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Tim Hardaway is a homophobe (and so are you) HEAT 10 Writing about the exchange he instigated with Hardaway (one of only a handful of NBA stars who ignored their publicists' advice and answered questions about Amaeichi's coming out in a new book, "Man in the Middle," Lebatard describes the comments as hurtful and homophobic, but "honest." They were also stupid for a public figure. But and this is the big "but..." Keeping it real most straight men feel exactly the same way, and would have the exact same reaction to the idea of stripping naked in a sweaty locker room in close quarters with a gay teammate. Most straight people cringe at the sight of two men kissing. Most straight people cringed at the Snickers commercial. Most straight people had a hard time being convinced to watch Broke Back Mountain." (I admit that I couldn't go see the movie either, despite my sister's ringing endorsement, because I didn't want to watch the two male characters having sex.) Does that make me homophobic? Probably. And I'm not exactly proud of it. But part of the intrinsic nature of "straightness" is that the idea of homosexual sex is well... gross even if you think that gay people are pertectly lovely individuals. For the record, I'm sure gay people think straight sex is gross, too, it's just that the nature of political correctness is that gay people are allowed to say straight sex is gross, but the reverse is considered to be patently homophobic.

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today's Joy Reid story is really reminding me of how common anti-gay/ homophobic/ etc views were among mainstream liberals a very, very short time ago

Can't help but wonder why JoyAnnReid can't just say "hey, I said a lot of ignorant s--- on here a number of years ago and it sucked. Sorry about that."

Fwiw, I do encourage @JoyAnnReid to reach out and engage with the LGBTOQ community and to meet with trans folk in particular. I hope she'll use this situation as an opportunity to expand her understanding and empathy. But, damn y'all, give people room to grow. We ALL need it.

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That's a good argument, but I would throw in one caveat. Morality is a highly personal idea. What I might consider immoral, you might consider to be perfectly acceptable. It all depends on myriad factors, like upbringing, religious inculcation, etc. So it is possible for someone like Pace to have the personal opinion that homosexuality is immoral, without there being some larger imperative that he explain why it is so. On the question of how that morality is defined, for the religious person, it could be as simple as, "because the Bible proscribes against it." That may not wash with everyone, but it really doesn't have to Perhaps some people use the world "immoral" when they really mean "distasteful" - I think a lot of heterosexuals, especially men, find the idea of homosexual sex to be... well gross, and so they lump it in with immorality. And I think many religious people classity gay sex as immoral because in their view, it lures healthy males away from the procreative life. And then there are the concerns that adult gay men tend to be attracted to very young, post-pubescent types, bringing them "into the lifestyle" in a way that many people consider to be immoral. (Ditto with gay rights groups that seek to organize ve teens who may have an inclination that they are gay...) und, impressionable That's the best I can do in answering the columnist's challenge. As for Pace, I think he's entitled to his opinion, and his statement regretting that he aired his personal views should suffice

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Joy calls Crist "Miss Charlie" and again declares his potential wedding to a women is a fraud and a "veep marketing strategy".

Not a bot Jamie Maz 30 Nov 2017 7/x Joy calls Crist "Miss Charlie and again declares his potential wedding to a women is a fraud and a 'veep marketing strategy Thursday, October 16, 2005 Miss Charlie leaves the building and if L were Char lie's fiancee, I wouldn't bet everything I had on that Deramber wed ina th 174 312 Not a bot Jamie Maz 30 Nov 2017 8/x Joy constantly refers to Crist mockingly as 'Miss Charlie" and insinuates that his marriage is a fraud to cover up his being gay Thursday, January 15, 2009 Charlie! that hes marriad to a airl. Charla Crist is baing sought aut for all KINDS of good stufi The latest: the GOP is starve or talent in the wake nfth. 1eb Rush withdrawal, some in the party are wooing Miss Charlie to run for Sideshow Mel's soon-to-be vacated Senate seat. From The H National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Conyn (Texas) on 97t 166 287 Not a bot Jamie Maz 30 Nov 2017 9/x More garbage from Joy nentiun that Miss Cherlie ?And ow pouted by ad 913 t 134275 Not a bot Jamie Maz 30 Nov 2017 Here is the link to the archive of Joy's blog. Scroll about halfway down to start seeing the articles cited in the thread. web.archive.org/web/2013070803

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Joy mocks Crist as Will from Will and Grace, says he is faking a marriage to a woman to run for VP.

Not a bot Jamie Maz 30 Nov 2017 4/x Joy mocks Crist as Will from Will and Grace, says he is faking a marriage to a woman to run for VP Friday, July 04, 2008 Early, late notes: Crist finds his 'Grace,' Obama unplugged, and a Williams Wimble TIree quick things before I go to sleep: What woukdn't Charlie Crist do to become John McCain's 95 t 188 342 a Not a bot Jamie Maz 30 Nov 2017 5/x Joy says Crist would decorate the White House with flamingo-shaped napkins making it gayer than George Takei Slly Mark, of COLIR5E he would Wihna Houza, Mi nw-. McCain's lust Senator. Bir if Mac were to get into th Labols: 2008 alacticn, Bia ol, Charie Cist, Fiorida, lahn MeCain, oft h--- drilina, presidential naid 추埡.azr昱 9 t 208 352 Not a bot @Jamie_Maz 6/x Joy writes a post on Crist under the tag "not gay politicians" and shares her awful opinions on gay men who get married Signs of the veepocalypse When qay man get marnied, to women, 1 mean..t's usually an indication that thay are locking for openly to gro up the possiblity of 큽 satisfying saxual an demotion life in order to be married, and participata in Ia's relationship supar bowl, or thay are wiling to le to a really naive cr clueless weman. ally indcates that he is hi ay n itous and desres to y malong himseamore appeeling hoice orvice presdent, for nistane. Since Ameics requires only two things of their presidents or vice presidents): that they be really visble Christians, and that they be married (to a woman). Everythinp else (a brain, for instance,) is dearly uptional (oh, and a third thing, we want them to be the knd of guy we'd have a beer wih, assuming we have the remotest pussibility of having a beer ut himself in a pcaition to mave up the pwww.blogger.comyimgol.lnk.gf Oh, and Charie Ct has a girlfriend who sources say might bee one

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1/x From 2007 to 2009 @joyannreid authored a dozen homophobic posts not only attempting to out Charlie Crist as gay, she attacked & mocked him for being so. She repeatedly referred to him as "Miss Charlie" and tagged posts about him under "gay politici

Not a bot Jamie Maz 30 Nov 2017 1/x From 2007 to 2009 Øjoyannreid authored a dozen homophobic posts not only attempting to out Charlie Crist as gay, she attacked & mocked him for being so him She repeatedly referred to him as 'Miss Charlie' and tagged posts about under "gay politicians." (thread) the report reidbl wedsenday, lebruary 21, 2007 Miss Charlie, Miss Charlie Listen to Jey Reid on the radie, Charle Crst, Flonda, NEWSTALK Not a bot Jamie Maz 30 Nov 2017 2/x Joy constantly refers to Crist mockingly as 'Miss Charlie" and insinuates that his marriage is a fraud to cover up his being gay Thursday, January 15, 2009 Charlie! riad to a girl, Charie Crist is baing sought aut for all KINDS of gaod stuffi The latest: the GOP is starvert f talent in the wake nf th·1eb Bush withdrawal, some in the party are wooing Miss Charlie to nun for Sideshow Mel's soon-to-be vacated Senate seat. From The Hl National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Comyn (Texas) on 913 tl 249462 Not a bot @Jamie_Maz 3/x She makes a joke about John McCain "tapping" Crist, says Crist spent his honeymoon ogling male waiters and thinking about how he didn't want to see his wife naked, and mocked Crist's big gay wedding The Flarida governor didn't gct tapped by John McCain (get your mind out of the guttorl I happened to b taping a TV interviaw today with someone "in the know" (and n the Florida Gap.) and this person, whom I won't name, told me that s well known that Crist and his new bride will not even live together. Sure, there's the governor's mansion in Talahassee, but he's hardly there He's got condo of his own, and she lives on wanky Fisher Island (her kids he mstv with ther rather in New York.) So the marriage might be, shall we say, of the John and Cindy McCain variety heavy on the pobential political bankrol, light on the naokic. I can just see poor Charic on ths Hm. Costumes. How fitting. And there were protesters, tool Gar oes even Plus a press conference after edding without a with ฐ big handlebar mustache in attendane Thanks, Gerldo But what's most inter supposed Fourth Estate, the they knaw thay knaw about Crist's sa faith in democracy, doesn't it? okay wedding video time 4:41 PM-30 Nov 2017

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Tim Hardaway is a homophobe (and so are you) HEAT 10 Writing about the exchange he instigated with Hardaway (one of only a handful of NBA stars who ignored their publicists' advice and answered questions about Amaeichi's coming out in a new book, "Man in the Middle," Lebatard describes the comments as hurtful and homophobic, but "honest." They were also stupid for a public figure. But and this is the big "but..." Keeping it real most straight men feel exactly the same way, and would have the exact same reaction to the idea of stripping naked in a sweaty locker room in close quarters with a gay teammate. Most straight people cringe at the sight of two men kissing. Most straight people cringed at the Snickers commercial. Most straight people had a hard time being convinced to watch Broke Back Mountain." (I admit that I couldn't go see the movie either, despite my sister's ringing endorsement, because I didn't want to watch the two male characters having sex.) Does that make me homophobic? Probably. And I'm not exactly proud of it. But part of the intrinsic nature of "straightness" is that the idea of homosexual sex is well... gross even if you think that gay people are pertectly lovely individuals. For the record, I'm sure gay people think straight sex is gross, too, it's just that the nature of political correctness is that gay people are allowed to say straight sex is gross, but the reverse is considered to be patently homophobic.

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