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IRC Nick: iFailatIRC
Sexuality: Heterosexual
Gender: Male
Religion: Christian (Born Again)

IRC Nick: Kourosh
Heterosexual
Male
Catholic

Main IRC Nick: Pumbloom
Sexuality: Hetrosexual
Gender: Male
Religion Christian

IRC: three_kole_five (alts: threekolefive, three_mobile_5)
Sexuality: Heterosexual
Gender: Male
Religion: Catholic (non practicing, and probably now either agnostic or atheist, but officially Catholic)

Sexuality: Bisexual
Gender: Male
Religion: Agnostic

I may have not read enough on this thread, but may I inquire as to where the results are located?

Right here. Also linked in the OP.

Sexuality: Bi (Effeminate preference.)
Gender: Female (MtF Gender Fluid)
Religion: Shinto (If you can't be bothered to create a whole new section just for that, throw me under Buddhist or Pagan and denote me as Shinto.)

IRC: Spider-Byte
Sexuality: Heterosexual (Possibly Bisexual)
Gender: Male
(Lack of) Religion: Atheist

>gynephile

Hmm, I wonder what that means…

Attraction to women without defining your own gender. The meaning of the terms heterosexual and homosexual change based upon whether you identify as male or female, while the meaning of gynephile will be the same no matter what your gender is.

Honestly that always seemed the more sensible way to define sexuality to me. Homosexual doesn't tell you the gender of the person it's describing or the person they're attracted to just that they are the same. Gynephile and Androphile describe the object of attraction rather than the relationship between the people.

In a world of people who just want to know who they like, it would make more sense. However, the terms grew in a world where anyone who wasn't heterosexual was "the other". Thus, they grew popular.

I guess agnostic.

Shinto is classified as Polytheistic, but not Pagan.

Shinto is it's own religion, although in Japan, it's very common to mix Buddhism and Shinto.

Alright here I go….

Name: Cecaelia girlie

Sexuality: Bi/Pansexual, to simplify my sexuality to an extreme. Heteromantic Homosexual wouod be slightly more accurate, but it's still simplifying it. Basically, I can only KIND of find men sexy at best, finding a man I can be attracted to that isn't a super feminine crossdressing trap is difficult… However, I am only interested in forming a romantic relationship with men. It is infinitely easier to find a woman I'm attracted to, but not ony would I'd never want to date a woman, I'd also never want to have sex woth a woman, despite my extreme sexual attraction to them.

Gender: Female… However, whenever I try to picture myself in a relationship with a woman, I get a strong desire to be male? I think these feelings are partially leftovers from when I was a kid who thought lesbianism was wrong and that only men can be with women and…partially something else? I completely identify as female otherwise.

Religion: I have no idea. I do not believe God can be disapproved. I hope there is an afterlife, but admittedly, I don't want Gods to exist. I'm extremely doubtful of all religions and am afraid that there is nothing after death, but I am also afraid that a form of Christianity is real and I'll go to Hell.

….I am a confused , troubled soul.

@Cecaelia
I put you under gynephile, which means that you are attracted to femininity, thus accounting for your thing about traps. I added a side note for heteromantic.

I wasn't sure what to add as a note for female, so I just left it at "female". It sounds like you might have a bit of genderqueerness (your gender not fully matching your birth sex) going on though, so maybe you should find someone to talk you through those feelings.

And for religion, I put you under Atheist, with a note of "(uncertain)". I hope that's acceptable for the purposes of the list.

I didn't put down that I was trans because I didn't realise that you were collecting that as well as how we identify.

I added that to it. If there's any little details you want to add, I'm able to put them in, in parentheses after the main thing. All information is what you opt to give though – whatever you feel comfortable sharing. No level of detail is required.

I'm sure I mentioned this before, but I when I was coming to terms with my sexuality and figuring out what I believed, Buddhism had a particular draw because the four noble truths seemed logical enough (although I'm not quite certain I believe or disbelieve in the fourth one, no offense) and the eightfold path seemed like a good idea in general (if a little vauge).
However, that's basically all I learned in history class, so I tried to find out more, but there were so many different branches, and so much history, and so many concepts that I eventually gave up and stuck with agnostic.

Reading the bits about gynophilia and the likes, can you please add "(maybe more gynosexual)" next to my "heterosexual" choice please?
Thank you.

I noticed you have 1 guy listed as "Non-Religious".

Why? I mean is there a difference? I thought Atheism covered the point of "not part of a religion".

IRC Name: Wisehowl
Gender: Male
Sex: Asexual
Religion: Church of Christ Christianity

IRC Name: Tiramisu
Gender: Female
Sexuality: Bisexual
Religion: None

It was at his request. He said he was rather complicated and thus specifically said he wanted "non religious".

Also, atheism is the absence of a belief in one of more gods. There are many atheistic religions. Paganism, Buddhism, and satanism are three which are open to being atheistic.

Gender: Male
Sexuality: Heterosexual
Religion: Agnostic

This reply you're giving is more a "well they might still follow some religion, just not the deity part."

I think it's fair to say people who answered Atheism specifically meant non-religious and not closet-Buddhist, myself included.

So you might want to fix that.

Religion is heavily measured by how you identify. Many say Christians are those who hold to the Nicene Creed, but there are many who claim to be Christian and do not. Many say they are those who worship the Trinity, but there are others who do not. Some say they are those who see Jesus as, at least, a good moral teacher; others might even go so far as to say you don't need that to be a Christian.

So, I'm going with what people identify as. I'm not going to be the definer of religions. I might go "is that what you really meant?", but unless they decide otherwise I'm keeping it in there.

A la Pastafarianism.

>guy asks to be non-religious because "it's complicated"
>rivers makes the absence of believing in a religion even more complicated

This is now getting too deep for me to make any sense out of it.

Just throw me at non-religious until I can make any sense of the direction you wish to go with this list on the religious part. I would advice some sort of clearance, because atheism is your biggest load and I doubt all of them mean what you're spouting now.

I answered atheism under the idea that it would cover "doesn't believe in- or follow a religion", nothing of the vague definitions or inbetweens; what all the holy books write are cool life guidelines at most to me.

Religion is complicated. Basically everything I've read leads to the conclusion that it's hard to define a lot of it. It probably would have been better to start with religious identity, like I did with the chart.

I was complicating the idea of atheism, not no religion. Well, if you count using the literal, strict definition as complicating.

I'll move ya over to non-religious, RM. If anyone else sees this and wants to be classified as non-religious and not atheist, speak up and I'll move you.

It's not necessarily complicated for how people are most likely answering it, it is only you who is making it more complicated than necessary.

>guy: "I'm an atheist"
>Rivers: "Probably non-religious, but could also be a Buddhist who follows several teachings of Christianity alongside it while only calling it atheism. Hail Satan!"
>guy: "Wtf?"

This is a memesite survey, nothing big and complicated. Those who want specifics added will probably mention it.

You can just merge non-religious with atheism, and then fill in "specifically non-religious" between brackets for that one guy behind it. Any non-religious dude who is then still pretty zen with Buddha can just point it out.

It's because it's a meme site survey that I'm not checking everyone going "are you atheist or non religious? Are you really agnostic or are you atheist? Maybe you also mean non-religious?" The categories are there because religion is a fuzzy idea and I don't want to put in the effort to make everyone go into the "right" one, just the one they said they fit into.

We have two separate views on the best way to treat this, despite working from "It's not serious".

And your system to place brackets for specific focusses and other works well with that. Which is why I suggested that merge solution. Merge it, and if they specifically come forward "no man it's a whole other tier, I'm specialsnowflakeism", then you can go into categories.

I honestly do not see what makes this specific case so complicated.

To give one guy an entire category for non-religious, while most likely everyone answers atheism with a similar mindset as the non-religious guy, is only going to lead to confusion. You don't need to dig for specifics to be able to assume this much.

With gender you didn't even make a trans category, but just merged all trans folks in male and female with brackets for the trans folks, yet here it now needs seperation because "it's complicated".

Hell, it is because of that confusion that I wanted to move. If you're claiming it's nothing complicated in the end, just move me back. I don't need to be lumped with special snowflakes.

Draw the line somewhere, you're driving off course.

You made a decent point there, so I'm merging non-religious and atheist. I'm wondering why though it was worth this much debating to, in the end, get one guy moved from one category to another, on a poll that's probably nearly done. I don't think there are many people left who want to join.

Was it worth debating? Probably not, but that depends on how folks would react if they made the same discovery as me.

My question was fairly simple, and I assumed you would be easily enough willing to merge them.

But then instead you went into the deep zone and suddenly called the entire list of atheist folks a pletora of other possibilies. That didn't sit well with me, and I felt it would only hurt your survey if folks would read back on it afterwards, as they would get annoyed because that wasn't what they intended to answer. Then you would need to go back and fix the survey 200 times.

How dare I use the actual definition of atheism and note that religion is a complicated thing. Shame on me.

you’re driving off course.

Easy to say when you didn't set the course in the first place. From the beginning I recognized religion was fuzzy and I couldn't reasonably vet everyone to make sure they used the "right" terms for what they believe. So I went with what they said.

Hey Rivers I think you got the wrong door, Tumblr's two blocks down.

I guess it was too early to remove the training wheels.

Sexuality: Straight
Gender: Male
Religion: Mormonism

GhettoRobin
Male
Heterosexual
Non-theistic

Male
Heterosexual
Agnostic (Partially Buddhist)

KYM Age and/or Political Ideology survey when?

The hardest part of this was absolutely annihilating discussing my methods with RM, once I figured out how to do it. You could do it, Nilus, or I could make another one in a while.

Gender: Male
Sexuality: Bisexual
Religious views: Agnostic

Eglamore on IRC

- Male
- Heterosexual
- Apatheist Ignostic

Male

Hetero

Agnostic

Male
Bisexual
Agnostic

Serious question so that I am better informed: what is "gynephile", and how is it different from "lesbian" or "heterosexual male"?

Because by the pure, root meaning of the word, I'm sure I'd be a gynephile.

EDIT DW saw Syndic's explanation up above (thanks dude).