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The Memes have gone too far

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“I MUST KILL THE MEMES”
“No John, you are the memes”
“And then John DOOTed”

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    TL;DR: John Carmack never claimed Doomguy was a virgin

    On the fourth day of 2017, the beloved and respected twitter account and source for accurate Doom-related news, @doom_ txt, tweeted the following screenshot: doom_txt @doom_txt. Follow I am fed up with the trolls and ignoramuses who insist on implying that Doomguy has had sex. In an interview with PC Gamer magazine (UK) in 1996, John Carmack said, verbatim: "Canonically speaking, Doomguy is a virgin. He has never had sex, nor do we have any interest in exploring that area in the future. Doomguy, as far as myself and id Software are concerned, will always be a virgin who doesn't even know what sex is." To me, it is pretty black and white, and I think it's time for the debate to just die already. 6:23 AM - Jan 5, 2017 1.4K Reply ✔Copy link This tweet got 871 retweets which for the type of tweet it is is pretty high honestly. It was certainly high enough for Kotaku to make an article covering the quote, many redditors to post the screenshot within the Doom and Asexual spheres of Reddit, and for me personally to notice it and think "That can't be right" but not really decide to look into it until like six years later. Alex Walker, the author of that Kotaku article, did a bit of research into it himself, and got the help of the guy who made that Pac-Man video the length of The Batman in working out which issue of PC Gamer UK would have included a 1996 interview with Carmack. The result was this issue: The World's Finest PC Games Magazine Issue 29 April 1996 £4.99 outside UK a CD-ROM EDITION UK and Eire FL24.95 US$12.45 PCGAMER TERRA NOVA First review of the excellent new shoot-'em-up from Looking Glass Read 24 replies SFC doom_txt Jan 5, 2017 @doom_txt. Follow 78 very stable genius (parody) @n0mza_ . Follow So fact-checking that claim seems as simple as tracking down a scan of this issue. Unfortunately this represented my first major roadblock because seemingly nobody in the world cares about 90s era PC Gamer UK. There's only one public library carrying any copies of their magazines, but none as old as the 1990s, and several other resources for old VGM scans neglect to scan absolutely anything from the region. Admittedly, this much I understand, but it made my quest for answers a lot harder. My next recourse was eBay. But eBay was no help either because again nobody in the world cared enough about this magazine to keep a copy. Which is nuts! It has an interview with John Carmack in anticipation of the release of Quake! But these words are hardly a treaty for apathetics and American Gamers. In an interview with PC Gamer magazine (UK) in 1996, John Carmack said, verbatim: "Canonically speaking, Doomguy is a virgin. He has never had sex, nor do we have any interest in exploring that area in the future. Doomguy, as far as myself and id Software are concerned, will always be a virgin who doesn't even know what sex is." please correctly attribute this quote to @beeface 9:06 AM Jan 6, 2017 Reply ✔Copy link This only made me more skeptical of the original tweet's claims. How exactly did Pulitzer-winning journalist @doom txt's anonymous source even get their hands on this magazine if it's so hard for me to? It adds credence to the theory that they just made this quote up. Unfortunately, while a persuasive argument, it's not conclusive. The source could have just been British in the 90s and, as such, happened to get their hands on the issue in question. I am fed up with the trolls and ignoramuses who insist on implying that Doomguy has had sex. To me, it is pretty black and white, and I think it's time for the debate to just die already. Nathan (Anti-G*mers) @beeface. Follow But then I noticed a subtle detail about that tweet that previously eluded me. I was too laser-focused on the screenshot itself that I failed to observe the responses to the tweet. There in the annals, amid the unwashed masses, was this reply: Read 1 reply In an interview with PC Gamer magazine (UK) in 1996, John Carmack said, verbatim: "Canonically speaking, Doomguy is a virgin. He has never had sex, nor do we have any interest in that area exploring myself and id Software are concerned, will always be a virgin who doesn't even know what sex is." in the future. bomguy, as far as X Four years ago I wrote a joke post on a Facebook group stating that Doomguy is a virgin. Since then it's taken a life of its own on implying that Doonguy has had sex. To me it is pretty black and white and I think it's time magazine I could. There were plenty of mentions of id and Quake in the magazine that year - unsurprisingly given how anticipated Quake was. THE BEST CD YOU'LL FIND! CDGAMER AFTERLIFE.... ON THE CD AFTERLIFE TERRA NOVA CHRONICLES OF THE SWORD HEROES OF MIGHT & MAGIC GRAND PRIX MANAGER BIG RED RACING VIRTUAL SNOOKER AZRAEL'S TEAR MEGA MAN X TOP GUN STRIFE I found a partial scan of a July PC Gamer UK magazine, which suggested there was a "major feature" on Quake the month prior. Scouring the Internet Archive and other 4:01 AM . Dec 23, 2021 Reply ✔Copy link This competing journalist, who I'm sorry to say I've never heard of, seemingly outed @doom_txt's anonymous source. Despite a brief refutation from @doom txt, this new lead was already out there in the wild, waiting for me to prize its endpoint. So, with a bit of digging, I found... not the original post itself per se, but a startling and upsetting admission from @beeface themself. am Share Reply ✔Copy link Alex Walker Published 10 months ago: February 17, 2021 at 10:18 Doonguy was e a virgini, waL whole Carmack interview was a Read 6 replies is pulling In this tweet, they claim that they made it all up. copypasta and Hugo Martin (during one of his streams) confirmed that the family photo that was torn was Doomguys wife and son. Fluff and Other QUAKE We've been playing it! x So stop memeing around the fact that doomguy is the ultimate Christian for killing demons, being a virnin and all of that when doomous literally left Olive Tree the Hexapus Jul 28, 2023 @TotallyRadDot. Follow Replying to @Hazel Monforton @ID_AA_Carmack Is this quote actually from you? John Carmack @ID_AA_Carmack . Follow No, first time I have ever seen it. 7:47 PM. Jul 28, 2023 • Is it any good? . Where can you get the demo? Read 1 reply . Where are the secret monsters? All your questions answered in our special report! ulure This cover-up goes all the way to the top. Why are we waiting? His response is chilling in its own right. But, there you have it, folks. Why are games always late? X 9 771353 850017 So my investigation was over. Case closed. But somehow this answer wasn't satisfying to me. They failed to provide a screenshot with more text, for instance, instead electing to reproduce the same screenshot from @doom txt's internationally-covered initial report on the subject. If they were the original writer, surely they could give us more context? It just didn't sit right. How would they have even known that PC Gamer UK interviewed John Carmack in 1996 in the first place if it was all a complete lie? Nothing about it sat right. Maybe @beeface was simply swooping in for attention, and had nothing to do with the original findings. Or worse, my gut sensed that, maybe, they had been "persuaded" to issue this statement. 04 I considered reaching out to them, but ultimately, I figured it would be a waste of effort. If they were afraid enough to come forward with this lie, this cover-up, there was nothing I could do to protect them against whoever @doom txt had hired to "get" that statement from them. No, if I wanted to get to the bottom of this, I would need a source that was completely incontrovertible. Failing a copy of the issue in question, I resorted to my next best bet: I asked John Carmack directly. X I was wrong in assuming that @doom txt was responsible for @beeface's erroneous "confession". Global superstar or no, journalists like @doom_txt just don't have the pull to orchestrate something like this. Now I see that @doom txt was just a pawn in a greater game, one where Carmack himself is merely the bishop. Someone higher up findings, I can push back all the strings. I don't know who yet, but my hope is that by releasing my against their dam. Let the floods pour out, you bastards. Catch me if you can.
    On the fourth day of 2017, the beloved and respected twitter account and source for accurate Doom-related news, @doom_ txt, tweeted the following screenshot: doom_txt @doom_txt. Follow I am fed up with the trolls and ignoramuses who insist on implying that Doomguy has had sex. In an interview with PC Gamer magazine (UK) in 1996, John Carmack said, verbatim: "Canonically speaking, Doomguy is a virgin. He has never had sex, nor do we have any interest in exploring that area in the future. Doomguy, as far as myself and id Software are concerned, will always be a virgin who doesn't even know what sex is." To me, it is pretty black and white, and I think it's time for the debate to just die already. 6:23 AM - Jan 5, 2017 1.4K Reply ✔Copy link This tweet got 871 retweets which for the type of tweet it is is pretty high honestly. It was certainly high enough for Kotaku to make an article covering the quote, many redditors to post the screenshot within the Doom and Asexual spheres of Reddit, and for me personally to notice it and think "That can't be right" but not really decide to look into it until like six years later. Alex Walker, the author of that Kotaku article, did a bit of research into it himself, and got the help of the guy who made that Pac-Man video the length of The Batman in working out which issue of PC Gamer UK would have included a 1996 interview with Carmack. The result was this issue: The World's Finest PC Games Magazine Issue 29 April 1996 £4.99 outside UK a CD-ROM EDITION UK and Eire FL24.95 US$12.45 PCGAMER TERRA NOVA First review of the excellent new shoot-'em-up from Looking Glass Read 24 replies SFC doom_txt Jan 5, 2017 @doom_txt. Follow 78 very stable genius (parody) @n0mza_ . Follow So fact-checking that claim seems as simple as tracking down a scan of this issue. Unfortunately this represented my first major roadblock because seemingly nobody in the world cares about 90s era PC Gamer UK. There's only one public library carrying any copies of their magazines, but none as old as the 1990s, and several other resources for old VGM scans neglect to scan absolutely anything from the region. Admittedly, this much I understand, but it made my quest for answers a lot harder. My next recourse was eBay. But eBay was no help either because again nobody in the world cared enough about this magazine to keep a copy. Which is nuts! It has an interview with John Carmack in anticipation of the release of Quake! But these words are hardly a treaty for apathetics and American Gamers. In an interview with PC Gamer magazine (UK) in 1996, John Carmack said, verbatim: "Canonically speaking, Doomguy is a virgin. He has never had sex, nor do we have any interest in exploring that area in the future. Doomguy, as far as myself and id Software are concerned, will always be a virgin who doesn't even know what sex is." please correctly attribute this quote to @beeface 9:06 AM Jan 6, 2017 Reply ✔Copy link This only made me more skeptical of the original tweet's claims. How exactly did Pulitzer-winning journalist @doom txt's anonymous source even get their hands on this magazine if it's so hard for me to? It adds credence to the theory that they just made this quote up. Unfortunately, while a persuasive argument, it's not conclusive. The source could have just been British in the 90s and, as such, happened to get their hands on the issue in question. I am fed up with the trolls and ignoramuses who insist on implying that Doomguy has had sex. To me, it is pretty black and white, and I think it's time for the debate to just die already. Nathan (Anti-G*mers) @beeface. Follow But then I noticed a subtle detail about that tweet that previously eluded me. I was too laser-focused on the screenshot itself that I failed to observe the responses to the tweet. There in the annals, amid the unwashed masses, was this reply: Read 1 reply In an interview with PC Gamer magazine (UK) in 1996, John Carmack said, verbatim: "Canonically speaking, Doomguy is a virgin. He has never had sex, nor do we have any interest in that area exploring myself and id Software are concerned, will always be a virgin who doesn't even know what sex is." in the future. bomguy, as far as X Four years ago I wrote a joke post on a Facebook group stating that Doomguy is a virgin. Since then it's taken a life of its own on implying that Doonguy has had sex. To me it is pretty black and white and I think it's time magazine I could. There were plenty of mentions of id and Quake in the magazine that year - unsurprisingly given how anticipated Quake was. THE BEST CD YOU'LL FIND! CDGAMER AFTERLIFE.... ON THE CD AFTERLIFE TERRA NOVA CHRONICLES OF THE SWORD HEROES OF MIGHT & MAGIC GRAND PRIX MANAGER BIG RED RACING VIRTUAL SNOOKER AZRAEL'S TEAR MEGA MAN X TOP GUN STRIFE I found a partial scan of a July PC Gamer UK magazine, which suggested there was a "major feature" on Quake the month prior. Scouring the Internet Archive and other 4:01 AM . Dec 23, 2021 Reply ✔Copy link This competing journalist, who I'm sorry to say I've never heard of, seemingly outed @doom_txt's anonymous source. Despite a brief refutation from @doom txt, this new lead was already out there in the wild, waiting for me to prize its endpoint. So, with a bit of digging, I found... not the original post itself per se, but a startling and upsetting admission from @beeface themself. am Share Reply ✔Copy link Alex Walker Published 10 months ago: February 17, 2021 at 10:18 Doonguy was e a virgini, waL whole Carmack interview was a Read 6 replies is pulling In this tweet, they claim that they made it all up. copypasta and Hugo Martin (during one of his streams) confirmed that the family photo that was torn was Doomguys wife and son. Fluff and Other QUAKE We've been playing it! x So stop memeing around the fact that doomguy is the ultimate Christian for killing demons, being a virnin and all of that when doomous literally left Olive Tree the Hexapus Jul 28, 2023 @TotallyRadDot. Follow Replying to @Hazel Monforton @ID_AA_Carmack Is this quote actually from you? John Carmack @ID_AA_Carmack . Follow No, first time I have ever seen it. 7:47 PM. Jul 28, 2023 • Is it any good? . Where can you get the demo? Read 1 reply . Where are the secret monsters? All your questions answered in our special report! ulure This cover-up goes all the way to the top. Why are we waiting? His response is chilling in its own right. But, there you have it, folks. Why are games always late? X 9 771353 850017 So my investigation was over. Case closed. But somehow this answer wasn't satisfying to me. They failed to provide a screenshot with more text, for instance, instead electing to reproduce the same screenshot from @doom txt's internationally-covered initial report on the subject. If they were the original writer, surely they could give us more context? It just didn't sit right. How would they have even known that PC Gamer UK interviewed John Carmack in 1996 in the first place if it was all a complete lie? Nothing about it sat right. Maybe @beeface was simply swooping in for attention, and had nothing to do with the original findings. Or worse, my gut sensed that, maybe, they had been "persuaded" to issue this statement. 04 I considered reaching out to them, but ultimately, I figured it would be a waste of effort. If they were afraid enough to come forward with this lie, this cover-up, there was nothing I could do to protect them against whoever @doom txt had hired to "get" that statement from them. No, if I wanted to get to the bottom of this, I would need a source that was completely incontrovertible. Failing a copy of the issue in question, I resorted to my next best bet: I asked John Carmack directly. X I was wrong in assuming that @doom txt was responsible for @beeface's erroneous "confession". Global superstar or no, journalists like @doom_txt just don't have the pull to orchestrate something like this. Now I see that @doom txt was just a pawn in a greater game, one where Carmack himself is merely the bishop. Someone higher up findings, I can push back all the strings. I don't know who yet, but my hope is that by releasing my against their dam. Let the floods pour out, you bastards. Catch me if you can.
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