up for explaining the joke or Riff-Raff 500 times, and the risk will do more damage than good.

Especially when threads are parodies of others or feature confusing titles, it'll generate a false expectation.

Isn't that more a problem with the trending topics feature in general rather than this idea? It's nothing a few changes couldn't fix. Really, it would just straight up be better in general if it specified the board. I don't see how it couldn't work as long as those changes are made.

Yes Yes Yes HELL YES

Wish we could move all kind of discussions into the forums. Leaving the comment section only for small comments or entry suggestions and such.

Now that the admins are more invested into the site, frontpaging threads is a possibility and the perfect way to promote the forums. Well, one of many.

I don't really agree on frontpaging Riff Raff threads, at all. Threads from Media, General and SD foh sure, perhaps a forum game from time to time could be an interesting suggestion (Sindyc's Nations RP, for example and only if he agrees to it obviously).

Yeah I'm all for it. Some people will have a hard time getting used to the forums but it's going to be more of a "cultural" shock than anything. I'm quite positive on this actually, doesn't mean that shit won't happen but I'm sure we can handle it.

Wyn’s idea, which you followed up on, was based on “copy-paste the html”. If you update it, sure it might be more useful.

But unsuspecting individuals still wouldn’t know the difference between boards, and Riff-Raff threads could mean the same as General or Just For Fun for all they know. You don’t get to know the difference in boards until you actually visit the forum instead of just a thread.

You’re always gonna keep some risks.

I’m up for the idea of giving the forum more traffic you know that, but I think this idea has to be thought over at the very least.

Wyn certainly has the nucleus of a good idea here, surely that's worth something. Most of the boards ARE pretty self explanatory, I don't think many people will see "Riff-Raff" and think it's the serious debate board or anything. I don't know, just the idea that "People may not know the difference between boards" seems like a really weak argument to me. Even on the off-chance they don't get clued in from just the board name, I'm sure they'd understand from just seeing the content of the thread itself. Besides, Riff-Raff, which is the only thread I'd say that the confusion would arise with, already has a certain, er, reputation, among commenters. I'm sure they know what it's about.

But many will see the ironic hostile and demeaning behavior and not link it to ironic. I would totally agree with it being a weak argument if it didn't already went wrong multiple times in the past.

Wyn went overprotective on Lisa, CrashGordon called power abuse on a fake Tumblr gallery lock, various no-fap participants got upset over the parody thread, GamerGate pretty much loathed the entire board, etc. etc. Riff-Raff being misunderstood is hardly rare.

Many won't think the board is serious, sure, but at the same time many won't believe it's all in good spirits. It's just one board, but it's also amongst our most popular boards.

Yep. Let's go ahead and bring something up against me when I try suggesting an idea.

If your argument is Riff Raff can't be in trending because nobody will understand the board is for shitposting, I do not believe such an argument should thus mean there should be no trending section at all on the front page. Riff Raff is a self-explanatory title. If you believe it is not, then create a thread saying the name should be changed. Riff raff means disreputable or undesirable people. Have some basic trust in the intelligence of people, I seriously doubt this is a big enough problem to shoot down the idea on.

Let’s go ahead and bring something up against me when I try suggesting an idea.

Let me start by asking you to not derail this thread into your problems, this isn't about you.

If your argument is Riff Raff can’t be in trending because nobody will understand the board is for shitposting, I do not believe such an argument should thus mean there should be no trending section at all on the front page.

RM wrote:

I’m up for the idea of giving the forum more traffic you know that, but I think this idea has to be thought over at the very least.

RM never said the idea was bad per se, he only said that adding the "trending threads" feature onto the frontpage will highlight, mostly, Riff Raff threads since those are the most actives ones. Which will mislead people from the real objective, generate more activity on the forums by promoting all kind of discussions.

The idea itself is not bad, it only needs to be brainstormed. That's all.

Honestly I still disagree. I feel as though the whole "Riff Raff misunderstanding" situations are really being overblown here. Like yeah, it happens, but not like, every day. Those cases you brought up (Maybe besides the Wyn one) are cases where I'd say the people on the defensive were the people who felt personally affected by the (albeit nonexistent) problems, so it's understandable that they maybe overreacted the way they did. Your average new user who doesn't really know much about the site is probably going to react differently than a comment section regular, and comment section regular really should know enough about the site to know what Riff-Raff is anyway. I don't know how to phrase it, but I guess my main point is that the vast majority of Riff Raff threads that would get featured aren't ones that would cause these kind of problems you're worried about.

And really, if Riff-Raff threads showing up is that much of a concern, I guess we could make it so Riff-Raff threads don't show up? I dunno, still seems like it's making a mountain out of a molehill to me.

@RM

Tbh, I don’t really get why they don’t, it’s like they’re intentionally ignoring the existance of the forum.

The forum isn't important right now. Actually, it probably hasn't ever been important. So they're not necessarily intentionally ignoring it so much as they're giving it the attention it needs…which is little. It self-regulates and moderates, and most anything that can be done here can be done elsewhere, is done elsewhere, or will have to be brought behind scenes anyway making the forum just a "starting point."

Worst that can really happen is a sudden influx of forum users who don’t necessarily get our forum culture, which may create chaos.

Moderation will fix that. And I think someone said it later on or prior to now, but even if users were "forced" from comments (like me and various others were back when FiM was more popular,) they might stick to one General thread or just simply go back to the comments.

Riff-Raff might not even work, because mods suspend there for kicks. If you have users who have to comment every 10 minutes on something, then they're not going to want to get suspended for, what's it, 3 hours or so? They'll just stick to the comments or possibly even leave the site outright.

With regards to karma, yeah, unlike the comments, forum karma sticks. I believe most people currently active in the forums distribute negakarma for being off-topic, being too antagonistic, or otherwise being a bother. I don't mind, but it's easy for me to say. Older users could get -500 karma and still have a 90/10 Positive/Negative ratio.

@lisa

It doesn’t have to be a definite no, but at the very least mods are gonna have to babysit for a couple weeks while the migrants integrate.

Among Forum, many Senior, and Database mods, we have manpower in spades. I lurk the forums a lot, but I don't actually do much outside of a few choice topics. But if I see something that needs a mediating post, then I'll make it. There are several others, perhaps a couple dozen, who could and will do the same thing if they think they need to.

@RM

Riff-Raff baloney and in-joke threads are frequently found there. Any unsuspecting individual would find himself confused and in the case of Riff-Raff mock threads might start a shitstorm. Nobody is up for explaining the joke or Riff-Raff 500 times, and the risk will do more damage than good.

This wouldn't be an issue if we didn't have Riff-Raff in the first place I TOLD YOU WAY BACK WHEN THIS KIND OF THING WOULD HAPPEN BUT NO.

Given that we have it, yes, that's going to be a big problem. But if the aim is to get consistent traffic to the forums, then the end goal is to get new users and current, comment-specific users here on a regular basis.

Just like the stray new users who happen upon the forums, they can learn how to use the forums. We'll informally and formally warn about what and what can't happen in what boards, and they'll get the idea soon enough. It basically just means we'll have to do more moderating, but it's not like we don't have the hands for it.

Some people will have a hard time getting used to the forums but it’s going to be more of a “cultural” shock than anything. I’m quite positive on this actually, doesn’t mean that shit won’t happen but I’m sure we can handle it.

This, more or less. I see it as an initial problem for new users, but as they get more experienced with the forums, they'll adjust (or they won't, and we'll go a step or two further in moderating.)

tl;dr on the issue of newer users not getting the differences among the boards:

• They'll pick up on it. It's up to the mods to help them pick up on it. We're not ban-happy anyway, so I think what's more likely to happen is that people just decide to float back to the comments (which is where we began,) or learn and stick around (which is what we want.)

I don't think the trending topics should be on the front page. What if someone sees a camwhore thread trending on the front page and clicks on it to find someone he knows, and from there on he starts harrasing him in real life? We should only try to attract users here, not some Avarage Joe who just wants to see what's going on in the internet.

Verbs brings up a really great point I'm inclined to agree with, and links in to what I was saying earlier. Isn't it entirely possible Riff-Raff's board culture is part of the problem? Maybe if we really want to commit to this, we need to start re-examining what part Riff-Raff actually serves. Like, I'll be fair and say this is a point I never really considered myself, but we look at people being scared away from the comments and start brainstorming ways to fix it, but then we see the opposite problem of commenters being scared away from the forums and we just ignore it. That's some terrible double standards. If we really want to encourage more forum use, shouldn't we also focus on getting rid of the stigma it has against it?

I don’t think the trending topics should be on the front page. What if someone sees a camwhore thread trending on the front page and clicks on it to find someone he knows, and from there on he starts harrasing him in real life? We should only try to attract users here, not some Avarage Joe who just wants to see what’s going on in the internet.

Now that's definitely making a problem out of something that's not. That kind of problem is present whether it's on the frontpage or not, I'm certainly not up for removing a whole feature just because a single thread might be a problem. If that's really an issue that's an issue with the thread itself, not the feature.

Could we remove Riff Raff from trending topics? I feel like that's probably easier said then done, but I feel like that could be a good idea. Promoting the forums on the front page and everywhere else is a great idea, since it's very withheld and isolated from everywhere else.

I would not even try not to laugh at someone who tried to website-shame me irl.

Can't you just do 2-3 trending topics from each of the 3 major categories, and label them as such? Discussion/Media/Fun. Then people know what section of the forum the thread they're seeing is in.

{ But many will see the ironic hostile and demeaning behavior and not link it to ironic. }

Probably because it rarely is, but that's a lovely excuse ya'll keep using.

Now that’s definitely making a problem out of something that’s not. That kind of problem is present whether it’s on the frontpage or not, I’m certainly not up for removing a whole feature just because a single thread might be a problem. If that’s really an issue that’s an issue with the thread itself, not the feature.

I'm aware that could happen regardless if we put it on the front page or not, it's just that chances of something like this happening will increase even way more. Most people who go on KYM don't actually make an account here, let alone even look at the forums. And it's better off that way.

Isn’t it entirely possible Riff-Raff’s board culture is part of the problem?

I don't mind saying that the return of Blubber and the advent of Riff-Raff was a big reason of why I deactivated in the first place. I enjoyed a small forum community that wasn't "4chan-like." Because of the less restrictive rules of Riff-Raff, I knew that there was going to be a "legalization of something once illegal" effect where everyone and their grandmother wants to try weed now that it's not a crime to smoke it. Even now, most threads belong to Riff-Raff. As such, the activity in other threads dropped off (a matter we're discussing now), and we've gotten a ton more drama (which is bound to occur but is never a good thing to have a breeding ground for.)

After taking time away and lurking/alting for some months after without any powers or say-so, I think Riff-Raff does serve a purpose: creativity. Being allowed to stray off-topic more than you can even in JFF makes for some prime opportunities for off-the-cuff fun.
 
I still don't believe the lessened rules on being antagonistic is a good thing, because what someone says in Riff-Raff doesn't just go away, because it was said on some board. You can't legitimately insult a user in Riff-Raff, and not have Wyn not expect a user to take it seriously. It's basically an excuse to be an ass, and I don't think that ever serves a purpose.
Direct and blunt? Sure.
Plain rude or vicious? There's never a place for that, in my opinion.

And RandomMan discussed before that users often use RR as a catchall, in part because it's just the default "I'm bored" thread. There's no thought behind the creation of a thread. That makes things easy, but it rarely makes things fun or clever. Maybe it does. Dunno.
 
But all that said, I made that comment strictly as a joke. I'd love to see RR gone, but I'm not advocating for that here and now…or ever, really. I tried that once, and the environment wasn't hearing it. I'm not going to bother with that again until other users feel similarly. I'm not going to pretend like I'm all that active and have a great beat on the forum now.

Now that I've said that, I wasn't aware that the reputation of RR was actually keeping people from using the forums. Whether that's new users or users who comment more on entries or images, that's a pretty big problem.

In theory (as it had been suggested before,) you could just ignore Riff-Raff and the thread titles if you wanted to. But that's not practical or really possible.

1. If you look at all of the recent threads like I do, it's impossible to really ignore Riff-Raff thread titles. For example, more notorious users like Wyn or Lisa are going to see threads about them. It's like trying to ignore people obviously whispering about you. You can, but it's incredibly difficult to do. Personally, I just get tired of seeing the clickbait titles.
2. If you're not using that view of the forums, then don't you have to at least scan the Discussion, Media, and Fun! in separate tabs just to find threads you might want to participate in? If an issue (that has been brought up here) was that MLP and GG users only frequent one thread, then we should make it easy for users to access and find other threads that aren't just in one board of subforum (which is why I use the "all" view.) But you're going to see half of the Fun! board as Riff-Raff, so you're not going to be able to ignore RR.
    
   So with all that said, there's no real way to avoid any influence RR is having if it's keeping users away. I'm just surprised that users are really being repelled by it, if that is the case.

If you want more people to use the forums. Then they should remove the "trending images" and the "hot today" and place the trending forum topics there.

What if someone sees a camwhore thread trending on the front page and clicks on it to find someone he knows, and from there on he starts harrasing him in real life?

Thats the best example you could think of? You think that a random user is going to see a camwhore thread, decide to go through all the images, then see one user that looks like someone he knows and bullies them? The chances of this are slim to none (people with real lives browsing KYM?) And even if it did, why would this be our problem? It's the users choice to put a photo of themselves online, and they can request to get it deleted.

We should only try to attract users here, not some Avarage Joe who just wants to see what’s going on in the internet.

But in the end all say all, isn't everyone else here just average joes that want to see whats going on the internet? Either way this reads as unneedingly elitist, and as doesn't relate at all to the last point.

Most people who go on KYM don’t actually make an account here, let alone even look at the forums. And it’s better off that way.

More forum elitism. What are you truly afraid of Yiffer? Because I don't think it's really about getting hacked because of a photo you chose to post.

Trending images is actually useful so I'm against getting rid of that. Hot Today on the other hand I'm fine with removing, but in that case I'm assuming that was added on request of Cheez so I don't see that going. Really if it was going to be added it would have to be at the very bottom (If Hot Today really has to stay), and then there's a case to be made if it would even be useful if you had to scroll down that far to even get to it.

Well, if I'm interested in looking at trending images I just click on images at the top and I can scroll through a lot more so I don't find trending images useful. Hot Today is a waste of space. Its not like there is a shortage of viral meme websites on the internet so its stupid to have redirecting links on the side when somebody is probably scrolling down KnowYourMeme for a reason. Besides they have all the other websites in the top banner anyway.

Well for your argument against trending images, I would argue that your same exact argument could be used against all of the things on the sidebar, including the forum trending section, "If I'm interested in looking at trending threads I'd just go to the forums". I know a number of times I've seen an image I've found funny there and clicked on it, and ended up going through a bunch of new images and galleries because of it. I must admit, I'm not really a regular in the image galleries so it can be useful, and I imagine it is for others too.

Then again, this same exact argument I'm using in defence of trending images can also be used in defence of Hot Today, just cause we don't like it doesn't mean it's not useful. Hell, for all we know Hot Today is the most popular feature on the sidebar, we're only assuming, we don't have the actual stats to back it up either way.

Aren't some of you getting a bit overdramatic with the Riff-Raff though? I mean, I understand the board left its scar at times, but it's still amongst our most popular boards and something many enjoy.

If there's anything in this thread that says "No Fun Allowed", it's these implications that Riff-Raff would be best removed. Grow into your big boy pants, pussies. I'm not exactly the best person to say it after my previous posts, but whatevs.

Can’t you just do 2-3 trending topics from each of the 3 major categories, and label them as such? Discussion/Media/Fun. Then people know what section of the forum the thread they’re seeing is in.

I like this solution. If the threads are actually marked as "Fun!", then people will have less trouble understanding it's about Fun even if the name "Riff-Raff" confuses them.

I might promote the addition of Maintenance in there as well, cus it's always good to have more opinions on site stuff.

I don’t think the trending topics should be on the front page. What if someone sees a camwhore thread trending on the front page and clicks on it to find someone he knows, and from there on he starts harrasing him in real life? We should only try to attract users here, not some Avarage Joe who just wants to see what’s going on in the internet.

This one could be easily fixed with an option that disallows a thread from trending.

The staff can mark images to no longer appear in trending, which is sometimes done when things get a bit too saucy, so I know the option is already there.

I would never suggest the removal of Riff Raff, God no. Just some food for thought if anything, it's just something to consider. Also:

an option that disallows a thread from trending.

This, definitely this, 100% for this idea. Also liking the idea of it showing the major categories rather than the subforums, that would also remove a lot of problems.

I believe this would quickly discourage the use of specific forums that cannot become trending. I can guarantee I'd post less on a forum I knew was destined to never trend.

Also as for the trending section -yeah, it might confuse people in regards to Riff Raff, and it would be NICE, to have all the trending threads labelled with what forum section they're from.

But if such coding is out of the way (though such a statement gives James very little credit considering the basicness of such code), then let's just paste the html in already. At worst it causes some minor confusion in exchange for a lot more opportunities to gain CORE users and have the forums be more regularly used. I'd take that exchange any day of the week AND the admins and us can always collaborate on fixing the issues later. Forums are, of course, the best way to gain core users that DON'T leave, meaning they're regularly posting content, improving the site, and talking about it, so there's a lot more pros than cons to this idea.

I'm fairly well convinced at this point if nothing else, the code should be put in place already. It can be altered as the issues arise, which are honestly going to be minor and few in number from what I've read in this thread.

James has removed boards from the trending section before (The Council), so this isn't something that's out of his range, FYI.

whoa, KYM has a forum. Been coming here for years and never noticed.

Anecdotally, that is hilariously relevant.

I wouldn't mind a more active forum, but keep in mind that regardless of the political affiliation of its userbase, things can turn quite toxic quickly as the population of a board grows.

At the very least, before we start trying to court more users to join the forums, I'd like there to be some mechanism in place (if at all possible) to prevent karma brigading. Now, if KYM's userbase isn't like Reddit's userbase in that regard, then it ultimately won't be necessary. However, I don't want to make a comment that is out of line of somebody's political agenda, and then have that user and fifty of their friends and/or sockpuppets go through all my forum comments and downvoting them.

IIRC, the main purpose of the "you can only vote once every five seconds" thing was preventing brigading. It doesn't seem to apply here, but extending it to forum karma probably wouldn't be much of an issue.

Excellent, then there shouldn't be an issue.

So i dont really know if anyone else pointed this out, but i feel like things would end badly if anyone from the comment sections found the "Good Fffriggen Comment" thread and saw a post saying bad things about one of their posts.

Alternativly to make it less likely for new users and commenters to take RR to seriously there could be a image/banner that says "Riff-Raff is a place where nothing is meant to be taken seriously" and link to the rules, only so if anyone causes an issue in RR they have no excuse for not knowing how RR works

I'd say this has been as fleshed as users can hope to flesh this idea. Admins, what are your thoughts on implementing this idea?

We could have a sidebar that shows recent threads that were featured. That'd be nice imo.