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KYM Pony General VI: Return of the Poni

Last posted Apr 19, 2013 at 12:20AM EDT. Added Jul 01, 2012 at 04:43PM EDT
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I don't know 'bout you guys, but I think this whole voting thing is getting more complicated than it should be. The Deathly Hasbro title has the most votes. Not a majority, but the most. Yet everyone keeps bitching about why they don't like it. Right now, I just want things to be fair for everyone, alright? The 'Alternative Vote' thing sounds like a good idea on paper, but it also sounds like something that could easily backfire. I'm not opposed to trying out the 'Alternative Vote', but I would prefer if we just took the top three choices and voted on that.

Also, would you people stop suggesting new names for fucks sake

@Verbose
An Alternative Vote, or something alike, sounds fine. Right now, Pony General VI is more obsessed with Pony General VII than ponies, which seems kind of.. weird.


Also.. Today is the day. Today is the day I take my title as Oldest Person in Pony General (It's been this way for a while, but now it's numerically definitive until Verbose's birthday in a few months). Fear me. Or take my walking cane and laugh at my misfortune. Either way, I'm old.

Also.. Today is the day. Today is the day I take my title as Oldest Person in Pony General (It's been this way for a while, but now it's numerically definitive until Verbose's birthday in a few months). Fear me. Or take my walking cane and laugh at my misfortune. Either way, I'm old.Dammit Vazquez, you just had to steal my thunder.

Also.. Today is the day. Today is the day I take my title as Oldest Person in Pony General (It's been this way for a while, but now it's numerically definitive until Verbose's birthday in a few months). Fear me. Or take my walking cane and laugh at my misfortune. Either way, I'm old.Dammit Vazquez, you just had to steal my thunder.EDIT: Why is this doubling up on me? Uhg.

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Sonata Dusk wrote:

@Verbose
An Alternative Vote, or something alike, sounds fine. Right now, Pony General VI is more obsessed with Pony General VII than ponies, which seems kind of.. weird.


Also.. Today is the day. Today is the day I take my title as Oldest Person in Pony General (It's been this way for a while, but now it's numerically definitive until Verbose's birthday in a few months). Fear me. Or take my walking cane and laugh at my misfortune. Either way, I'm old.

Also.. Today is the day. Today is the day I take my title as Oldest Person in Pony General (It's been this way for a while, but now it's numerically definitive until Verbose's birthday in a few months). Fear me. Or take my walking cane and laugh at my misfortune. Either way, I'm old.Dammit Vazquez, you just had to steal my thunder.

Also.. Today is the day. Today is the day I take my title as Oldest Person in Pony General (It's been this way for a while, but now it's numerically definitive until Verbose's birthday in a few months). Fear me. Or take my walking cane and laugh at my misfortune. Either way, I'm old.Dammit Vazquez, you just had to steal my thunder.EDIT: Why is this doubling up on me? Uhg.

*AHEM
My birthday Aug. 2 1970
but Happy Birthday anyways

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Sonata Dusk wrote:

@Verbose
An Alternative Vote, or something alike, sounds fine. Right now, Pony General VI is more obsessed with Pony General VII than ponies, which seems kind of.. weird.


Also.. Today is the day. Today is the day I take my title as Oldest Person in Pony General (It's been this way for a while, but now it's numerically definitive until Verbose's birthday in a few months). Fear me. Or take my walking cane and laugh at my misfortune. Either way, I'm old.

Also.. Today is the day. Today is the day I take my title as Oldest Person in Pony General (It's been this way for a while, but now it's numerically definitive until Verbose's birthday in a few months). Fear me. Or take my walking cane and laugh at my misfortune. Either way, I'm old.Dammit Vazquez, you just had to steal my thunder.

Also.. Today is the day. Today is the day I take my title as Oldest Person in Pony General (It's been this way for a while, but now it's numerically definitive until Verbose's birthday in a few months). Fear me. Or take my walking cane and laugh at my misfortune. Either way, I'm old.Dammit Vazquez, you just had to steal my thunder.EDIT: Why is this doubling up on me? Uhg.

@Derpy Vazquez
Takes your cane and laughs at your misfortune.

Hahahahaha.

Ahem. Thank you, though. I’ve done my normal celebration: two glasses of scotch and good feelings. I’ll probably watch ponies in the morning. That’ll be a new one.


@DeadParrot222
Can't I just eat Fluffle Puff? I'm pretty sure she's made of cotton candy.



Concerning my previous post: I just don't know what went wrong.



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@Crazy

Happy spawning day! I'm '87 too. Although I already turned 26 so I'm technically older than you!

I poke my tongue at thee :P

But seriously, happy b-day :)


@Thread title

Quit your yapping and just use the deathly hasbro already

It's just a title, sheesh, who cares? And I wanted to name it after mammary glands


@All Previous discussions

Oh man…so many multiple humongous discussions of various complicated subjects and I'm way behind the loop here.

There was a time when I had the patience to read through that and respond with my own massive TL;DR but now my head hurts from a long day at work and I only have a few hours left to play CoH before I go do even more work. Priorities.

Full time jobs really stunt your ability to brony. Let me know when we have a less intense discussion topic. Until then, back to lurking. Meep meep PEEOW!

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Blue Screen:

@Thread title

Quit your yapping and just use the deathly hasbro already

Pony Geveral VII: the Deathly Hasbro?

That's… the most brilliant thing I've heard all day!

It works on so many levels! I will be a little disappoint if that suggestion doesn't win.

On a side note, I was paging through an old issue of Entertainment Weekly a couple days ago and there was a half-page article about the Season Finale with a big picture of Twilight (form of: Princess!). They even mentioned Bronies a bit. Go figure…

I think you might be a tad late to the game on both notes, Commodore…


I'm working on images right now, but I'm going to make a poll to determine how we choose the title of the thread and whether Twilight Sparkle and the Deathly Hasbro should even be considered regardless of the method of voting.

Verbose wrote:

I think you might be a tad late to the game on both notes, Commodore…


I'm working on images right now, but I'm going to make a poll to determine how we choose the title of the thread and whether Twilight Sparkle and the Deathly Hasbro should even be considered regardless of the method of voting.

Tsk, I know… I am ashamed…

That magazine was from months ago… It was in a thrift store…

Crazy☾ said:

Can’t I just eat Fluffle Puff? I’m pretty sure she’s made of cotton candy.

With her record, it's more likely that she will try to eat you.


@Verbose
I suggest a completely fair and totally-not-biased-at-all form of free voting!
Just give all the ballot boxes to Trixie and she will do all the hard work for you!
Only the greatest and most powerfullest choice will win!

Come on, she looks legit.

Last edited Mar 14, 2013 at 01:41PM EDT

Here's an idea:

Do the vote TOURNAMENT STYLE.

Take up to eight nominees, then have everyone vote one or the other. The winners of these four go on to the semifinals, the finals, and BAM! The best one wins! So if "Deathly Hasbro" gets to the finals, those who like it vote, those who don't vote for the other one, (which is probably pretty good, too), and then we see how that turns out!

Possible downside: takes a while, and each of us would have to vote in seven different polls, but still!

@People suggesting we revote or something?

Liking the outcome of the poll aside, I think this just kicks the door open for shenanigans. What happens if another option that a lot of people hate wins? Would we have to revote agian? This is getting pretty hard to follow as it is.

maybe I should just shut up and post cute.

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@Iamslow

…I just do what makes the users happy, dude.
 
But to defend the potential revote harder, Twilight Sparkle and the Deathly Hasbro has the unfortunate implication that we simply don't like Hasbro. That can drive off newcomers before they even see what we're about, and it may make that intern that watches this thread feel bad about his or her job.

Some people dislike it for that reason, and I personally think that reason in itself is enough reason to reconsider that choice. Others say that even if most people like an option, if enough dislike that option and aren't neutral towards it, then it should have a lot more support than something with a simple majority (as opposed to a true or overwhelming majority.) Whereas "I don't like it" by itself in numbers that doesn't exceed those who voted for it isn't enough of a reason for me.

But we'll jump that bridge if the matter comes up again.


Also, Hector is boss.

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I have an even better solution than the Electoral College idea:

Impose a military junta.

Then you don't have to worry about nasty things like democratic polls and fair voting. And, as an added bonus, you can declare [insert pony here] our glorious Eternal President. Even better, as long as you keep those communist pigs out, you'll have NATO's full support and get piles of foreign aid from the US.

xTSGx wrote:

I have an even better solution than the Electoral College idea:

Impose a military junta.

Then you don't have to worry about nasty things like democratic polls and fair voting. And, as an added bonus, you can declare [insert pony here] our glorious Eternal President. Even better, as long as you keep those communist pigs out, you'll have NATO's full support and get piles of foreign aid from the US.

The thing about rule by force is it often starts rebellions.

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to Advance.

Not that it wouldn't be simpler to just pick a name and tell us to deal with it. haha

So I finally watched the Princess Twilight Alicorn episode last night. I've been working so much that I hadn't watched it and I was avoiding Pony General cuz spoilers. So I'm back now for a bit. I have a week off then starting on a pilot for 3 weeks

BulletproofBrony, Not Dead Melia wrote:

The thing about rule by force is it often starts rebellions.

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to Advance.

Not that it wouldn't be simpler to just pick a name and tell us to deal with it. haha

That's why you satiate the masses with ponies. Who would dare lead a rebellion when they have this to stare at all day?

@Derpy Vazquez

Good, good. Let the Twilicorn flow through you.

@Crazy☾

I hope I'm not too late to say this

On an unrelated note, I'm going on vacation for spring break and I'll be leaving tomorrow. I usually come here everyday and I don't think I'll be able to do that while I'm gone. I don't wanna miss out on any voting shit and I REALLY don't wanna miss out on the next thread (that is, if this thread reaches 200 pages over spring break). I don't know how often I'll be able to come back here, but I'll do my best so that I don't miss anything. This could be my last post for a while, soooooooooo………bye.

Okay… I just noticed some things… And I have come up with a crazy theory. But first, let's look at some canon.

1: Twilight became an Alicorn thanks to achieving the highest level of understanding of Magic and Friendship. Which is both her Element of Harmony, and her Special Talent. She also performs something with the full power of this knowledge to do so.

2: Cadence, as noted in the Crystal Heart Spell (Book), being a former Pegasus, became an Alicorn by a near total understanding of Love. She also, from what I've heard, performed some demonstration of that knowledge to do so.

That there already shows a working theory I stole from someone else; that going beyond mere mastery of one's talent grants Alicornhood under certain circumstances unique to the pony.

(Note: It would be rude to say that it's not possible for your everyday work pony talents, cause Greek mythology had Hephaestus: God of Blacksmiths.)

But working off of this, there is an open question that needs to be addressed.

What about some other ponies we know? How would they reach Alicorn-hood?

Could Dash reach Alicornhood by going beyond mastery of knowledge of what Loyalty means?
Could Applejack reach Alicornhood by going beyond mastery of knowledge of what Honesty means?
Could Rarity reach Alicornhood by going beyond mastery of knowledge of what Generosity means?
Could Pinkie Pie reach Alicornhood by going beyond mastery of knowledge of what Laughter making others happy means?
Could Fluttershy reach Alicornhood by going beyond mastery of knowledge of what Kindness means?

(…Wait, that last one sounds like it's not far off. Fluttershy next Alicorn Princess?)

I'm going to assume yes, seeing as our only evidence we have points that way.

Of course, that still leaves us with a large question of what each pony's "Great work" to have them exemplify their Element would be. Which I'm assuming is a large part of the process considering both known ascended Alicorns have done one.
(Which in mythological terms is reminiscent one of the parameters of what one needs to do to fulfill "the Ultimate Alchemy". Which from my limited knowledge sounds remarkably like the process for becoming an Alicorn.)

Now, with that taken care of saying, I get the distinct feeling someone should make a Fan-fic about an Earth Pony Blacksmith becoming an Alicorn Princess by going above and beyond mastery of the art of the forge… Crafting some legendary weapon or something in the process as well to act as the catalyst.

Cautious Edit: Do not confuse me raising the possibilities about Alicorn ascension with me endorsing it happening again, saying it will definitely happen, or that it will happen at all. I'm just explaining the how and why of what makes it happen. Any judgement on those other issues is something I withhold until we have something to work with.

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@Lunar protege

Sure…why not?

I mean, personally I really don't like the idea of the alicorn upgrade being what happens when a pony maxes out its power level, but your reasoning is entirely sound given the established canon. Seeing how it worked for Twilight and Cadance, a pony should get their horn/wings upon gaining true understanding of some Platonic concept like love or friendship…whatever the hell that means.

Hmmm…I want to see the justice alicorn. You know, the pony that became an alicorn by gaining 'true understanding' of justice.

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@Faust Stuff.

The part where it said Twilight was originally meant to have a blue mane is already interesting.

And then one person replies to that info with: "Fanart incoming"

…Well… Considering recolors of Twilight are fairly common, wouldn't it be fair to say it already exists?

In fact, One Recolor of Twilight Sparkle I did for an Alternate timeline of some huge fan story I've attempted to write fit that description pretty well.

But considering the idea of what shades of blue she'd be, and maybe if that would apply to her coat as well, that kinda leaves us with the question of who would have the biggest claim to having the canon alternate Twilight Sparkle.

At this point, if we assume every Blue recolor of Twilight qualifies, we can assume that "Original Concept" Twilight could have been drawn thousands of times by now. By Accident.

And then, now that Its been announced how things could have been, people are now going to figure out some head-canon on what that would have looked like. But everyone's idea is going to be different.

Not really sure where I'm going with this. Just a silly meandering series of musings.

@Faust Twitter
What what what? Nightmare Moon was originally Discord???

To think… in some strange alternate universe there is no Nightmare Moon, there is only Discord. By that matter, in another weird alternate universe, there is no Discord and only Nightmare Moon.

I think we got the best of both worlds here.

Twilight Twinkle… sounds too much like Twilight Twinkie to me. I've gotta say I like Sparkle more.

Still, that's some pretty neat info there.

@Pinkie's Sugar Rush

She's still able to go at speeds that only barely stay under super-sonic. You sure it isn't still in?

If it was a thing added at this point, it would be like Caffenee bullet time, where from her perspective, everything slows down, but she's covering every inch of Ponyville a hundred times over in a single second.

And then Temporal Shenanigans, since not even Light travels that fast normally.

@Scootaloo School Fights.

It's funny… The image supplied already reminds us that she gets into school disputes… Just not over her inability to fly.


Speaking of Scootaloo, random Musing:

Maybe Scootaloo's flight problem is a matter of "Lift".

We've seen her wings are quite capable of forward momentum, but so far, she hasn't shown any ability to go upward.

Why?

From what I can guess, her wings have plenty of speed, and her wings aren't much smaller than other fillies who can fly.

But here's the thing… Notice she sort of "Buzzes" them. A movement from more the body than the middle of the wing. She's essentially refusing to use half the natural function of her wings. One that in real life birds gives them the ability to make their wings into shapes that provide adequate lift.

If you're going to go the "She's completely incapable of flying" route, basically then a good pair of theories are that the bones in her wings could be fused, making them incapable of bending properly. Or that the muscles responsible for that bending in the middle of the wing are atrophied for some reason.

…Although that second case, one possible explanation that's less permanent could be that they are weak because she might never be using those muscles properly cause she never figured it out, so they wither from under-use. In which case, my advice for her would be to do a lot of stretches and contractions of those muscles until the get some function back.

I'm not a doctor though, so there may be other reasons.

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DeadParrot222 wrote:

More Twitter!


Luna's definitely better, but Selena's not bad…




Pinkie got nerfed!
… and she's still pretty damn crazy!




This. NEEDS. TO. HAPPEN.


Christ man, were you just coying from Faust's notebook when you wrote Tiny Wings?

Fifths wrote:

Christ man, were you just coying from Faust's notebook when you wrote Tiny Wings?

Totally not me.
Like, totally.

(God, this video is so epically creepy.)


Oh god, they talk!


Pfft- I don't even-

@Talking Rainbow Dash USB

Oh god! That sounds so nerdy, it's like some kind of show off 1337 hacker showing off their skills in some cyberpunk anime.

It's also incredibly awesome in its own way.

There needs to be a hacker/cyberpunk version of Rainbow Dash out there, that is too cool to not be a tumblr blog.

A Flashdrive that talks? We could've used the time and money to help out the poor folk from Ethiopia instead of making a talking flashdrive. It just makes me realize just how much we squander our money when these people have to sit in a board room and say "You know what My Little Pony needs? Flashdrives, that talk!".

Needless to say I'll take 20 because I have A lot of porn that needs to be transferred at a moment's notice

Edit: Holy shitballs look at this man. The best part of Just For Sidekicks is now an interactive flash

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Due to a possible derailment of a seperate NSFW image thread, I'll post the following questions, by users asked there, here:

You’re in the middle making love to best pony, when your sibling/parent walks in the room. What do?

Would you want to make love to your favorite pony if you had the opportunity to?

You’re in love with your 2nd favorite pony, and after 5 months of your relationship, your 1st fave becomes attracted to you. What do?

Your favorite pony becomes possesed by a demon, and is out to kill you. However, you can sacrifice 5 ponies in order to save her, but everyone else would hate you for taking their lives.

Second best pony (or humanized pony, if you prefer) becomes sexually attracted to you, but you only like second best pony as a friend. One night they come to you crying and say they just really need the D. What do?

I might answer them myself as well, based on how people pick up on it.

Last edited Mar 16, 2013 at 02:02PM EDT

@RandomMan:
1. Look them in the eye and continue.
2. Does a bear shit in the woods?
3. Why not both?
4. >implying a demon is a match for the D
5. …..

Is this serious?

Is there anybody who would not give the D on number 5? Really?

Actually, I revise my answers.

1. Give
2. Her
3. The
4. Le
5. D

@Lauren Faust stuff:

I like a lot of the changes that have been made more than the original, but the Carousel Couture being an ACTUAL carousel with mannequins for horses sounds immensely creative, really.

@Lunar about the alicorn stuff:

About the deal with going beyond talents and all… Are we even sure that Cadence is the princess from the book with the Love Poison? I mean, it's an okay theory, but I'm not sure if we have much evidence to back it up. I've heard theories that the princess became Queen Chrysalis due to needing love or something.

Beyond that, I'm not sure if that's why Twilight became an alicorn. She was Celestia's student and had been trained for it for a long time. She mastered friendship as a whole, not just a single element, and she mastered magic to boot (as an element and as a thing itself). She's also saved Equestria several times. Though her friends aided her through almost all of it, she was still the leader and did a lot of the saving (Discord deal, the Magical Mystery Cure, etc.)

That said, I wouldn't say it's impossible for the others to become alicorns, just that it's not actually the same as just learning a ton about your element, at least in my opinion. Love isn't an Element of Harmony (maybe the Elements of Love or something exist, but we have no evidence so it's not relevant), and Cadence is still an alicorn. For that matter, Sun and Moon aren't Elements, and Luna and Celestia are alicorns. Luna even became an evil arguably much worse than Discord and Queen Chrysalis. So, it's possible to be born an alicorn, if I'm any judge. Further, I don't think all alicorns are immortal, like Celestia and Luna, since Cadence seems to age just as much as Twilight and Shining Armor. Which is why I think that Twilight won't outlive her friends, and Cadence won't outlive Shining Armor.

This is all mostly speculation, anyways, but considering the fandom we're in…

Point is, I think Twilight is a bitch-whore and needs to die.

RandomMan

It's funny how the NSFW image thread is having so much trouble staying focused on NSFW images.

You’re in the middle making love to best pony, when your sibling/parent walks in the room. What do?

If best pony were humanized, I'd probably ask why they were at my apartment totally unannounced amidst anger and embarrassment. If best pony were a pony, the best I could probably do is crack a joke, "But moooooooom, everyone's doing it."

Would you want to make love to your favorite pony if you had the opportunity to?

If she were human. If she were human…

You’re in love with your 2nd favorite pony, and after 5 months of your relationship, your 1st fave becomes attracted to you. What do?

I guess it depends on the disparity between how much I like first and second favorite ponies. In my case, there's a pretty big gap between my favorite pony and my second favorite, so I'd probably have to have a talk with second favorite.

Your favorite pony becomes possessed by a demon, and is out to kill you. However, you can sacrifice 5 ponies in order to save her, but everyone else would hate you for taking their lives.

Fly Saddle Arabia, sacrifice five Bedouin ponies no one back home would have ever heard of, and then set my favorite pony free.

Second best pony (or humanized pony, if you prefer) becomes sexually attracted to you, but you only like second best pony as a friend. One night they come to you crying and say they just really need the D. What do?

We may just be friends, but what are friends for?

@ExplosiveLazers

About the deal with going beyond talents and all… Are we even sure that Cadence is the princess from the book with the Love Poison?

The Love poison… What? I wasn't talking about that! …Wrong Book!

This is the book I meant! Not the Book about whatever the love poison stuff is going on.

@random
ITT: We are /mlp/
You’re in the middle making love to best pony, when your sibling/parent walks in the room. What do?
Hug the pony non-sexually.

Would you want to make love to your favorite pony if you had the opportunity to?
I would wait until we are both at the age of consent, then we will have consensual sex in the missionary position for the purpose of procreation.

You’re in love with your 2nd favorite pony, and after 5 months of your relationship, your 1st fave becomes attracted to you. What do?

Polygamy is heresy, I would either dump my second favorite pony in favor of my favorite pony or charge my first favorite pony for heresy and send her to the emperor of her judgement.

Your favorite pony becomes possessed by a demon, and is out to kill you. However, you can sacrifice 5 ponies in order to save her, but everyone else would hate you for taking their lives.
1. Applejack
2. Rainbow Dash
3. Rarity
4. Twilight Sparkle
5. Fluttershy

Second best pony (or humanized pony, if you prefer) becomes sexually attracted to you, but you only like second best pony as a friend. One night they come to you crying and say they just really need the D. What do?

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Luna Protege wrote:

@ExplosiveLazers

About the deal with going beyond talents and all… Are we even sure that Cadence is the princess from the book with the Love Poison?

The Love poison… What? I wasn't talking about that! …Wrong Book!

This is the book I meant! Not the Book about whatever the love poison stuff is going on.

From what I've seen of the book (the uploaded images via derpibooru initially), it's a fairly simple read and definitely feels like it could have been incorporated into the show. Yes there are some continuity errors (this being the second time the mane six travel to the Crystal Empire and Trixie being evil, current theory is this was written prior to those episodes being conceived), it is addressing a few of the issues that the fandom is/was/still panicking over. It shows that Twilight has a place in Canterlot but resides in Poniville. Why? I have a feeling we'll get that explanation during the season four premiere. We know she not fully comfortable with being called "princess" and has to remind her friends to just call her Twilight. If this is a small reflection of how things are changing yet staying the same, I'm okay with it.

RandomMan wrote:

Due to a possible derailment of a seperate NSFW image thread, I'll post the following questions, by users asked there, here:

You’re in the middle making love to best pony, when your sibling/parent walks in the room. What do?

Would you want to make love to your favorite pony if you had the opportunity to?

You’re in love with your 2nd favorite pony, and after 5 months of your relationship, your 1st fave becomes attracted to you. What do?

Your favorite pony becomes possesed by a demon, and is out to kill you. However, you can sacrifice 5 ponies in order to save her, but everyone else would hate you for taking their lives.

Second best pony (or humanized pony, if you prefer) becomes sexually attracted to you, but you only like second best pony as a friend. One night they come to you crying and say they just really need the D. What do?

I might answer them myself as well, based on how people pick up on it.

1: My family loves animals, especially horses, so probably something along the lines of "I bet someone's looking forward to their new centaur grandson/grandaughter!"

2: I don't know man…RD seems like she might be into some nasty S & M shit.

3: I'm guessing Vinyl is pretty open minded, so it's kay.

4: That depends on whether or not I can clone Fluttershy.

5: Vinyl wants the D? Okay, here's what I do. First I run my index finger up the G string until I find that sweet spot: She just loves my fingering you know. Then, when I've got her ready to sing, I give her the D.

And we make beautiful, beautiful music together!

Skeletor-sm

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