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For an example, if you're walking outside at night, it's very likely that the demographic you're most likely going to avoid is males aged 15-40 who aren't accompanied by people not belonging to that group. Does that mean you are cautious against men aged 15-40 or bigoted against them? How much does reading crime statistics affect if I'm bigoted?

Does this matter if it's the age, race, gender, nationality, income etc. that affect the likelihood of a person committing a crime against me?

>How much does reading crime statistics affect if I'm bigoted?
If it gets to the point where you discriminate against people based on those statistics
Like, "Son, you can't go to your friend's birthday party because he and his family are black, don't you know black people commit so much crime?"

How DO you use crime statistics for this exactly?

"thats a black male! Better stay away, he has a .0000000003% of robbing me!"

"oh, just a white man, I don't gotta worry since he only has a .0000000002% of robbing me"

Its not like the odds differ very much depending on a person's demographics.

What about this:

"A group of young men yelling at loud voice. Better stay away! There's about 25% of chance they're going to attack."

Idk, just like, treat folks as human beings than just numbers on a screen?

I don't see why you wouldn't feel nervous around any group of people at night you don't know

Evilthing, IIRC, I think I saw you once or twice mentioning that you are from Chile (correct me if I mistook you for someone else). As such, this coming from you seems very odd to me, being from Latin America as well. Both you and I know for a fact that this is a first world approach to a third world problem. We have lived and been raised on an ideology where common sense is the only thing keeping our necks figuratively attached to our heads on an environment where assuming the worst out of ANY stranger on a situation where the vulnerable one is us, such as your example of going out at night alone, is the safest accepted way to live, thus considered the "common sense" option, and things such as race or gender do not even cross our minds for these things.

So, to answer your question in this context: bigotry stops when the problem was formulated, because the factors correlated to bigotry never came to play. Not a single time in conversations with friends, family or relatives have people from our side of the world said "hm, maybe we shouldn't go out at night with all these 15 to 40 year old males roaming around", and you never see it on news or online articles either. This is, as I said earlier, the Westerner's way of problem thinking, one that I find goes perfectly opposed to problem solving. If you are indeed from Chile, then all I can say is that you have been browsing too many English news websites lately and that is altering your perception of reality. Negatively. I would be worried in your place.

why is nedthis getting downvoted?