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sanje horah @sanjehorah i was one of the core "Hegelian egirls", and i left the Hegelian Egirl Council a week ago. my concern is that the HEC project claims to do be doing political mediation but is effectively platforming the worst of both sides and lending them intellectual legitimacy. i sincerely believe that anna and nikki are good people with good intentions but i am afraid of the consequences of their actions. i played it like i'm a peripheral member, but anna was my best friend and i had been entirely committed to her project and vision even beyond HEC. i was deep on the inside. i know how they operate. i know what they do beyond their takes on twitter. i effectively ran cover for nikki and anna. i was becoming someone i don't want to be. i deeply regret my participation in the project on ethical grounds. sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 a lot of anna's and nikki's standing relies on their general incomprehensibility. it relies on their closest supporters not quite understanding the purpose of this project or how its goals can be achieved by the actions taken. it drew on our willingness to have faith 8 1723 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 403 Ill 68K 1 their standing relies on the general public not understanding them, but understanding that they are knowledgeable and brilliant and knowing that they are definitely smarter than you 3 116 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 321 55K what is understandable promises something prosocial and visionary. something people can get behind. something i got behind. thing is, i'm not sure there is any actual valuable philosophical content backing the project sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 when i started doubting this project, i talked to our mutual friends. a lot of them expressed that they feel insane for not seeing the vision or generally confused about the whole deal. a lot of us kept on because we thought it's our personal skill issue 178 1 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 233 47K when i engaged more with hegel, and talked to people who understand hegel a lot better than i do, i realised that the "hegelian egirl council" is quite literally subhegelian. it relies on a very vulgar understanding of dialectics Edgar @hegelenjoyer · Jul 30 Okay I don't think me and the hegelian egirls are are reading the same hegel I mean zizek I mean lacan 6 1740 427 72K sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 sanje horah @sanjehorah - Aug 4 • after i left, i had expressed to nikki that i think they are misusing hegel she told me that they're inspired by how zizek takes terms from other philosophers and makes them his own by his use applying them to the real world 9 178 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 244 42K i sympathise with the appropriation of terminology, drawing inspiration from the original but making them your own i think it becomes a lot more dangerous when the intellectual legitimacy it lends is used to forward a political agenda ○ 2 175 221 Il 38K litvrgy had been a close friend of anna's, and in our inner circle witnessing our actual planning process and activities. she is right about the fundamental deceptiveness of this project's promised premises Litvrgy @LITVRGY • Aug 4 Replying to @LITVRGY and @tenshi_anna Belied by the fundamental deception of your project, which is that you are happy to troll leftists but won't make anyone on the right mad, which you privately ‘explain' to your leftist friends as because you need to keep your ‘secreť (aka non existent) leftist views quiet so you Show more 227 sanje horah @sanjehorah this deception of leftists is "justified" because HEC equally deceives the right. anna and nikki have thrown their lot in with the maga communists nikki is openly a member of infrared, an organisation championed by Haz, leading the maga communist movement behind the american communist party I'm secretly the ACP's strongest soldier. Haz recognizes this I think Replying to sanje horah 233 Ill 76K 口 this works because left reactionaries and right reactionaries are happy to entertain each other on reactionary grounds. what is alienated are the centrists and moderates. how can you mediate sanje horah ✔ @sanjehorah - Aug 4 to reiterate, i don't think the HEC are bad people. they genuinely believe in their stated vision. i just think the failure to live up to your promises becomes extremely dangerous when you are granted the leniency to play with political extremism because you promised mediation. when you can't mediate with centrists? ○ 6 18 ❤219 Ill 32K 口↑ 4 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 i myself am a centrist, an "esoteric neoliberal" in anna's terms. i received pushback at every turn when i tried to keep HEC living up to its promises of political mediation and not become a left reactionary psyop or right reactionary psyop ○ 3 t 10 sanje horah ✔ @sanjehorah 178 ill 32K the deceptive behaviour of HEC continues. i am still not sure if the HEC party venue really received violent threats. perhaps they did. perhaps the explanation is very complicated and would reveal more of something that they don't want to reveal. anna and nikki has not offered an explanation in response to JP's thread. i find this suspicious. 227 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 158 lil 28K i understand that some amount of machiavellianism and cloutchasing is 1 needed to run an ambitious project like this. i think the HEC goes way above and beyond. ○ 2 273 134 ili 24K 1 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 i had been complicit in this deceptiveness. my participation in HEC made me realise the limits of my own machiavellianism. ○ 1 271 ❤ 137 ili 23K ☐ 1 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 i feel defeated. i feel lost. the project still carries the imprint of my soul. people say that HEC is another nyc fad that will fade out. i have too much faith in anna for that. i think it will be big, and then a big disaster. i hope that my words have weight.

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Nikki the Hegelian @returntohegel I have a wojak now. Does this mean I've made it? THE MYTH OF CONSENSUAL" CULTURE CREATIO I ONSENT CONSENT CONSENT I DON'T! SILLYBOY HEGEL'S nerator* *Alt Lit Poet* *NuPhilosopher* *Academia* *Boomer Cultu Reporters* ISN'T THERE SOMEBODY YOU FORGOT TO ASK? 11:30 AM - Aug 20, 2024 583 Views HEGEL'S ...
Shiny Dummy @RealShinyDummy - Aug 16 i was one of the core "Hegelian egirls", and i left the Hegelian Egirl Council a week ago. my concern is that the HEC project claims to do be doing political mediation but is effectively platforming the worst of both sides and lending them intellectual legitimacy. i (1/5) Q1 27 2 山 115 Shiny Dummy @RealShinyDummy - Aug 16 sincerely believe that anna and nikki are good people with good intentions but i am afraid of the consequences of their actions. i played it like i'm a peripheral member, but anna was my best friend and i had been entirely committed to her project and vision even beyond HEC(2/5) Q1 27 ♡ 2 td 23 Shiny Dummy @RealShinyDummy - Aug 16 (3/5) I was deep on the inside. i know how they operate. i know what they do beyond their takes on twitter. i effectively ran cover for nikki and anna. i was becoming someone i don't want to be. i deeply regret my participation in the project on ethical grounds. Q1 27 ♡ 2 Shiny Dummy @RealShinyDummy - Aug 16 ul 22 and that”s that on that on that on that on that ܐܨܐ ܨܐܨܐܢܨܐܘܐܢ ܐ. ܐ. )4/5( on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on that on Q1 ♡ 2 22 Shiny Dummy @RealShinyDummy (5/5) that on that on that on that on that on that on that. 444 4440 12-28 AM- Aug 16 2024-20 Views
mc.intellego @Mintellego According to Grok: The Hegelian Egirl Council (HEC) appears to be a group that emerged within online communities, particularly on platforms like x (formerly Twitter), blending elements of philosophical discourse with internet culture, specifically around the persons of "egirls" - a term often used to describe young women who engage in online content creation, particularly in gaming or social media, often with a flirty or playful demeanor. Here's a synthesis of what's known based on posts and discussions: -**Formation and Ideology: The HEC was ostensibly formed around the idea of engaging with Hegelian dialectics, a philosophical method where ideas evolve through contradiction and synthesis, but with a twist of modern internet culture. The members, self-described as "Hegelian egirls," aimed to discuss or perhaps satirize philosophical concepts, politics, and social issues through this lens. -**Public Perception and Drama: The project quickly became a subject of drama and critique: -"Internal Conflicts: Several members of the council, like @RealShinyDummy and @sanjehorah, publicly left the group, expressing concerns over the project's direction. They criticized it for not genuinely engaging in political mediation but instead platforming extreme views under the guise of intellectual discourse, which they felt lent unwarranted legitimacy to those views. -"*Public Critique™: The project was seen by some, like @bimbotheory. as descending into petty squabbles rather than maintaining philosophical integrity, with members engaging in what was described as "mean girling" through complex, opaque arguments, claiming to have the truest interpretation of Hegel. -"*Aesthetic and Philosophical Critique: There was also critique regarding the aesthetics and the philosophical approach of the council. @credenzaclear2 described the group's communication style as histrionic and ineffective, suggesting a disconnect between their philosophical claims and their actual engagement. -"Humor and Satire": Some observers, like @leyawn, humorously compared the council's dynamics to game mechanics, suggesting that their approach to managing internal relations was as if they were characters in a strategy game, focusing on intrigue over substance. -**Philosophical and Cultural Impact: While intended as a blend of high philosophy with internet culture, the Hegelian Egirl Council's drama highlights a broader cultural phenomenon where online personas engage with complex ideas, often leading to a mix of genuine discourse. satire, and personal drama. This event underscores the challenges of merging deep philosophical discussion with the often superficial or performative aspects of internet culture. The Hegelian Egirl Council, therefore, can be seen as an attempt to bring philosophical discourse into the realm of internet fame and social media interaction, but it encountered the typical pitfalls of online communities: internal strife, public scrutiny, and the difficulty of maintaining intellectual rigor amidst the performative nature of social media. 3:08 PM-Aug 18, 2024-1,344 Views
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sanje horah @sanjehorah i was one of the core "Hegelian egirls", and i left the Hegelian Egirl Council a week ago. my concern is that the HEC project claims to do be doing political mediation but is effectively platforming the worst of both sides and lending them intellectual legitimacy. i sincerely believe that anna and nikki are good people with good intentions but i am afraid of the consequences of their actions. i played it like i'm a peripheral member, but anna was my best friend and i had been entirely committed to her project and vision even beyond HEC. i was deep on the inside. i know how they operate. i know what they do beyond their takes on twitter. i effectively ran cover for nikki and anna. i was becoming someone i don't want to be. i deeply regret my participation in the project on ethical grounds. sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 a lot of anna's and nikki's standing relies on their general incomprehensibility. it relies on their closest supporters not quite understanding the purpose of this project or how its goals can be achieved by the actions taken. it drew on our willingness to have faith 8 1723 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 403 Ill 68K 1 their standing relies on the general public not understanding them, but understanding that they are knowledgeable and brilliant and knowing that they are definitely smarter than you 3 116 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 321 55K what is understandable promises something prosocial and visionary. something people can get behind. something i got behind. thing is, i'm not sure there is any actual valuable philosophical content backing the project sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 when i started doubting this project, i talked to our mutual friends. a lot of them expressed that they feel insane for not seeing the vision or generally confused about the whole deal. a lot of us kept on because we thought it's our personal skill issue 178 1 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 233 47K when i engaged more with hegel, and talked to people who understand hegel a lot better than i do, i realised that the "hegelian egirl council" is quite literally subhegelian. it relies on a very vulgar understanding of dialectics Edgar @hegelenjoyer · Jul 30 Okay I don't think me and the hegelian egirls are are reading the same hegel I mean zizek I mean lacan 6 1740 427 72K sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 sanje horah @sanjehorah - Aug 4 • after i left, i had expressed to nikki that i think they are misusing hegel she told me that they're inspired by how zizek takes terms from other philosophers and makes them his own by his use applying them to the real world 9 178 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 244 42K i sympathise with the appropriation of terminology, drawing inspiration from the original but making them your own i think it becomes a lot more dangerous when the intellectual legitimacy it lends is used to forward a political agenda ○ 2 175 221 Il 38K litvrgy had been a close friend of anna's, and in our inner circle witnessing our actual planning process and activities. she is right about the fundamental deceptiveness of this project's promised premises Litvrgy @LITVRGY • Aug 4 Replying to @LITVRGY and @tenshi_anna Belied by the fundamental deception of your project, which is that you are happy to troll leftists but won't make anyone on the right mad, which you privately ‘explain' to your leftist friends as because you need to keep your ‘secreť (aka non existent) leftist views quiet so you Show more 227 sanje horah @sanjehorah this deception of leftists is "justified" because HEC equally deceives the right. anna and nikki have thrown their lot in with the maga communists nikki is openly a member of infrared, an organisation championed by Haz, leading the maga communist movement behind the american communist party I'm secretly the ACP's strongest soldier. Haz recognizes this I think Replying to sanje horah 233 Ill 76K 口 this works because left reactionaries and right reactionaries are happy to entertain each other on reactionary grounds. what is alienated are the centrists and moderates. how can you mediate sanje horah ✔ @sanjehorah - Aug 4 to reiterate, i don't think the HEC are bad people. they genuinely believe in their stated vision. i just think the failure to live up to your promises becomes extremely dangerous when you are granted the leniency to play with political extremism because you promised mediation. when you can't mediate with centrists? ○ 6 18 ❤219 Ill 32K 口↑ 4 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 i myself am a centrist, an "esoteric neoliberal" in anna's terms. i received pushback at every turn when i tried to keep HEC living up to its promises of political mediation and not become a left reactionary psyop or right reactionary psyop ○ 3 t 10 sanje horah ✔ @sanjehorah 178 ill 32K the deceptive behaviour of HEC continues. i am still not sure if the HEC party venue really received violent threats. perhaps they did. perhaps the explanation is very complicated and would reveal more of something that they don't want to reveal. anna and nikki has not offered an explanation in response to JP's thread. i find this suspicious. 227 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 158 lil 28K i understand that some amount of machiavellianism and cloutchasing is 1 needed to run an ambitious project like this. i think the HEC goes way above and beyond. ○ 2 273 134 ili 24K 1 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 i had been complicit in this deceptiveness. my participation in HEC made me realise the limits of my own machiavellianism. ○ 1 271 ❤ 137 ili 23K ☐ 1 sanje horah @sanjehorah Aug 4 i feel defeated. i feel lost. the project still carries the imprint of my soul. people say that HEC is another nyc fad that will fade out. i have too much faith in anna for that. i think it will be big, and then a big disaster. i hope that my words have weight.

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