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Karnage wrote:

Indeed, that was one of my favorite moments in TV history,
it still has its moments now though.

I agree, theres a newer episode about slide wistles that's pretty hilarious, but yeah the show was best in it's early years.

Last edited Oct 02, 2011 at 03:21PM EDT

Also, I would like to add that when there is dissonance among this community, there is at least one person who becomes the voice of reason and settles the issue right away. Usually, when things end up in a shitstorm, people do not know how to handle the issue.

I'm glad that this community knows how to fix this, and that is why I'm proud to be a brony and to be in this community.

So, I've been thinking about beginning to draw ponies. I got a Wacom Bamboo board, and Paint Tool SAI (wich I've heard is the best.). Now I'd like to get some guides, both for Paint Tool SAI and well, drawing ponies.

Thank you.

Freakinator wrote:

So, I've been thinking about beginning to draw ponies. I got a Wacom Bamboo board, and Paint Tool SAI (wich I've heard is the best.). Now I'd like to get some guides, both for Paint Tool SAI and well, drawing ponies.

Thank you.

Gigatoast! Quick!

Freakinator wrote:

So, I've been thinking about beginning to draw ponies. I got a Wacom Bamboo board, and Paint Tool SAI (wich I've heard is the best.). Now I'd like to get some guides, both for Paint Tool SAI and well, drawing ponies.

Thank you.

I got me one o' dem tablets too! (that should be pretty obvious, since it's my avatar) The hardest part is learning to draw without looking at your hands. As for a program, I'm running on an ten year old version of photoshop, and apart from a few bugs here and there it's served me well over the years.

Gigatoast wrote:

I got me one o' dem tablets too! (that should be pretty obvious, since it's my avatar) The hardest part is learning to draw without looking at your hands. As for a program, I'm running on an ten year old version of photoshop, and apart from a few bugs here and there it's served me well over the years.

I've been using it alot for photoediting in Gimp, so I'm pretty used with it by now.

Freakinator wrote:

I've been using it alot for photoediting in Gimp, so I'm pretty used with it by now.

That's good, I think I had my tablet for about a year before I actually learned to use it. :P

Do ya want me to go over my pony drawing technique for you?

Dr. Gregory Horse The Pony Medic wrote:

Hello everyone.

@Jolly I don't know where did you take that from, but I posted my answer on the entry.

@Connor I don't know what to post, so here's Sniper riding Twilight.

EDIT: We're screwed: she knows !!!

@ DA user:

Why did you post that… (facehoof)

Dr. Gregory Horse The Pony Medic wrote:

Hello everyone.

@Jolly I don't know where did you take that from, but I posted my answer on the entry.

@Connor I don't know what to post, so here's Sniper riding Twilight.

EDIT: We're screwed: she knows !!!

I did not know about that until now really.

badsitrep wrote:

Dear Lauren Faust,
WTF were you expecting? Its the internet.*

Sincerely,
badsitrep

See Rule 34 of the *Rules of the Internet

R34 applies to everything anyone's made ever. I'm sure she was expecting it, that doesn't mean she has to like it.

Jolly Jew wrote:

you know, after analizing the behavior of the fanbase i came to a pretty sad conclusion…

the bronies aree a very insecure and inconfident fan base….

they refuse to get bad opinions about them, they always seek attention. they get insulted very easily – you can tell by all the "U MAD?" pictures that always come in response to the haters. and they constatly try to get more people to watch the show..
admit it, you have seen bronies behave like that. and ill be honest. i behave like that. as much as i love this fandom i am really insecure about im constatly seeking more places with positive opinions about it…

i am no psychologist but think this has to do with the fact that despite how proud bronies can be they still feel akward for liking a girls' show and constatly search for more fans so they won't feel loenly about this….

either this. or I just some seirous problems…. =\

@Everyone responding: In all honesty, those who've tried have offered up some pretty weak arguments. Also, I don't see what good it does to insult a person on the web. It may play more into Jolly Jew's insecurity argument, actually.

@Jolly Jew

  • Insecure and unconfident fanbase. You may have a point, but not for the reasons you're thinking. The geeky Internet culture as we know is a shadow culture: most of the people cannot ascribe to mainstream norms. On the whole, we are not square-jawed, athletic, confident, baritone-voiced, properly proportioned, physically attractive people. As such, we're not going to pursue stereotypically mainstream norms and activities like sports, clubbing, or dating to the same extent as those who have attributes that make those activities more feasible on the whole.

Example: How many sports do you most of you guys play now? (and are you really any good at them?) How many girls have you seriously dated/slept with? On a given night you have free, do you go out to bars to hang out with your friends or do you play video games? Did you win most attractive/most popular/most likely to succeed/Mr. Mrs. X High School/most athletic/any other superlative? At different times in life, these are indicators of properly achieving or having desirable mainstream qualities (not implying that "normal" is the ideal, but it is desirable for most.)

  • The entire geek portion of the web is more insecure and unconfident than those who can ascribe to the initially desired mainstream. Being Yay~ or neigh towards ponies is irrelevant. If were we more confident, we would be out with people instead of spending most of our free-time on the web or playing a video game. Doesn't matter if it's Team Fortress 2 or MLP.
  • Now some people simply have odd, geeky interests, and they know that other people with those interests are online. But more often than not, people participate in geeky activities and develop geeky interests, because they can't easily participate in mainstream ones.
    • Some people maintain a wish to participate in the mainstream, but end up with poor self-esteem because they can't.
    • Others repress that wish (or just don't have it,) and shun the mainstream (e.g., sports are dumb.)

Now, all of the above is not simply my opinion. This is subcultural studies in Sociology. You'd have to argue with men and women who are massively influential and respected in the field to debunk it: People who have spent more time studying subcultures than we've been alive (even more than most of the older users here.)

  • Poor out-of-ponydom interaction skills Any fandom has attention whores. Bronies are no different. I haven't noticed any uncommonly frequent attention whoring while roaming on EqD, Ponychan, KYM, or Ponibooru (all of which I have posted on myself.) I just think some Bronies are louder than others. I don't think you have a point here.
  • I feel somewhat awkward about watching ponies in my free time. I'd have to be completely oblivious to popular opinion to not feel somewhat awkward. And that's ok. It's not going to prevent me from watching the show.
    • But even in that, there's a split. Some people can ascribe (or want to ascribe to) mainstream norms in order to receive the benefits that come with proper compliance, so they feel awkward about breaking these silly, but deeply-ingrained and valued, gender norms. They would love for ponies to become normal.
    • But there are others that simply don't care. More often than not, these are people that couldn't ascribe to the mainstream if they tried or if they wanted. Since they don't care about the mainstream (either due to rejection of those norms, the culture rejecting them, or simply not caring at all,) they don't feel the need to be in accordance with the mainstream. So they aren't trying to get people to watch the show because they want to be accepted. They don't care.

And to be honest, some people probably just talk ponies, because it's fun. They aren't trying to get people to watch the show. And some people may just want other people to watch the show, because it's a ton of fun. I want people to keep up with sports, because I get a lot from watching them and playing them. I'd like for my friends to watch FiM, so we can joke and talk about it. But you guys make it easier to not have many friends that like it. I'm really grateful for that, by the way.
 
 
As for having serious problems, we all have them. Really. But sometimes it's best to just not bring them up unless you have to.
 
Also, don't let people that hide their problems better than most let you think you're weird for having problems. ; )
 
We're weird for other reasons (including being men that watch a show targeted at little girls and don't nobody pretend that this show is "manly" because it's not. It doesn't have to be.

Last edited Oct 02, 2011 at 04:25PM EDT

Verbose wrote:

@Everyone responding: In all honesty, those who've tried have offered up some pretty weak arguments. Also, I don't see what good it does to insult a person on the web. It may play more into Jolly Jew's insecurity argument, actually.

@Jolly Jew

  • Insecure and unconfident fanbase. You may have a point, but not for the reasons you're thinking. The geeky Internet culture as we know is a shadow culture: most of the people cannot ascribe to mainstream norms. On the whole, we are not square-jawed, athletic, confident, baritone-voiced, properly proportioned, physically attractive people. As such, we're not going to pursue stereotypically mainstream norms and activities like sports, clubbing, or dating to the same extent as those who have attributes that make those activities more feasible on the whole.

Example: How many sports do you most of you guys play now? (and are you really any good at them?) How many girls have you seriously dated/slept with? On a given night you have free, do you go out to bars to hang out with your friends or do you play video games? Did you win most attractive/most popular/most likely to succeed/Mr. Mrs. X High School/most athletic/any other superlative? At different times in life, these are indicators of properly achieving or having desirable mainstream qualities (not implying that "normal" is the ideal, but it is desirable for most.)

  • The entire geek portion of the web is more insecure and unconfident than those who can ascribe to the initially desired mainstream. Being Yay~ or neigh towards ponies is irrelevant. If were we more confident, we would be out with people instead of spending most of our free-time on the web or playing a video game. Doesn't matter if it's Team Fortress 2 or MLP.
  • Now some people simply have odd, geeky interests, and they know that other people with those interests are online. But more often than not, people participate in geeky activities and develop geeky interests, because they can't easily participate in mainstream ones.
    • Some people maintain a wish to participate in the mainstream, but end up with poor self-esteem because they can't.
    • Others repress that wish (or just don't have it,) and shun the mainstream (e.g., sports are dumb.)

Now, all of the above is not simply my opinion. This is subcultural studies in Sociology. You'd have to argue with men and women who are massively influential and respected in the field to debunk it: People who have spent more time studying subcultures than we've been alive (even more than most of the older users here.)

  • Poor out-of-ponydom interaction skills Any fandom has attention whores. Bronies are no different. I haven't noticed any uncommonly frequent attention whoring while roaming on EqD, Ponychan, KYM, or Ponibooru (all of which I have posted on myself.) I just think some Bronies are louder than others. I don't think you have a point here.
  • I feel somewhat awkward about watching ponies in my free time. I'd have to be completely oblivious to popular opinion to not feel somewhat awkward. And that's ok. It's not going to prevent me from watching the show.
    • But even in that, there's a split. Some people can ascribe (or want to ascribe to) mainstream norms in order to receive the benefits that come with proper compliance, so they feel awkward about breaking these silly, but deeply-ingrained and valued, gender norms. They would love for ponies to become normal.
    • But there are others that simply don't care. More often than not, these are people that couldn't ascribe to the mainstream if they tried or if they wanted. Since they don't care about the mainstream (either due to rejection of those norms, the culture rejecting them, or simply not caring at all,) they don't feel the need to be in accordance with the mainstream. So they aren't trying to get people to watch the show because they want to be accepted. They don't care.

And to be honest, some people probably just talk ponies, because it's fun. They aren't trying to get people to watch the show. And some people may just want other people to watch the show, because it's a ton of fun. I want people to keep up with sports, because I get a lot from watching them and playing them. I'd like for my friends to watch FiM, so we can joke and talk about it. But you guys make it easier to not have many friends that like it. I'm really grateful for that, by the way.
 
 
As for having serious problems, we all have them. Really. But sometimes it's best to just not bring them up unless you have to.
 
Also, don't let people that hide their problems better than most let you think you're weird for having problems. ; )
 
We're weird for other reasons (including being men that watch a show targeted at little girls and don't nobody pretend that this show is "manly" because it's not. It doesn't have to be.

I can pretty much agree by saying

Verbose wrote:

@Everyone responding: In all honesty, those who've tried have offered up some pretty weak arguments. Also, I don't see what good it does to insult a person on the web. It may play more into Jolly Jew's insecurity argument, actually.

@Jolly Jew

  • Insecure and unconfident fanbase. You may have a point, but not for the reasons you're thinking. The geeky Internet culture as we know is a shadow culture: most of the people cannot ascribe to mainstream norms. On the whole, we are not square-jawed, athletic, confident, baritone-voiced, properly proportioned, physically attractive people. As such, we're not going to pursue stereotypically mainstream norms and activities like sports, clubbing, or dating to the same extent as those who have attributes that make those activities more feasible on the whole.

Example: How many sports do you most of you guys play now? (and are you really any good at them?) How many girls have you seriously dated/slept with? On a given night you have free, do you go out to bars to hang out with your friends or do you play video games? Did you win most attractive/most popular/most likely to succeed/Mr. Mrs. X High School/most athletic/any other superlative? At different times in life, these are indicators of properly achieving or having desirable mainstream qualities (not implying that "normal" is the ideal, but it is desirable for most.)

  • The entire geek portion of the web is more insecure and unconfident than those who can ascribe to the initially desired mainstream. Being Yay~ or neigh towards ponies is irrelevant. If were we more confident, we would be out with people instead of spending most of our free-time on the web or playing a video game. Doesn't matter if it's Team Fortress 2 or MLP.
  • Now some people simply have odd, geeky interests, and they know that other people with those interests are online. But more often than not, people participate in geeky activities and develop geeky interests, because they can't easily participate in mainstream ones.
    • Some people maintain a wish to participate in the mainstream, but end up with poor self-esteem because they can't.
    • Others repress that wish (or just don't have it,) and shun the mainstream (e.g., sports are dumb.)

Now, all of the above is not simply my opinion. This is subcultural studies in Sociology. You'd have to argue with men and women who are massively influential and respected in the field to debunk it: People who have spent more time studying subcultures than we've been alive (even more than most of the older users here.)

  • Poor out-of-ponydom interaction skills Any fandom has attention whores. Bronies are no different. I haven't noticed any uncommonly frequent attention whoring while roaming on EqD, Ponychan, KYM, or Ponibooru (all of which I have posted on myself.) I just think some Bronies are louder than others. I don't think you have a point here.
  • I feel somewhat awkward about watching ponies in my free time. I'd have to be completely oblivious to popular opinion to not feel somewhat awkward. And that's ok. It's not going to prevent me from watching the show.
    • But even in that, there's a split. Some people can ascribe (or want to ascribe to) mainstream norms in order to receive the benefits that come with proper compliance, so they feel awkward about breaking these silly, but deeply-ingrained and valued, gender norms. They would love for ponies to become normal.
    • But there are others that simply don't care. More often than not, these are people that couldn't ascribe to the mainstream if they tried or if they wanted. Since they don't care about the mainstream (either due to rejection of those norms, the culture rejecting them, or simply not caring at all,) they don't feel the need to be in accordance with the mainstream. So they aren't trying to get people to watch the show because they want to be accepted. They don't care.

And to be honest, some people probably just talk ponies, because it's fun. They aren't trying to get people to watch the show. And some people may just want other people to watch the show, because it's a ton of fun. I want people to keep up with sports, because I get a lot from watching them and playing them. I'd like for my friends to watch FiM, so we can joke and talk about it. But you guys make it easier to not have many friends that like it. I'm really grateful for that, by the way.
 
 
As for having serious problems, we all have them. Really. But sometimes it's best to just not bring them up unless you have to.
 
Also, don't let people that hide their problems better than most let you think you're weird for having problems. ; )
 
We're weird for other reasons (including being men that watch a show targeted at little girls and don't nobody pretend that this show is "manly" because it's not. It doesn't have to be.

Dude…you just gave me a life story… o_o
Ima try my best to read this whole thing..

Verbose wrote:

@Everyone responding: In all honesty, those who've tried have offered up some pretty weak arguments. Also, I don't see what good it does to insult a person on the web. It may play more into Jolly Jew's insecurity argument, actually.

@Jolly Jew

  • Insecure and unconfident fanbase. You may have a point, but not for the reasons you're thinking. The geeky Internet culture as we know is a shadow culture: most of the people cannot ascribe to mainstream norms. On the whole, we are not square-jawed, athletic, confident, baritone-voiced, properly proportioned, physically attractive people. As such, we're not going to pursue stereotypically mainstream norms and activities like sports, clubbing, or dating to the same extent as those who have attributes that make those activities more feasible on the whole.

Example: How many sports do you most of you guys play now? (and are you really any good at them?) How many girls have you seriously dated/slept with? On a given night you have free, do you go out to bars to hang out with your friends or do you play video games? Did you win most attractive/most popular/most likely to succeed/Mr. Mrs. X High School/most athletic/any other superlative? At different times in life, these are indicators of properly achieving or having desirable mainstream qualities (not implying that "normal" is the ideal, but it is desirable for most.)

  • The entire geek portion of the web is more insecure and unconfident than those who can ascribe to the initially desired mainstream. Being Yay~ or neigh towards ponies is irrelevant. If were we more confident, we would be out with people instead of spending most of our free-time on the web or playing a video game. Doesn't matter if it's Team Fortress 2 or MLP.
  • Now some people simply have odd, geeky interests, and they know that other people with those interests are online. But more often than not, people participate in geeky activities and develop geeky interests, because they can't easily participate in mainstream ones.
    • Some people maintain a wish to participate in the mainstream, but end up with poor self-esteem because they can't.
    • Others repress that wish (or just don't have it,) and shun the mainstream (e.g., sports are dumb.)

Now, all of the above is not simply my opinion. This is subcultural studies in Sociology. You'd have to argue with men and women who are massively influential and respected in the field to debunk it: People who have spent more time studying subcultures than we've been alive (even more than most of the older users here.)

  • Poor out-of-ponydom interaction skills Any fandom has attention whores. Bronies are no different. I haven't noticed any uncommonly frequent attention whoring while roaming on EqD, Ponychan, KYM, or Ponibooru (all of which I have posted on myself.) I just think some Bronies are louder than others. I don't think you have a point here.
  • I feel somewhat awkward about watching ponies in my free time. I'd have to be completely oblivious to popular opinion to not feel somewhat awkward. And that's ok. It's not going to prevent me from watching the show.
    • But even in that, there's a split. Some people can ascribe (or want to ascribe to) mainstream norms in order to receive the benefits that come with proper compliance, so they feel awkward about breaking these silly, but deeply-ingrained and valued, gender norms. They would love for ponies to become normal.
    • But there are others that simply don't care. More often than not, these are people that couldn't ascribe to the mainstream if they tried or if they wanted. Since they don't care about the mainstream (either due to rejection of those norms, the culture rejecting them, or simply not caring at all,) they don't feel the need to be in accordance with the mainstream. So they aren't trying to get people to watch the show because they want to be accepted. They don't care.

And to be honest, some people probably just talk ponies, because it's fun. They aren't trying to get people to watch the show. And some people may just want other people to watch the show, because it's a ton of fun. I want people to keep up with sports, because I get a lot from watching them and playing them. I'd like for my friends to watch FiM, so we can joke and talk about it. But you guys make it easier to not have many friends that like it. I'm really grateful for that, by the way.
 
 
As for having serious problems, we all have them. Really. But sometimes it's best to just not bring them up unless you have to.
 
Also, don't let people that hide their problems better than most let you think you're weird for having problems. ; )
 
We're weird for other reasons (including being men that watch a show targeted at little girls and don't nobody pretend that this show is "manly" because it's not. It doesn't have to be.

Well, now I feel bad, a bit.

Erin ◕ω◕ wrote:

Damn it 4chan! (Whitetext horror follows:)
Why would anyone draw a human raping Silver Spoon and Diamond Tiara? WHY?!?

It's 4chan.
You sound surprised.

Ideological the Vinyl Scratch wrote:

You know what I want to see? An Applejack version of You're Gonna Go Far, Kid.

You know what I want to see? A hang-gliding wrestling ballerina.
So I turned to MAD

Ideological the Vinyl Scratch wrote:

MAD?! That monstrosity?! Are you Trying to drive me oatmeal?!

I concur wholeheartedly.
Hehe, I love using big words.

Ideological the Vinyl Scratch wrote:

I ain't clickin' anything related to that slipshod parody cartoon.

it's a Celestia/Luna/Discord fic
someone said something about it a page back,

Last edited Oct 02, 2011 at 04:51PM EDT

@Verbose's long post

Amen to that.

I think it's safe to say that we, as bronies, are a rag-tag collection of internet-goers spanning a variety of ages, social groups, and various other cohorts. Due to this fact, there's bound to be a few (probably a majority of us, actually) people who are insecure about their love for this show.

Personally, I like to think that I've gotten over my insecurities over the whole ordeal for the most part. When I first became a brony, I was afraid to admit it, even to myself. So I hid it. Weeks went by, and I became torn apart. I was secretly reading fanfictions (something I'd never done with any other franchise before), looking up fanart, and watching episodes in private. I was extremely insecure, confused, and scared.

Eventually (I don't know why or how) I got over it. I've come to accept the fact that I am a teenager, a guy, a thespian, a football and baseball fan, a singer, a mock trial team member, and a brony. And I firmly believe that this self-admission has allowed me to gain at least some self-respect, and I've been much happier ever since. I broke up with my borderline-abusive girlfriend, I've focused on my own problems and insecurities, and I'm having the time of my life. And I owe that to ponies. [/lifestory]

So then, how about some cute?

Skeletor-sm

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