A Guide to Ending "Gamers" by Devin Wilson on 08/28/14 07:57:00 pm Sohere are some nreiminany tactics rargpse for transformg tet ropose your own in the comments, and offer revisions to mine): 11. We stop upholding "fun" as the universal, ultimate criterion for a game's relevance It's a meaningless ideal at best and a poisonous priority at worst. Fun is a neurological trick. Plenty of categorically unhealthy things are fun". Let's try for something more. Many of the alternatives will have similarly fuzzy definitions, but let's aspire to qualities like edifying" healing", "pro-social", or even "enlightening". I encourage you to decide upon your owrn alternatives to fun" in games (while avoiding terms like cool" and "awesome" and any other word that simply caters to existing, unexamined biases).

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Like...is there any solution to this? Should we start something?

Jalen Hutchinson Studied Culinary Science at Culinary Institute of America (Graduated 2014). Author has 304 answers and 740.1K answer views. 5y Not that I care that much either way, but it did expose a lot of corrupt game developers and game journalists. X Journalists would make claims of people like Anita Sarkeesian "playing video games all her life" when she openly admitted many times she is not a gamer and only starter recently (when it wasn't for an interview). Various developers trading sex or money for good reviews got exposed, journalists who accepted got exposed. People became a bit more critical about supporting a game just because the developer has a victim complex stating tat their game could have only failed because of sexism, instead of their own poor developing skills. What really sealed the deal was opposition often faking their own harassment. Anita sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn have been caught multiple times screenshotting "harassment" while showing that the harrasser's account name in the login. Or when someone called the police to help Sarkeesian against a "very real threat" she was posting about, only for police to find the harasser's messages were coming from her IP address. I just want honesty from the community, and the lies were mostly exposed by the "dreaded" gamergate. 1.3K views • View upvotes 26

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Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers Follow Women would cry foul if little group of male bloggers started "critiquing" & policing their romance novels or fashion magazines. TWEETS FOLLOWING FOLLOWERS Follow 3,498 87 8,330 Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers Resident scholar at American Enterprise Institute. Former philosophy professor. Author of Who Stole Feminism? Host of weekly video blog: The Factual Feminist. Washington, DC aei.org/scholar/christ.. Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers Follow Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers 20m @RollyKahn Interesting.When feminists tried to "correct" sexist themes in romance novels in 80s, they were reviled by readers &industry Is it true that game journalists challenged bad research linking video games to violence,but caved to feminist "studies" linking to sexism? Our new hero Reply t7 Retweet * Favorite More #gamergate #pax Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers Follow It is clear that gamers are being bullied by opportunistic,evidence-free gender warriors.But who are the enablers?Game companies? Bloggers? Reply t7 Retweet * Favorite More RETWEETS FAVORITES 110 97 4:15 PM-30 Aug 2014

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Leigh Alexander being an idiot again.......

Leigh Alexander @leighalexander Follow Isn't Adam Baldwin just like a washed up crackhead? Which one is he again わReply t3 Retweet ★ Favorite More RETWEETSFAVORITES 7 19 6:20 AM-30 Aug 2014

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BasedStephanie

Stephanie Anne @doitalone 1m Also, to those who are twitterblasting there is nothing to #GamerGate- why do you enjoy being lied to by the media? Stephanie Anne @doitalone 58m And I'm especially displeased with my female friends who would seek to make this a feminist issue. It is an integrity issue. #GamerGate 糙 Stephanie Anne @doitalone 8m And to the industry - do you think this would be stood for? Don't you remember payola in the radio industry? #GamerGate 46 ★62 Stephanie Anne @doitalone 1h Video game journalists, just admit you're glorified bloggers with an agenda. #gamergate Stephanie Anne @doitalone Stephanie Anne @doitalone 26m Gamers come from all different backgrounds and genders. A marginalization of that by the gaming press/media should be stopped #GamerGate Platform Manager @AOL #nerd t717 *24 Stephanie Anne @doitalone 35m Female gamers, l urge you not to let the Anita and Zoe's of the world define this issue and turn it into something it isn't #GamerGate Stephanie Anne @doitalone 1h As a life long gamer and pioneer blogger I'm ashamed of the crap going on in the video game industry right now #GamerGate 131421 Stephanie Anne @doitalone 38m Do not let the gaming media turn it into an attack on our hobbies and pigeon hole us as a voice not to be heard. #GamerGate Retweeted by Stephanie Anne Stanley Kuschick @TheManlyStanley Aug 28 4Chan, Tumblr and Reddit working together should be enough indication that there is a problem. #GamerGate わ2.21 *22 t310 ★16 Retweeted by Stephanie Anne Gerard McDermott @McDermie 10h Gamers: "How do you respond to these corruption claims?" Media: "You are all sexists” Gamers: “???" Media: "You are dead to us" #GamerGate 糙 Stephanie Anne @doitalone 39m Gamers, I urge you to keep your voice focused and loud, that we will not stand for this type of corruption. #Gamergate t35 ★11

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Sure Weinstein, resorting to ad hominems is a valid way to argue...

CHRISTINA HOFF SOMMERS WEGHS IN ON GAMERGATE, IS etegory News D2nd reddt DDOS Artackx alect Single ayer, Simple Fi 8-1 Christina Hoft Sommers is the feminist that feminists love to hate thanics to her fact-based criticsms of what the movement has become she's regularty attacked 500al meda by peope who dsapee with har generaly reasionabke viewa. Har latsat controversy? Daring to suggist that gamers just might be people something Gawoer jounalist Adam Weinsten seems to strongly disagree with It aa began with a sing. Twwthom a few days ag エ Christinan H. Sommers Most gamers are not political. They have no desire to hurt anyone They just love their games. So don't confuse hem with vicious trolls. 600 PM , 28 Aug 2014 12 RETWEETS 38 fair stabement and one that necived wery little in the way of bacdash. In fact, mest pecple seamed so be supportive of the ides that milions of gamers anenll potentil rapists and internes trols something that some individuas find ditfiouit to bef eve. Finding new support Sommers posted more about Camergate and the eminist reaction surmounding it Buying Games Was Never Easier! => Click To Buy 139 Christina H. Sommers Gender police in gamer world are going to freak out when they see @rbutaly frank takedown. 43AM-1 Sep 21 8-1 59 RETWEETS 1 Fellow Nero has received death treats for his exposé of cronyism &twisted gender politics in game industry Has no plans for video about threats. Christinan H. Sommers Do video games b Economist defends games from hysterical reed evil? Smart 2005 article from the 1023 AM-1Sep 2014 Most gamers seem to support equality feminism. What they reject is today's male-bashing, propaganda-driven, fernale chauvinism. GamerGate 8-1 222 RETWEETS .33 AWORITES It's that last one that caused a bit of a stink with Gawor joumalist Adam Wi Gosh when you put it that way, harassing a journalist and driving her out of her home seems STILL F------ BONKERS OK twitter.com/chsommers/stat.-. 13PM-35 203 Sarkeesian has always been a controversial Spure-that's what you have to espet when you eport on in the gaming industry in the way she doem Some forgive her for the averal message, which is a poshive one but those that need convinding arent being taught anything. The videos she releases are n edho chambar for those unhappy with the gaming industry. and they den t need to look ay deser than that. Wish that said nobody should ee threats of arrything wiolent, and I've yat so see a singe person actally suggest that t's okay-ept for people saying shat there ane people saying that its okay ammers prabably could have leh it therw, but decided to write back to Weinstein Adam WeinateinAda Gath whan you put ie hat way harassing a journaliet and diving har out o Christina H.Sommers AdamWeinstein Is it your view that male gamers ane collectively guilty because of a few crazies? .@CHSommers No, it's my view that 1》 your caling it collective guilt" is a fallacious, emotional either-or. And 2 S17pM . 1 Sep 2004 CHSommers. You exploited (wyo condemning) her public ardeal to make your non-sequitur political argument about a fictional war on men Adam Weinstein @CHSommers But clearly, being the white knight you dlaim men need seems to be profitable, so don't let me impede. Carry on. 19PM-1 Sep 2034 Ae thia point several of the Gawloer editor's followwrs chime in moding the "MRA supporter. Thare's to and tro between Weinsten and Sommers discussing where she gets her information trom @AdamWeinstein I reviewed a lot of disoussions, looked at lots of data, and then determined that gamers are normal human beings. S RETWEETS 43 mǐ絼erjoyed by people ofàcertain mentality, who callfor her to dte her reseach. tf you've made this far, wlcome so The Twilight Zone: eminist i sying that gamers are human bings and people ae dsagreeing with her and anking her to prove t, as though it's not fairly obvious in the fist instane These are the same people no doubt who rushed to Zoe Quinn's aid when she daimed to be attacked by the denicens of Wizardchan How marry of tham asloed for proof then? How maty are asking for it Adam Weinstein Adarmn doen The only person climing to speak for Christina H. Sommers GAdamWeinstein Adam, I have said some kind words about mean I speak for them.What is your point? 8PM-3 Sep 2014 t gamers. But speaking about a group does not That's not the end of Sommers thoughts on the isue though, and she1 be releasing a video in the coming days

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I know differences between lolbait and trolls, but this one is just a plain psychotic display of cruelty.

Check out http://gamergateharrassment.tumblr.com if you want to know what "gamers" have been hit with these last few days and weeks.

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Welp....

Zoey Goetsclh * Follow @ZoeyGoetsch Disturbing that these gamers that are harassing women rely on women for their happiness & by that I mean their moms. #GamerGate #gamedev Reply Retweet * Favorite More RETWEETS 2 FAVORITE

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This person is absolutely horrible for saying cruel things like these.

I know. Its a repost from Quinnspiracy, but I still cannot believe that someone could spew such a horrifying amount of hatred.

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Downgrade

Ben Quintero @Ben_Quintero 9h Got official note on the downgrade. Was told that my 20 yrs as an engineer in real- time dont matter. I haven't made a notablember Lo game recently The Art & Business of Making Games GAME J0OBS UPDATES BLOGS EVENTS CONTRACTORS NEWSLETTER STORE SEARCH E/TABLET CAMES INDEPENDENT CAMES ON GEAMESETRAR GAME DEVELOPER ON GAMASUTRA CONSOLE/PC GAMES SOCIAL/ONLINE GAMES INDEPENDENT GAMES 目Blogs Can We All Get Along? LOGIN Sign U by Benjamin Quintero on 09/02/14 01:17:00 pmExper t Blogger PROGRAMMING ART The following blog post, unless otherwise noted, was written by a member of Gamasutra's community. The thoughts and opinions expressed are those of the writer and not Gamasutra or its parent company AUDIO Ben Quintero @Ben Quintero 9h DESIGN Trying to fiqure out if my being downgraded on @gamasutra was a glitch or they just didn't like what I had to say? "( #welovegamedevs PRODUCTION When Did This Become Media vs Consumer? @oz BIZ/MARKETING A lot of digital ink has been wasted these last couple of weeks. It's gotten so bad that I've started to find better things to do with my time than visit my favorite gaming sites only to find yet another article on how we as gamers are acting like fools, how we as gamers are to blame for the ilks of the lowest form how we as gamers need to behave accordingly or else the news will cease to exist and we will continue to receive sternly worded open letters about what journalists think the world should be Latest Jobs View All RSS September 3, 2014 Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that nothing should be said or done when someone clearly steps out of line. But what I've found most disturbing is in the manner in which it has been going down. I'm trying to find reasoning in what game's journalists are thinking when they set out on a tirade against the people who basically keep them employed. I could be wrong about this, but I never considered players of games to be nearly as enthusiastic about combing the web for articles and clicking on ad riddled pages to read singular opinionated pieces that belittle their intelligence Whow Games GmbH InnoGames GmbH Lead Community Manager (m/f) 4

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"That list of 1000 game devs is a load of crap"

■ Anonymous 09/02/14 Tue 20:54:09 No.261 321835トー261 322089>>2613221 062226132211822261322151 >>261 322161>>26132221622261322256 >2261322285 >>261322368 File: gamergate.jpg (268 KB, 941x700) I MADE THIS LAUNCH TEAM 201:3 バ、 Xbox dev here, me and most of the guys and gals @ work are against corruption in gaming journalism and smell the b------- of these so called gaming journalists from a mile. Can't go public with it however they help sell our products. But we're still with you on this. That list of 1000 game devs is a load of crap as well

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Indie Dev afraid to defend gamers

Ollie Barder @Cacophanus 8m @vOR467 @phubans Indies are fine, I'm talking about the big studios too #GamerGate Expand Devan Evans @VOR467 6m @Cacophanus @phubans Unfortunately it's slowly coming to light that specific Indie devs and Indie PR places like @Sivrstrng are connected Expand Ollie Barder @Cacophanus 5m @VOR467 @phubans I think there is specific evidence coming to light but the problem is more widespread than people realise. #GamerGate Expand It doesn't matter @ones zeroes 3m @Cacophanus @VOR467 @phubans Would you be willing to talk about it in depth? Expand Ollie Barder @Cacophanus 2m ones_zeroes @VOR467 @phubans If I did I would likely be flipping burgers by the end of the day. 1 /2 #GamerGate Expand Ollie Barder @Cacophanus 43s @ones_zeroes @VOR467 @phubans Ironically, coming out to defend gamers puts 0 me in a very precarious position. #GamerGate

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Ryan offering his thought...

Ryan Jackson な. Follow AkumaTetsuo Yup this pretty much sums it up #GamerGate わReply Retweet * Favorite More YE Gamers are nothing but white cis male misogynists. FauMovements ETWEETSAORITES 78 85 420 AM-2 Sep 2014 Flag media Reply to @AkumaTetsuo

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Can you spot the white straight ablebodied cishets person?

0% We're diverse and we're tired of people talking over us, yes we exist. LMAO, check out these 4chan sockpuppets, I bet you're all actually white straight ablebodied cishets, f------ nerds.

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GamerGate - Oh Christ....

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A Guide to Ending "Gamers" by Devin Wilson on 08/28/14 07:57:00 pm Sohere are some nreiminany tactics rargpse for transformg tet ropose your own in the comments, and offer revisions to mine): 11. We stop upholding "fun" as the universal, ultimate criterion for a game's relevance It's a meaningless ideal at best and a poisonous priority at worst. Fun is a neurological trick. Plenty of categorically unhealthy things are fun". Let's try for something more. Many of the alternatives will have similarly fuzzy definitions, but let's aspire to qualities like edifying" healing", "pro-social", or even "enlightening". I encourage you to decide upon your owrn alternatives to fun" in games (while avoiding terms like cool" and "awesome" and any other word that simply caters to existing, unexamined biases).

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Sep 04, 2014 at 08:26PM EDT

"I encourage you to decide upon your own alternatives to fun in games"

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