Slavoj Zizek vs. Jordan Peterson Debate

Slavoj Zizek vs. Jordan Peterson Debate

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Overview

Slavoj Zizek vs. Jordan Peterson Debate refers to an event held on April 19th, 2019 in which writer and clinical psychologist Jordan Peterson and philosopher Slavoj Zizek discussed the concept of happiness as it relates to Marxism and Capitalism.

Background

On February 13, 2018, Slavoj Zizek wrote an Op-Ed piece for Independent[1] entitled, "Why do people find Jordan Peterson so convincing? Because the left doesn't have its own house in order". In the piece he critiques both the right and the left. He structures his arguments around anti-immigration and political correctness:

"Anti-immigrant racism and sexism is not dangerous because it lies; it is at its most dangerous when its lie is presented in the form of a (partial) factual truth.
Unfortunately, the liberal, left-wing reaction to anti-immigrant populism is no better. Populism and leftie “political correctness” practice the two complementary forms of lying which follow the classic distinction between hysteria and obsessional neurosis: a hysteric tells the truth in the guise of a lie (what it says is literally not true, but the lie expresses in a false form an authentic complaint), while what an obsessional neurotic claims is literally true, but it is a truth which serves a lie."

On February 28th, 2019, Peterson uploaded a video titled "Zizek vs Peterson: April 19," in which he announced he would be debating Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Žižek on April 19th, 2019 at the Sony Central in Ontario, Canada over the topic "happiness: Marxism vs. capitalism" (shown below).



That day, Redditor Big_Red_Machine_1917 submitted a Steamed Hams comic mocking the debate to /r/ChapoTrapHouse[2] (shown below). Meanwhile, a picture of Kermit the Frog talking to Oscar the Grouch from Sesame Street was submitted to /r/enoughpetersonspam[3] (shown below, right).


YOU CLAIM POSTM0DERNISM ISREBRANDED MARXISM? YES CIALI AND YOU CLAIM THIS DIsPITE THE FACT MARXISM IS A MATERIALISTPHİLOSOPHY Y-YOU KNOW... LOBSTERS. WHICH POSTMODERNISM REJECTSEXCUSE MEFOR ONESECOND

On April 19th, the debate was held and live streamed. Numerous threads and media outlets provided live commentary. [4][5][6] On April 20th, the "Slavoj Zizek vs Jordan Peterson debate" was uploaded in full to YouTube by Andrej P. Škraba (shown below). The video has accumulated 775,000 views and 18,000 likes in two days.



Developments

On April 19th, 2019, Twitter was quick to point out the ways in which Jordan Peterson was unprepared for the debate. Images and tweets shared primarily mocked Peterson's understanding of Marxism and lack of familiarity with Zizek's works. Twitter user @whotwotewho[8] posted, "Peterson: I couldn’t read Zizek’s book in time, so I read Marx’s shortest book. Zizek: I have read all of Marx’s books, your books, and you." (shown below, left). The post gained 1,900 likes and 390 retweets in three days. Twitter user @Sethisaweaboo2[10] tweet one of the first edits of possible Google searches made by Peterson during Zizek's opening statements (shown below, right). The tweet gained 140 likes in three days.


Neil Barrett @whotwotewho Peterson: I couldn't read Zizek's book in time, so T read Marx's shortest book. Zizek: I have read all of Marx's books, your books, and you. #PetersonvaZizek 10:01 PM -19 Apr 2019 Sethisaweaboo2 @Sethisaweaboo2 Current update on the Zizek V Peterson debate Google List of postmodernists Google Search m Foeling Locky 9:50 PM-19 Apr 2019

On April 20th, 2019, Redditors commented on similar themes as those on Twitter. Redditor hailsobek posted and image of Peterson googling Hegel to /r/ChapoTrapHouse[9] (shown below, left) The post gained over 3,000 points (99% upvoted) in two days. Redditor PoemNinja uploaded a photoshopped image to /r/zizek[11] in which Zizek reads a book on Hegel to Peterson (shown below, center). The post gained 220 points (95% upvoted) in two days. Redditor Realtreecamo4k posted an image illustrating Peterson's confusion around Zizek's stance on Marxism to /r/zizek[12] (shown below, right). The post garner 149 points (96% upvoted).


Google who is hegel ALL NEWS VIDEOS IMAGESMAPS SH Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel Philosopher PINOCCHIO Hegels MARX BAD H2O lani

That same day, Redditor tinyspirit741 posted an image to /r/chapotraphouse[15] parodying characteristics of the Zizek and Peterson (shown below). The post gained over 1,000 points (98% upvoted) in two days.


The Virgin JP The Chad Slavoj Zižek PURE IDEOLOGY embodiment of chaotic truth lawful and boring has actually read marx and hegel "I want to solicit from you to tell a joke" regurgitated the same stuff he uses to debate college freshman believes in the attractiveness hierarchy like a redpill cuck literally had a stroke recently and still goes hard af hasn't even read das kapital doesn't know what postmodernism is .absolutely f---- every day . finds virtue in many world religions has a sense of humor and isn't uptight jUdEo ChRiStiAn VaLuEs .moralistic literally talks about toilets and still dunks on jp small pp pitches his self help book in a debate big d--- energy so intense even the mediator wants a taste has an entire telephone pole u his ass, doesn't tell jokes two doctorates immediately made concessions on everything is kind and generous to people he has no respect for dedicated his whole life to german philosophy thinks people are lobsters .is actually kermit the frog has essentially made his own school of philosophical thought always has a hot take . doesn't even understand only eats raw beef lol economics only cites himself can eat two hot dogs at the same time cites multiple other philosophers and historical events thinks pc culture is marxist 95% of audience is insecure white boys

The Guardian[7] outlined the debate as a failure on both participants parts. Peterson was unprepared and disappointed his fans while Zizek's points were often off topic. "One hated communism. The other hated communism but thought that capitalism possessed inherent contradictions. The first one agreed that capitalism possessed inherent contradictions. And that was basically it." Redditors discussed their disappointment with Peterson's performance in /r/JordanPeterson[8].

On April 21st, Redditor A_Largo_Edwardo[13] posted their collection of memes[14] about the debate (some shown below). The list gained 36 points (89% upvoted) in a day.


Level 100 Mafia Boss Level 1 Crook JORDAN B PETERSON Žižek's Jokes Did you hear the one about Hegel and negation? 12 RULES FOR LIFE AN ANTIDOTE TO CHAOS "One of the most important thinkers to emerge on the world stage for many years." THE SPECTATOR SLAVOJ ŽIŽEK allen Lane Me: Can I have Mom: "No, we have already at home" at home: 07! Google 0 Is pee really stored in the balls? ALL IMAGES VIDEOSNEWS MAPS


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External References

[1] Independent – Zizek's Article

[2] Reddit – /r/ChapoTrapHouse

[3] Reddit – /r/enoughpetersonspam

[4] Reddit – /r/jordanPeterson

[5] Reddit – /r/ChapoTrapHouse

[6] Current Affairs – Live Commentary

[7] The Guardian – Peterson Zizek Debate

[8] Reddit – /r/JordanPeterson

[8] Twitter – Whotwotewho

[9] Reddit – /r/ChapoTrapHouse

[10] Twitter – Sethisaweaboo2

[11] Reddit – /r/zizek

[12] Reddit – /r/zizek

[13] Reddit – /r/zizek

[14] Imgur – Debate Meme Collection

[15] Reddit – /r/ChapoTrapHouse

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