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@poochyena

you should probably just leave the thread mate. you're arguing the same point that no one agrees with here, it's just gonna make you frustrated tbh. like i'm not saying this in a mean, part-of-the-argument way, i'm just giving some advice to save you a headache. you're pretty firm on your viewpoint and so is the rest of the thread so it'll just be pointless.

Are you just not reading anyone's comments? We've said multiple times that mentally ill people are usually incapable of asking for help, but desperately need it and it's not their fault for being mentally ill.

August Ames has been added to the "List of suicides that have been attributed to bullying" Wiki

Do you seriously not understand what a mental ilness is?

I'm starting to think you're genuinely intellectually disabled.

@poochyena
It's legitimately sad that there are still people like you who don't completely understand what mental illness is while having no empathy on August and other victims from the Wiki I showed.
I can see why KYM locked Amanda Todd's video and image gallery for a reason.
Like documents1 said, please leave this thread.

I don't think you understand what it's like at all…

I would just hope at this point that this mess raises awareness of the fact that many sex industry workers do in fact give a shit about sexual health and safety.

It's a fact that anal is pretty damn dangerous, one of the more risky sex acts, and obviously a lot of porn performers have done it unprotected.

https://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/3050.aspx?CategoryID=118

Penetrative anal sex has a higher risk of spreading STIs than many other types of sexual activity. This is because the lining of the anus is thin and can easily be damaged, which makes it more vulnerable to infection.

Some infections caused by bacteria or viruses can be passed on through oral–anal sex, such as hepatitis A or E. coli.

Totally understandable that a performer would want to avoid a partner who had been in a lot of these situations.

Here's another horrifying look at porn star life expectancy: http://thestashed.com/2016/04/14/a-work-in-progress-the-life-expectancy-of-a-porn-star/

The average life expectancy of a porn star is around 37, give or take. Just 37. That's only around half the average life. That second link there was written by an ex-porn star and it's pretty eye-opening to see how she feels.

People weren't okay with August trying to prolong her life, so she just ended it sooner instead. Depressing.

You're either a troll or you actually have issues yourself.
I suggest you get help.

It's Poochyena. He's one of the most stubborn commenters here from my experience over in the other threads. I wouldn't be surprised tbh if he comes back with some articles reinforcing his point that mentally ill people have it coming and then calls everyone who decries his source as being just caring too much about dumb people.

That's an extrapolation of the point he's getting at by the way, not a direct word for word quote. More looking at the subtext of what he's getting at, ir suicide victims are stupid because they made bad choices, ignoring everyone who says otherwise.

More onto the point there were industry members who partook in this. Random people online is one thing, but these were fellow professionals exploiting this moment to tear down someone else's career and score political correctness points.

I think the industry needs to be seriously looked at when co-workers feel comfortable bullying one another and leaving comments encouraging suicide. Perhaps a call to boycott these actors and a refusal to partake in porn that stars them, ie both purchasing and watching for free.

More disturbing is that this arose because she didn't want to sleep with someone. She choose not to engage in sexual intercourse, not to give consent, and was visciously attacked for it. Basically they wanted her to be "raped" and were mad when she didn't do it.

Jeeze, i never knew that the porn industry was so fucked up.

Are their any kind of regulations or oversight to prevent these kinds of things? Cause if not they really need to implement some

It’s a fact that anal is pretty damn dangerous, one of the more risky sex acts

It's also just plain gross, both conceptually and practically. Seriously, if you find anal sexy please get help.

Are their any kind of regulations or oversight to prevent these kinds of things? Cause if not they really need to implement some

Some people try to push for regulation but it's inevitably met with "muh wank material, muh freedumz".

If you think that anal is dangerous then what about auto-erotic asphyxiation, blood play, choking and such? The auto-erotic asphyxiation community actually has many tutorials health wise on how to do it safely and what to do if the person isn't responding. It is dangerous, but at least they have tutorials on what if something bad happens. The reason why they do that is back in the day there was a couple incidents in which the belts and such wouldn't loosened so their partner had to cut the belt and call a ambulance; it's why they never do it alone cause there were a couple deaths, but thankfully the community is safe guarding against any more incidents.

I enjoy anal and getting choked. Do I need help?
And yes, there are more dangerous things out there.
Do you know there's people that seek out HIV positive people to have sex WITHOUT any protection? Although I think this falls under a paraphilia.

No they didn't and they claimed they wish they had enough time to "educate" her more on the topic at hand. So basically they didn't show any form of remorse and now are being blasted for their hand in bullying her into suicide.

I never said I though anal was truly dangerous, I just said it was gross and pointless. As for auto-erotic asphyxiation and bloodplay. Yeah, I consider you mentally defective if you get off on that, and even though the communities have a sort of protocol for them, they're still very risky no matter how many precautions you take.

@YNG
If the way you determine whether or not a sexual act is gross is whether or not it is pointless wouldn't gay sex be gross then cause it's sex not for the sake of procreation?

"Educating" a women into sleeping with someone she doesn't want to sleep with doesn't seem like a morally defensible thing.

"Her Body, Her Choice, except when I don't agree with it." is not how the adage goes.

I'm also not saying pointless=gross, there's nothing wrong with sex for non-procreative purposes, I do think there's something wrong with unsanitary sex acts that accomplish exactly what more typical sex acts do. You are aware of the health risks and preparation required for anal sex, right?

As for gay sex, I understand why gays do anal, but as a straight man I find gay sex, in and of itself, to be gross as any truly straight guy does.

"you guys can worry about parapalegics who have no interest in moving without a wheelchair, and I’ll worry about people who are actually interested in walking. Sound good?"

I'm sorry…
Are you seriously saying that, but unironically in a forum thread?
What does this "leftists" have to do with August Ames and the LGBT? What kind of "leftists" are you talking about? It sounds very vague no matter how I read it. People in this thread have already explained that the cyberbullies does not reflect the whole LGBT, right?
If you want to be right about some "women's right to kill fetuses/ woman sleeping with a person" bring some citation please, the downvotes makes you dumb.

Thought the LGBTQ+ movement was all about people doing whatever they want with their bodies, because it's their own fucking bodies.

I find the reasoning behind her not wanting to have sex with actors in gay porn stupid, but the factor of people driving her to suicide is just plain fucking sickening.

Thats the thing about a Movement, you don't get to decide who is and isn't part of it. Each individual person gets to decide they're part of your movement, whether you want them to or not. And no matter how toxic they are, you can't stop them from saying that "Im all about this movement" and having it reflect poorly on yourself.

People seem to have forgotten that fact, even though just a few years ago we saw that exact thing play out on this site via Gamergate.

This thread has basically just turned into a karma mine at this point

I come back to see if this site got any better and I already want to reach through the screen and sock someone in the goddamn jaw, leave the site, and never come back.
I'm not gonna specifically call out the retards, cuz forum rules and we all know who they are, and personally, arguing with dumbfucks isn't gonna get anything done except let them prove how stupid they are.
But this is fucked. This is fucked beyond fucked. This is the type of shit this world decides is okay now. We're now okay with bullying someone into FUCKING SUICIDE because of just what they do and their personal opinions.
And these fucking sociopaths are like "BUT WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG".
Fucking sickening… if this is gonna be the norm, then I'm booking the first flight as far from Earth as possible. The fact that I share a species with psychos who will happily bully someone into suicide, feel no remorse, and then see a bunch of halfwits try to defend said psychos or downplay just how fucked up and awful this is makes me wonder if certain people really deserve the Internet. I know that the internet is a basic right and you have the freedom to say whatever horseshit you wanna spew out of your mouth, but god fuckin' damn.

i;m very angry twitter sucks suicide iz bad arrrrgh

Upvotes to the left.

Yes, actually, me also very angry, porn is cool, LGBT people are great, suicide is bad, bulli is wrong, fuck KYM, and fuck bad people.

Spare some upvotes please, help make my karma net positive again!

Yo mods, does the two comments above me counts as warning or suspension? They sound off-topic and are just shitposting in a serious thread
It's memčiki memosiki and twistedmetalero incase they delete it

Edit: Finally a August Ames entry. What took you so long?
Also any updates to the cyberbullies, including the one who tweet out the "cyanide pill"?

Oh that's right, because what I've said is so much worse than the person above, who openly called other users retards, dumbfucks, stupid, and just made a generally friendly and wholesome comment. I'm sure no warning or suspension is warranted there, oh you genius wannabe law enforcer?

Delete the embarrassing "yo mods" post you wrote and I will agree to pretend that I've never seen it.

Edit: well, you lost your opportunity, I'm so sorry.

SOMEONE JUST DIED! IT IS NOT THE THREAD OR TIME TO COMPLAIN ABOUT KARMA! CAN'T WE HAVE ONE THREAD IN THIS WEBSITE WITHOUT THINGS TURNING INTO A FUCKING SHITSTORM? ESPECIALLY THIS ONE?!

I have been here for five years and I really DON'T want to see this place turn into another 4chan, another Encyclopedia Dramatica, another reddit circlejerk (I don't care if it is the left or the right circlejerking) , because we are not. We are Know Your Meme.

Oh sorry

I'm sorry, that post was rude of me. Let me rephrase in a more amicable fashion:

Bad things are bad. I do not like bad things. Bullying is bad. Suicide is also bad. Here is a reaction image to underline my anger at the badness of this bad situation. Please give karma to this post.

Yo mods, does the comment above me counts as warning or suspension? It sounds off-topic and is just shitposting in a serious thread
It’s twistedmetalero incase they delete it

I'm banishing this thread to the shadow realm.