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Here's the pricing guide for the new items
I really need keys or the new Pyro items badly, so if any of you got an Infernal Orchestrina, say so. The Burning Bongos and maybe some of the new hats would be nice as well.

1.5 to 2 keys? Crap… I only have two refined, and don't want to part with most of my stranges. :/

Usually I just wait to find items before buying them. They are so expensive the first few days they come out. But you can make a killing selling weapons required to craft the new ones (I made a 1 ref profit from the Deus Ex update).
A feel very, very stupid now trading my one and only ref for burned items because I thought the pile of ash was a guaranteed strange weapon (this was on the first day now, ok).
But my backpack is quite full with other items that I probably should craft.
If anyone wants anything, I do a 1:1 weapon trade for any duplicate weapon.

Well, if you need scorched keys so badly, I can buy them from the store and sell them to you in metals, but, it's not easy for me to put money in my Steam Wallet, since I don't have a credit card or a paypal account, so, it should be a very favorable offer for me to accept. I don't wanna blow all my money on keys before the summer sale (20 to 75% off in most games)… add me so we can have a more agile conversation. http://steamcommunity.com/id/ivanv_derp. We'll arrange something.
This goes for everyone. Don't hesitate on asking me for trading. Just as long as the deal is in my favor.

EDIT: I stupidly crafted all my duplicate weapons into metal, thinking I wasn't gonna be able to sell them, but, they are easy to obtain via scrapbanking, so it'll be different in a couple of hours.

@Ice

Tell me about it, all of the new weapons are really high in price simply because they are new. People were buying them in the refines

That's why I decided to buy shortstops rather than trade for a Baby Face Blaster because two shortstops are waaaaaaay cheaper and can be used to craft your own Baby for free

One that note…

@Ivanv

Too late I'm afraid, I got my two shortstops for an ash and a scrap. I already had a reclaimed on standby so I now have the new scout weapons

However I'm still missing some scout weapons like the Wrap assassin, the Frying pan and the Boston Basher. If you are willing to sell those for some ash we can still do business

Ash is becoming like currency now. It's common, yet valuable since it can be used to get multiple new weapons at once and it guarantees a crate.

I still have 7 ash left after selling half of my entire ash supply while more gets dropped on me. At one point I had almost 20 ashes! Business has been good

I'm also thinking of selling my one scorched crate but something both me and Connor noticed is that lots of people are selling crates and very few people are buying. Despite having an expiry date, the value of burnt crates is unclear. But that may be because scorched keys cost 3.66 ref.

The keys to unlock my scorched crate has more value than my entire backpack

@BSOD I do have a spare frying pan and one boston basher. And ash is something I'm looking for :)

I'll give you an ash per weapon, sound good?

oh you guises are trading?

please, i'm looking for a strange Medigun, anyone have one? thanks

SUDDENLY, I got 6 shortstops, spare Boston Bashers and Wrap Assasins.

@BSOD Deal!

@Nightfury I have a Strange Medi Gun.

@Jackal Each Lollichop is 2.5 Ref

I'm selling the new Liquidator's Lid. Make me an offer.

@Ivanv

Perfect, I'll buy a pan, an assassin and a boston. 3 ashes are in it for you

Add me on steam and send me a trade request

Also have you got a rune blade? That would be the last item left for my scout collection

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Pleasure doing business with you Ivanv

I just checked what's left for me to collect, there's the unarmed combat and the Rune blade but I wont worry about getting those right now since they are just expensive duplicates of weapons I already have.

If someone is giving them away though, I'm all ears.

Besides I'm starting to run low on ash now, I'll think I'll leave trading alone for a while until my ash restocks.

If I get one more ash (one I don't have like a barn door plank or cheese wheel) then I can make another burnt crate

@Ivani

great! :D
what you want for it?

Well, base price is 3 Ref, so, Anything above that that you consider fair.
I use http://tf2spreadsheet.blogspot.com/ as a reference when pricing things.
Hope to hear from you :)

My backpack is http://steamcommunity.com/id/ivanv_derp/inventory/. Feel free to check it out.

Are you taking offers on your Lumbricus Lid?

Anyone willing to sell a shortstop?
Heres my backpack And no i am not willing to trade any of my geuine's

I'm kinda new to trading, so I'm going to try my best. Here's my backpack. Feel free to look through it, tell me if you want to make any offers. I know I don't have a lot, but I'm willing to make offers for what I do have. Although the Quadwrangler and the Professors Pineapple are not for sale.

@Riyku

Ivanv has a bunch of shortstops for sale. Ask him.

@Jackal Each Lollichop is 2.5 Ref

WOW. No longer interested. As hilarious as it is, it's still just a stock fire axe reskin.

What about those standard weapons, though? The wrap assassin and Grordbort pyro weapons do interest me. I'll give a scrap for each weapon to anyone who'll trade one.

Nevermind about about a shortstop i crafted one

@Maki Oh, well, I actually wanted to keep that for myself, but, uhh, yeah I'm all ears.

@Zarathh Do you sell those 2 crates 46? Also, cool avatar.

@Jackal Yes, I sell all my duplicate weapons for a scrap each or 3 for 2 scraps (unless they are on demand, like the shortstop and direct hit right now). From Grordbort I only got Third Degree(s) available, but I'm always scarpbanking, so maybe I'll have soon (or maybe not).

All I have for crafting Pyromania Weapons is a spare Shortstop, Madmilk and Winger.
Well I don't really care about the Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol so i'll trade the madmilk and winger for another Shortstop.

How does a Scorched Key sound, they're worth about 2 keys.

gimme, 2 days and i'll buy it from you :3

@Notsocool I can trade you the Shortstop.

@Maki Sorry, but that sounds like too little. I bought it for 2 keys (only 2 days ago), and Scorched keys are valued at 1.5 keys in tf2spreadsheet, so, that price would kill me. Does 2 Scorched sound like too much?

@Nightfury Sure, I'll save it for you ;)

@Jackal I found (bought) a Phlogistinator, if you're still interested.

@Zarathh I'm interested in buying those crates 46.

I'll go about 1 scorched and this strange soda popper I have.

@Ivanv: Alright, I recently got another #46 crate, do you want to buy that one too? Also, what are you offering?

@Maki I'm sorry, but I'd prefer keeping the hat :/

@Zarathh does 1rec sound fine for the 3 crates?

Hey Ivann, I'll buy that phlog and third degree. Here's my profile. Add me so we can trade.

Thanks for the weapons, derp!

Also, double posting because this:

Hey guys, how many of you are running into this problem?

Ever since the Pyro update, I've been plagued by this.

One some days everything will be fine

On other days I lose all my hardware and forced to use stock weapons (default loadout bug) shortly before being kicked off the server because, and I quote "lost connection to valves secure VAC servers"

It happened again when I tried to play with Connor this evening on every server I went to including favorite servers that I always join and never have a problem with

I'm a premium user like everybody else. I don't hack. VAC doesn't have a problem with me. This just seems to be a bug associated with the Pyro update.

Am I the only one on the forum who gets this?

I haven't had any issues with getting kicked. The default loadout bug happened to me a few times on the first two days after the update, but have subsided since then.

:o Yes, it happened to me too, but I didn't bother to look for answers and just assumed it was an actual internet connection problem. I should try reinstalling it, but if I do so, it would take like 2 or 3 days to complete the download :/

@Blue Screen
No,Never,it seems im the only one who hasn't had this problem
But anywho
Anyone got a Sharp Dresser?Hurr crafting it is hard and takes a cocktonne of weapons.

I started playing the other day, and I don't understand how people instantly notice me when I'm a disguised spy. I also don't understand how some people have crazy aiming skills and reflexes.

everyone spy checks nowadays they just hit everyone on there team my tip don't be obvious
some people have been play for a long time one of my friends has been playing since the 2008

@Ipoststuff

I started playing the other day, and I don’t understand how people instantly notice me when I’m a disguised spy. .

First of all most people don't know if you are a spy, they just randomly shoot their teammates wherever they don't feel secure. It's called spychecking.

Secondly you might look like the enemy team but the disguise will fool nobody if you don't act like the enemy team

Things that give away spies:

• Scouts that move slow
• Medics that are not healing
• Snipers that are not aiming
• Engineers that aren't near buildings
• Soldiers and Demomen than won't rocket/grenade jump
• Pyro's that don't spycheck
• Anyone suspiciously hiding in a corner instead of advancing on the enemy (Many spies make this mistake…disguised yet acting exactly like a damn spy. They die fast.)
• Anyone that seems more interested in the teammate in front on them rather than the enemy in the distance
• Anyone following closely behind you
• Anyone not firing at the enemy when clearly in attacking range
• And anyone that's coming towards you from the direction of the enemy base rather than your spawn

That's a lot of telling signs, no wonder you get caught.

If you join the enemy team in a charge and pretend to be charging with them AND nobody saw you get there, THEN your disguise will work. Use the disguise only when you attack so you can get close enough to your target before people notice the tell-tale signs. For every other occasion, stay cloaked and don't be seen.

I also don’t understand how some people have crazy aiming skills and reflexes

Welcome to first person shooters son, crazy reflexes is what it's all about.

And that takes practice. Practice, practice, practice.

Don't forget that TF2 has its roots in Quake where you ran as fast as a speeding train and dodged rockets that moved even faster. Occasionally you will encounter TF2 players with backgrounds in Quake, Doom or Unreal and they've had decades to adjust their reaction rate so that it's faster than a Fly on cocaine

Hey Ivan, sorry about not giving you my profile earlier. Here it is. Also, your offer is accepted. I also got another crate last night too. So that makes a total of four. Do you want that one too?

>Playing TF2
>Finally gets 4th burnt item
>Craft's pile of ash
>Open's pile of ash
>Scorched crate
>MFW

My brother got one of the new pyro weapons i got a crate

^
>Implying you can get anything besides the scrotched crate

>Crafts enough shit for a spy token,melee token,scrap
>Go to piss
>Returns to see that his brother crafted the scrap into reclaimed
>Recrafts the reclaimed into scrap
>Crafts everything
>Crafting Finished
>Eternal Reward

>Closes game
>Deinstalls it
>Goes and takes a bath in a nearby fountain.

Yesterday I "opened" a pile of ash and got a Dillinger's Duffel, but no crate. I thought 1 pile of ash = 1 guaranteed crate + sometimes another item.

@Max

Occasionally you get something else, usually a random weapon or accessory. Last time I crafted a pile of ash, I got a Beggars Bazooka AND a crate

Also never craft for random items with those tokens, etc. Complete and utter waste of time and scrap. Its worthwhile if you don't have anything at all, but when you already have 3 Crit-a-cola's it gives you another Crit-a-cola (true story).

If you want something specific, you have to trade for it.

@Ivanv

I thought that too but I guess its more random than that.

Well i bought a key and opened it luckily i did not get an item i already got
I got this hat:

Hah, got 2 Helmet Without A Home. Cheap piece of crap. I sell the extra one. Actually, I may sell both.

@Zanathh Thank you for the trade. I karma'ed you up.

Hey, could someone help me out here? I'm looking for a bootlegger, a screen, and a persuader. I'll offer 0.55 for it all.

I'm selling 1 Buff Banner, 1 Bazaar Bargain, 1 Short Circuit, a Quick Fix, an Overdose, and a Third Degree. 0.11 for each, if you want to buy them.

Selling: Lumbricus Lid (Worms Reloaded promo helmet for Soldier with Holy Hand Grenades suicide taunt, clean); Heavy Duty Rag (clean); A Helmet Without a Home (clean); Crocleather Slouch (Sniper hat, clean, painted Radigan Conagher Brown); Clan Pride; Dueling Mini-Game; Strange Lollichop; et cetera. Check my inventory for more. Regular weapons at 1 scrap each unless I have only one of it.

Buying: Burnt items.
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EDIT: Now we can redeem our codes for Robot Chicken hat. Wheee!

I have a question, I have one scorched key left. Should I sell it on the last day of the update? I don't know if the price of the key will go up when the update draws to a close. In addition who is interested in buying "The Idea Tube" from me?

Still interested in trading?