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I've talked to someone who has seen it and watched several reviews of it. So far it sounds like the worst movie in the franchise, and I am wondering how no-one here has brought it up again due to its plot making some rather… interesting claims about autism that feel like memes could be canon for the Predator franchise.
I don't know whether to laugh or feel sad about the movie and what it means for the Predator franchise. Like at least Aliens officially has more dignity left now.
Last edited Oct 15, 2018 at 06:21AM EDT
The movie has literally "weaponized autism".
They use children with autism to make their race better,I'm not joking.
The movie feels a lot like Aliens Resurrection,it's campy and somewhat comedic.
It's not a good entry but entertaining for how dumb it is.
Aliens franchise suffered of a similiar fate,explaining more than it needed to.
They just lose their charm like that.
Duke Bruh wrote:
The movie has literally "weaponized autism".
They use children with autism to make their race better,I'm not joking.
The movie feels a lot like Aliens Resurrection,it's campy and somewhat comedic.
It's not a good entry but entertaining for how dumb it is.
Aliens franchise suffered of a similiar fate,explaining more than it needed to.
They just lose their charm like that.
Despite having Asperger's myself, I burst out laughing when I heard that one of the characters in the movie said that autism was the next step in human evolution and it was shown off like that stereotypical BS of intelligent prodigy of a 7 year old understanding predator technology and language.
After I heard that the predator wanted the kid so he can take his autism (the reason according to this movie all the predators take skulls and spines is for the spinal fluid so they can genetically engineer themselves to be better) and make him and probably his whole species autistic (and the ordinary looking one, as in the classic one already has human DNA in it). And called said seven year old child humanity's mightiest warrior… and latter on he is put in-charge of researching predator technology.
After a good laugh with that… I stopped when I was told more and how badly they fucked up the canon. On top of the most retardedly written story with terrible dialogue I have ever heard, it's like a goddamn fanfiction only it is canon and the predators have power armour.
And this movie bombed harder than the 2017, The Mummy.
So now that is three (technically four if you include Prometheus) big Fox franchises whose canon and lore has been royally fucked into the dirt until all the bones of the pelvises has been reduced to mush: Terminator, Alien and now Predator. All three's latest movies bombed at the box office.
Last edited Oct 15, 2018 at 04:17PM EDT
What killed these movie is the fact they overcomplicated everything.
These movies were a success because they had a simple but effective premise.
Terminator Genisys was an absolute clusterfuck,for a series that already has issues with the timeline because of time travels and that says a lot.
Cyborg sent back in time because they want to prevent humanity's leader to born or live to become it.Makes sense.
Prometheus and Aliens:Covenant: tried way too hard to make deep the concept of a xenomorph,which is nothing but a space creature killing things and procreate because that's their nature.
The Predator:trying to give any other reason to Predators to hunt things is dumb. They're doing it because it's a sport,they like it just like humans,not for survival or something like that.
It's so easy that is embarassing.Predators wasn't a masterpiece or great but at least it got the job done and did the Yautja more justice than this travesty.
The only time where the number of chromosomes managed to increase someone's abilites was in Hitman.
The protagonist is called Agent 47 because he has 47 modified chromosomes combined with the DNA of the world's most dangerous criminals. Even in one of the games they mention that is a miracle that he turned out so well because the other clones were a failure.
The difference is that is a human but here is a race who is superior to us in almost every way. It makes no sense at all.
That over complicating simple yet effective plots is true although there are other factors which seem to be tied with studio interference and and a genuine lack of skill or understanding of the series work at their core.
Genisys as you said fucks a already simple enough to get premise that works for a time travel, which are one of the hardest if not the hardest plot device to use and work a story around, so hard it is hard to tell what it has done. Like Terminator 3 did it badly, but Genisys effectively retconned all the previous movies out of existence or move to another timeline. I can't even tell anymore what it did.
To top it off, the executives were so afraid that people were thinking that it was a remake that they spoiled the twist in the trailer which pissed the director off to no end that you actually feel sorry for him.
Prometheus from what I remember wasn't supposed to be a Alien movie but that has been flipped flopped around so much that it hard to tell, and then in a example of executive meddling they brought in another writer, Damon Lindelof, to edit the original script which didn't have all the idiot balls that the final product had and was a clear prequel to Alien. So what probably could've been a neat and simple prequel to the Alien movie with enough room to explore the engineers in a sequel got fucked up by too many cooks at the pot.
And of course, Aliens: Covenant is an example of attempt to please everyone due to many people wanting the old alien back to be scary yet just as many wanting answers to the engineer questions from the last haphazard movie. It had to choose which fans to please and it tried both, and failed horribly that both types of fans were pissed off. And the sad thing is that if Prometheus was like the original script it originally had it probably could've had its cake and eaten it but Ridley and the Studio thought it was a good idea to hire Lindelof to "review" and "help edit" the script.
And of course we get to Predator. Like the Predators movie I do agree with ya did more justice for the series than The Predator since while it did complicate stuff, it complicated stuff revolving around how the yautja viewed hunting and how there were different groups who disagreed on how one would hunt. As in, making stuff more complex in the right way that fits with what has been established.
However, I do feel that the genetic engineering in The Predator is in the wrong story and used the wrong way, since it would be perfect for expending the classic yautja and rogues ones in Predators and perhaps even go further in showing another faction of yautja only that they alter themselves so much that they aren't considered yautja by the others and thus hunted.
But of course, the yautja motives in this movie make no sense like the one who touches down to Earth to give the humans a gift only to go on a killing spree almost right away when he gets down instead of trying to talk to the humans somehow and giving them the damn thing because they have guns. Of course though, it has been sort of a trend back to Alien Vs Predator where they had brain farts that took a break in Predators before going full retard for The Predator.
And honestly from what I heard of reshoots and other things about The Predator, it feels like both the creators and the studio have a large role for this disaster of a predator movie like the other examples have been here. Hell, I heard it tried having all the forced humour as if it is trying to copy Deadpool but isn't exactly funny for the right reasons.
It is still hard to believe that we've gone from this fictional monster kicking Arnie's ass
To this with a bigger and supposedly more badass predator who is a dumbass who wants to be autistic because for some fucking reason the movie is trying to justify how the kid is that fucking intelligent to figure out alien tech and how to motive the heroes to continue fighting the predator and thinks it is scoring points with most people with autism who either laugh at it or are insulted by its stupidity.
Last edited Oct 15, 2018 at 07:23PM EDT
the only thing that ruined the movie is that, the predators are evil, on predator 2? or 1 had at the end or threw some that this lady becomes a friend with a predator and doesnt get killed by the other predators and she helped killed the aliens and had an badass alien weapon arm. and she got a trident from the predator at the end and won.
the 3 movie could or had more and how her and the predator helped each other and even somthing like sequal like that in this movie, but they had to make them bad…
<:( its not how I remember the predators
soniiiety wrote:
the only thing that ruined the movie is that, the predators are evil, on predator 2? or 1 had at the end or threw some that this lady becomes a friend with a predator and doesnt get killed by the other predators and she helped killed the aliens and had an badass alien weapon arm. and she got a trident from the predator at the end and won.
the 3 movie could or had more and how her and the predator helped each other and even somthing like sequal like that in this movie, but they had to make them bad…
<:( its not how I remember the predators
That would be Alien Vs Predator 1, which even though that crossover film had some lore and canon inconsistencies itself, they were weren't this bad.
And the reason they didn't go for a sequel to Alien Vs Predator is because they decided to go for Requiem instead which I will say no more about since that movie was bad on every level.
I am not sure if you're aware of how the Predators/yautji were before the Alien Vs Predator franchise given that it sounds like you were introduced to just AVP but I'll assume that you do know enough.
And you would be correct about them being bad or evil in this movie since while the predators/yautji do hunt and kill other species for sports, they typically do it with several codes to make it honourable which revolve around killing no unarmed targets, children or pregnant ones.
The movie just basically up and throws out most of their codes and make decisions that are just dumb. Like the "good" predator that just murders people left, right and center. And the other tries taking and planning to kill a kid which as my father who I told the plot to said that it doesn't fit with what the predator is and he is a causal fan of the series.
Even in Predator 2, before the AVP movies, the predators didn't kill the main character on the spot because as far as they were concerned he earnt the right to live and be respected by them which doesn't fit with The Predator's memo of the predators now being evil alien invaders waiting for a chance to invade.
Ironically enough I think in the original script or shooting there was the idea of the predators and humans working together
Which probably made more sense given how they'd maybe at least have the knowledge of their own kind's technology and tactics. Rather than going Iron Man suit but predator.
Also I would recommend grammarly for you if you aren't using a phone right now to type and go over your post a few times. Some of your grammar had me confused briefly at the start as to what you meant by "predators are evil, on Predator 2? or 1 had at the end or threw some".