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Introduction
Amateur translations of anime/manga/visual novels have been known to make a fairly valid statement into something like this — it’s not the characters being stupid. Professional translations as well, although less frequently. (It’s an occasional side-effect of converting some Japanese sentence structures into English.)

Origin
People die if they are killed is a meme taken from episode 23 of the Fate/Stay Night anime, where the idealistic hero Shirou Emiya, overcome by emotion, confidently shares his worldy wisdom with his Servant, Saber. While actually a play on a idiom that describes incredibly tough people who “won’t die if they’re killed” , the quip was literally intepreted and rapidly rose to acclaim on /a/ as an ironic and mocking example of how characters can be vigorously passionate yet painfully thick. Supplanted more well-known memes on /a/ like “O RLY” as a common response to someone asking or describing something obvious. Needless to say, said stock phrase often appears in other anime/manga sources as well, usually leading to Shirou showing up and “correcting” said instances.
Here’s the phrase:

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20 Comments

Tails Turrosaki
Dec 25, 2009 at 08:39PM UTC , Tails Turrosaki wrote:

People die if they are killed?



ORLY?

Watcher
Dec 25, 2009 at 09:32PM UTC , Watcher wrote:

This is used alot. Maybe meme.

Politi
Dec 25, 2009 at 09:35PM UTC , Politi wrote:

IN SOVIET RUSSIA-
… I can’t. I’m sorry. I just can’t.

Blah-tan
Dec 26, 2009 at 03:08AM UTC , Blah-tan wrote:

I know if you watch the whole series it makes sense when he says that…

Pterodactyl
Dec 26, 2009 at 04:01AM UTC , Pterodactyl wrote:

Fate/Stay Night, right?
Shouldn’t we do an article on all bad subs? There’s Suzaku’s “I will now pleasure my self with this fish,” and the “how can you say you love her if you can’t even eat her poop?”

Chi The Cat
Dec 26, 2009 at 05:00AM UTC , Chi The Cat wrote:

People see book when they read.

Steven R.
Dec 26, 2009 at 05:21AM UTC , Steven R. wrote:

+1 work.
Need moar examples.

Hector Hessy
Dec 27, 2009 at 12:38AM UTC , Hector Hessy wrote:

no..
not a meme..
just another funny anime screen cap

Jamie Dubs
Dec 27, 2009 at 07:12PM UTC , Jamie Dubs wrote:

Enough +1’s to keep this in submissions/researching for the time being

Jamie Dubs
Dec 27, 2009 at 07:14PM UTC , Jamie Dubs wrote:

Should this be filed under Engrish?

Do we have more examples of this being used in the wild? Threads, videos, etc.?

rage guy
Dec 28, 2009 at 01:00AM UTC , rage guy wrote:

you did great research and worked hard on it.

however, it is not a meme.
this is only a somewhat funny picture from an anime cartoon.

Just Use Your Imagination!
Dec 28, 2009 at 07:39AM UTC , Just Use Your Imagination! wrote:

I agree with Rage Guy, but 4chan did popularized the meme :3
To the point that whenever this line is mentioned, some sane people ask “Which anime is this from?” signifying its standing fame from its origin

Just Use Your Imagination!
Dec 28, 2009 at 01:06PM UTC , Just Use Your Imagination! wrote:

@Ptero

Blah-tan
Dec 28, 2009 at 09:34PM UTC , Blah-tan wrote:

^The most awkward phrasing ever…

By itself, the phrase doesn’t make sense (or too much sense). But in context, Saber says before “People don’t die when they are killed” then the phrase comes in, with “That’s the way it should be” taced on the end. So the phrase makes some sense, but somehow became popular than other awkwardly translated sentences.

PLAGIARISM ALERT!
Origin section directly copied from the Lurkmore Wiki.

http://www.lurkmore.com/wiki/Fate/stay_night#People_die_if_they_are_killed

Pterodactyl
Dec 30, 2009 at 11:58PM UTC , Pterodactyl wrote:

@ Blah, I haven’t seen much of F/S N, but I assumed it was talking about the warrior people, and the people who control them. Like, whathisface would die is Saber was killed. But that’s just my 2 cents.

variety927
Jan 18, 2010 at 07:06PM UTC , variety927 wrote:

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every time i try to get the images off my browser shuts down..

Shii
Feb 27, 2010 at 08:16PM UTC , Shii wrote:

The actual translation is “People ought to die when they are killed”

Kataqu
Mar 07, 2010 at 08:52PM UTC , Kataqu wrote:

I wonder if this quote from A Very Potter Musical is a vague reference:

“And you’d think that killing people would make them like you, but it doesn’t! It just – it just… it just makes them dead.”

It’s a long shot, admittedly…

Ubiquitial
Mar 07, 2010 at 10:14PM UTC , Ubiquitial wrote:

This is a meme. Although it is an unconventional one, it

-Stands on it’s own
-Has been parodied
-Is referenced beyond it’s point of origin

As far as I know, that’s all you need

Epic McAwesome
Mar 17, 2010 at 10:18PM UTC , Epic McAwesome wrote:

Yesh, this is a meme. Ive seen it on a couple different sites before…
+1 confirm

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