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![File: orange transparent chains(..).png (3.01 MB, 680x976) O LEGO Space 1995 Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)02:29:35 No.67744810 E GREETINGS FELLOW 90'S KIDS, I've spent my afternoon brainstorming about turning the LEGO Space themes from 1978 until around 2000 into a unified, coherent homebrew setting, and this is what I've come up with. (I'm sure something like this has been attempted before, so if it has, feel free to discuss that as well) https://lego.fandom.com/wiki/Space The lego themes from that era generally shared a narrative, but there's only so deep the lore gets for a series of toy blocks. I've tried to flesh them out a little bit to get kind of a basic idea of what a fully fledged RPG setting would look like, but it's just the basic skeleton. I don't have a particular system in mind, but something like Genesys could do the job. I'll go into the lore in a sec, but here are my general observations about themes: In the spirit of being inspired by kid's toys, the setting would be generally upbeat and adventurous but with some cyberpunk undertones. Guns don't shoot bullets, they shoot flashy lasers. The "bad guys" aren't murderous psychopaths, they're spies and thieves. Violence and vulgarity still exists, but this isn't a "dark reboot"; the goal is to maintain the spirit of the source material. All the figures are wearing space suits and there's not a plant or animal to be seen. To me, this says deep space colonization in a galaxy where teraforming doesn't exist or isn't effective (or hasn't had time to work yet). This might not be ubiquitously true, but generally speaking, most colonies would be sealed habitats with maybe small-to-moderate sized cities on the more populated worlds. That said, I see it as mostly post-scarcity; the people in the colonies don't so much worry about where their next meal is coming from, but they do worry about being caught outside with a cracked helmet. (1/3) O Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)02:30:01 No.67744816 File: Futuron.jpg (116 KB, 613x690) 5828 LEGO >>67744810 (2/3) The earlier Classic Space sets, the Futuron sets, and Space Police I sets all wear very similar uniforms. Blacktron had a massive style change between Blacktron I and II. These things are noted in the lore framework. LEGO kept making Space sets well past 2000, but they stop being part of the same "canon". For the purposes of this, anything after Rock Raiders is considered a different setting (I'm even hesitant about including RR) So here's my very, very basic framework: Futuron is one of the great mega-corporations of Earth. Earth itself may not be dead or abandoned, but it is distant and mostly irrelevant; think StarCraft. Ages ago, Futuron set forth to colonize deep space. The early, classic Space sets represent the early days of the colonies, when you lived, breathed, and died a Futuron employee (with the Space Police I sets being the early Security division of Futuron.) These days, while Futuron is still the biggest influence in the colonies, they are not alone. Now that the colonies are beginning to thrive, more corporate interests have begun to move in, establishing rivalries or partnerships with each other and Futuron. In the interest of establishing a neutral, third party judiciary force, the colonies created the Space Police (Space Police II) though Futuron still maintains its own security force with whom they occasionally butt heads. Blacktron I started as an off-the-books black agency under Futuron, doing shady secret bad guy stuff. Blacktron was a nickname that stuck (originally a portmanteau of Black Futuron). There was an incident - a scandal of some sort - that exposed Blacktron, and Futuron cut them loose to save face and distance themselves from whatever the controversy was. But doing so seriously weakened the economic and political standing of Futuron. O Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)02:31:04 No.67744824 File: spyrius.jpg (445 KB, 1520x1227) >>67744810 >>67744816 (3/3) In the modern day, Blacktron (represented by Blacktron II) has embraced their exposure and Futuron's bad press, and has established themselves as a "legitimate" rival corporation, aggressively moving to acquire Futuron assets and colonies. They claim to have cleaned up their act, but they're shifty af. (Think Cerberus in the Mass Effect franchise) M:Tron is a corp that's moved in/built itself up as a major labor and engineering interest, mining vast resources with their proprietary Magnitron technology. They're rivals with Futuron, but mostly peaceful. Spyrius is a group of outlaws and pirates operating from the planet of the same name (Spyrius), they are the ostensible "main villains" but they have more in common with groups like COBRA (GI Joe) or HYDRA/AIM (Marvel) than a full on rival military. Their MO is mostly espionage and subterfuge with a healthy dose of piracy and theft. Ice Planet is... an ice planet. Probably a subdivision of Futuron performing science on an ice planet. For being the coolest dudes, they don't have much "lore" but their emblem does resemble an icy Futuron emblem. Unitron is a PMC that can protect your interests without asking as many questions as the Space Police... for a price. Roboforce is a PMC that can protect your colony or perform search and rescue, also for a price. Most recently, the Explorien corporation has arrived to investigate newly uncovered alien artifacts. This will eventually lead them into conflict with the Zotaxians (aliens from the UFO sets, who are vicious conquerors) or into contact with the Holoxians (aliens from the Insectoids sets, who are refugees from the Zotaxians.) If Rock Raiders fit, they'll be another, smaller-scale mining interest, perhaps a crew of freelancers. So now that I've exceeded my autism quota, what are your thoughts? Should I put more work into this? Do you have anything to suggest/add/change? O Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)02:49:52 No.67744945 >>67744810 >>67744816 >>67744824 Other Space themes around that era include the Earth-based Space Port, Life on Mars, and Mars Mission. I don't feel strongly about including them in the "canon" but if I did they'd happen back in the Sol system in the pre-Futuron era, perhaps illustrating humanity's first attempts at interplanetary colonization and the subsequent discover of (an as-yet undefined method of) FTL travel. Life on Mars is about encountering peaceful Martians and Mars Mission is about a conflict with evil CrystAliens, so my thought is the Astronauts would stumble into this conflict, maybe re-awakening the very last surviving Martians and helping them defend against the CrystAliens... But since they don't share much in common with the pre-2000 era sets, visually OR thematically, that might just be a lore easter egg. Similarly, things like the Aquanauts are sci-fi underwater s--- but they come with Earth sharks and octopi, so l'd be inclined to keep them on Earth. Maybe throw Exo-Force in there too. O Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)03:57:59 No.67745451 File: Bricks_n_Pieces_Summer 19(...).jpg (185 KB, 792x1117) >>67745270 Look at the art in the OP, and imagine the entire Lego SpaceVerse reimagined through that lens. Basically I'm treating it as a backdrop for a general scifi setting, which is to say that people are still flesh and blood and not made out of bricks. The "seriousness" I'd put somewhere around classic film serials and comics of the 1970s, or kids adventure cartoons from the 70s-90s. Futuron being a sort of morally ambiguous megacorp version of Star Trek's Federation. Which is to say, the setting takes itself seriously - but the content is closer to PG than R. That's really just my take on it, though. I'm claiming no ownership over this, and if you want to throw out your own ideas of "Grimdark Legoverse" or "Super Campy Extra Fun Block Space" I would absolutely encourage you to do that! >>67745217 Sure. Rule of thumb: If it's one of the Lego sets, it's in the universe (somewhere.) I haven't decided if I want this (pic related) lore from the old set catalogues to be canon or not, but generally it looks like Spyrius uses a lot of big robots and employs armies of smaller androids in their ranks. Perhaps they're part of a top-secret robotics project from the old Blacktron? Hmm, experimental rogue Al (and their human servants/employees/partners) could have been the incident that got Blacktron exposed in the first place.. but that runs the risk of making everything too inter-connected. Thoughts? O Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)04:08:30 No.67745527 >67745451 honestly the whole concept of Spyrius (A place that's more or less a planet of criminals and spies existing without getting orbitially bombarded by the space police on the daily) is kind of silly in the first place, so I say take the complexity as far as you want. I can definitely see an antagonistic relationship between Spyrius and Blacktron going on though. Assuming Futron still has a major stock in the Space Police business, Spyrius would probably be paying some hefty bribes to keep the police from raiding them. (If that didn't make much sense forgive me I'm tired as s--- right now) O Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)04:14:45 No.67745572 >>67744810 I seriously doubt I will be able to convince my group to do this, but it definitely piques my autism. I like that the setting is so vast, but the technology is at a 90's futurism level, rather than sci-fi magic. It appeals to me a lot more than 40wank or cybershit. It's funny that some obscure LEGO flavor text captures such an interesting space setting. My only concern is a lack of content, unless you were willing to break from the "lore" to make your own, which sort of takes away from the feeling that you're playing LEGOS with dice. For instance, what are the established planets/colonies in this setting? Aside from Spyrius and Ice Planet, are there any other named planets or stations? I really like that you can just play with LEGO figures and blocks instead of traditional miniatures and terrain. It makes it cheap and easy, as well as allowing for a much larger variety of scenarios as well as keeping the childish feel of playing with LEGOS. Feel free to dump more of the sets that are inspiring you. O Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)04:18:51 No.67745608 >>67745451 >>67745527 >>67745571 Could also be one of those situations where everyone "knows" Spyrius are a bunch of spies and villains but on the surface they deny everything and are really good at making it impossible to actually prove, and no one will f--- with them openly because they have a giant army of robots and androids. O Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)04:35:21 No.67745736 >>67745608 That was mostly the direction I was taking with Blacktron as the shady rival corp (neutral evil pretending to be true neutral), with Spyrius being more along the lines of the unambiguous "villains". I think Spyrius would be more defended by their robot army. People know they're bad but can't really catch them, and the magazine excerpts suggest they have spies everywhere. situation of their home base being hidden or inaccessible, and heavily >>67745549 Exactly this >>67745572 Actual, hard setting details I could definitely use some help fleshing out. There are a few things we can borrow; example, Spyrius was marketed as coming from a planet by the same name. Ice Planet was said to have taken place on a planet called Krysto-2002. Some of the sets have names, like Zenon Star Base. But the specifics of mapping the colonies isn't something I've tackled yet, or how the geopolitics or economy functions (outside of basic "megacorps and colonies" and "mining s---") I'm thinking the colonies exist in a small star cluster, where travel between planets takes hours and travel between stars takes days, but travel outside the colonies would take weeks, months, or years (to keep the setting relatively contained.) I don't know what form FTL travel should take though. As for content l'm approaching it from kind of a Star Wars angle; the "stuff" we see (in this case, lego sets) is indicative of the bigger world but only scratches the surface. So rather than there only being one Deep Freeze Defender operating as Ice Planet's mothership, there would be dozens, hundreds, or thousands of ships of that class. There'd be plenty of room to introduce new designs, or fill in the gaps between them (ie there are a bunch of starbase sets, but none of them have bunkrooms... so one would have to assume there are living habitats connected to them) It's past my bedtime so l'm probably gonna take a step back for now, but I eagerly encourage anyone to throw around ideas of their own! O Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)13:45:59 No.67750971 File: explorienfossil.jpg (40 KB, 352x211) >>67746768 >>67746783 >>67746792 >>67746808 >>67746813 >>67746824 >>67746837 This is all incredible. Do you happen to have any of the writing saved from that thread? I'd love to revive/cannibalize anything else they were working on. >>67744824 >Most recently, the Explorien corporation has arrived to investigate newly uncovered alien artifacts. This will eventually lead them into conflict with the Zotaxians (aliens from the UFO sets, who are vicious conquerors) or into contact with the Holoxians (aliens from the Insectoids sets, who are refugees from the Zotaxians.) So their whole thing was "decoding" these Alien fossils. I only have the vaguest concept for what's so special about them. Maybe they fill the role of the generic precursor race? In any case they seem like an easy segue into the UFO sets as extragalactic invaders, the "big threat" lurking in the darkness. Old Lego lore has the UFO aliens and the Insectoids aliens coming from the same planet so currently I'm preserving that by having the latter be refugees on the run from the former. Our boys the Exploriens will probably be the ones who stumble upon whatever ANCIENT SECRET it is that draws the UFO guys into our little corner of the galaxy. >>67745939 I thought so too but it's not as many as I thought. Rock Raiders were after Energy Crystals, the Aquazone factions were after Hydrolator Crystals, and the Insectoids had their Voltstones. RoboForce had these weird 1x2 chips with a circuitry design that said "ROBO" on them (that they collected in their storage boxes) but I don't know what those were supposed to represent. Robobux? Anyway, there's a lot of gaps that could be filled, like WHY the different guys do what they do. Ice Planet stuff has a lot of rockets, and they're supposed to be testing satellites or something? Why do that on an ice planet? The big orange chainsaws are probably to cut through ice, but... if they're testing satellites, why are they cutting through ice? O Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)13:51:42 No.67751066 File: Ufo_alien_black.jpg (109 KB, 920x690) >another art dump while l'm typing You guys are great >>67750971 (cont'd) Maybe there's something fucky with the ice planet's magnetic field (naturally occurring, or hidden alien macguffins under the surface) but that's all l've got right now. If anyone wants to help flesh out some of the factions, go wild! And Re:Exploriens, their gear was always identified as like... telescopes and sensors and s---, even though they look like big ol' lasers. I might treat them as being kind of Star Trek inspired where their gear is INTENDED for exploration, but nothing's stopping them from shunting tachyons into the chrono- resonator firing beams tiparticles or the f--- they gotta do if attacked. They're the "weird faction. O Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)14:32:23 No.67751651 What if the orange transparent pieces are hard light? some sort of deployable chip that allows mass production/infinite use of necessary items? using the OP Image, the dude has a chainblade for ice clearing, skis, and a protective visor/HUD. Blacktron survived primarily on the recreation of Fultron quality level Lightchips using what they had managed to take with them after their speration from Fultron. This was blatantly done, but as Fultron developed farther and farther ahead in terms of quality and technical design, Fultron developed a near identical Lightchips system, giving off red light rather than orange. While there is no meaningful performance difference between the two, an individual's color hue is often all one needs to know about their personality. O Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)14:42:48 No.67751792 >>67751651 some other thoughts that occured after posting >Hardlight tech is what allowed Fultron to defeat the economic challenge of mass supplying budding colonies? >Crystals mined >>67750971 are uniquely vital as refractory elements in making Hardlight. The rights to mine are held in a fragile compact between Fultron and M:Tron, alongside the RockRaider subsidiary tasked with asteroid mining. >Freelance Casters (Hardlight designer) operate amongst all factions, leading to most non aligned players within the intercorp Cold War being a piecemeal of various Lightchip ensembles >Hard Light being opposed by some other type of equally useful and cost effective tech, either by alien forces or another corp. I like my idea a lot obviously, but I think it is at the very least a good handwave to keep the spirit of the camp and 80's aesthetic of the transparent orange, neon green, and other color schemes in the sets O Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)16:44:04 No.67753628 >>67751651 >>67751792 I'm of two minds about hardlight. On the one hand, it's a killer idea. Solid flavor and explains the translucent aesthetic. On the other hand, having it be easily toggleable kind of undermines a few things. I was hoping to preserve some hard sci-fi aesthetic, since everyone wears space suits and it seems like climate-controlled habitats are minimal. So it can't be a miracle technology that solves every problem. Also the sets themselves, the "hard light" pieces are on hinges and s--- (if they move) and I want to keep the setting closely inspired by the sets. But I have some workarounds... One, maybe those cockpits aren't MADE of hardlight, but are reinforced by it? So a scaffolding or a sheathe of regular sci-fi glass is supporting a reinforcing hardlight structure. Second, maybe Hardlight is persistent; you don't switch it on or off like a flashlight, you forge it in a factory. It's light weight and versatile and maybe still needs to be "plugged in" to a lightchip to stay coherent over time, but that would explain why, say, the ice planeteers have a rack on their snowmobiles to hang their hardlight skis rather than just switching them off. Maybe both? O Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)16:53:33 No.67753770 >>67753628 The orange transparent gear kind of looks like the omniblade from Mass Effect 3, which was a melee weapon made from hardened omnigel (a technobabble material used for just about anything). Basically, when you needed the blade, you'd essentilly instantly 3D-print one, and while it would break after use you could generate a new one as long as you have a supply of omnigel. O Anonymous 08/10/19(Sat)19:19:31 No.67756196 >>67753628 >One, maybe those cockpits aren't MADE of hardlight, but are reinforced by it? So a scaffolding or a sheathe of regular sci-fi glass is supporting a reinforcing hardlight structure. Second, maybe Hardlight is persistent; you don't switch it on or off like a flashlight, you forge it in a factory. It's light weight and versatile and maybe still needs to be "plugged in" to a lightchip to stay coherent over time, but that would explain why, say, the ice planeteers have a rack on their snowmobiles to hang their hardlight skis rather than just switching them off. Maybe both? Sounds like the miracle material Stuhr from The Leeshore by Robert Reed. >Stuhr is superstrong to the point of being usable for things like space elevator cables or the walls of fusion reactors, but only as long as it has a slight electrical current running through it. Turn that off, it disintegrates into dust. O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)04:40:06 No.67763673 >>67753628 >>67756196 I like this thing of a super strong material that needs to be constantly powered or else disintegrate. O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)11:01:21 No.67767321 File: Fundemental building bloc(...).jpg (78 KB, 744x389) >>67746598 Jump gates would work quite well - you can fly about in your "local" space under your own power, but the only fast, safe way to travel long distance is to go through the gate. Of course, there are risks - the Gates work by breaking down what goes through them into their smallest components, then reassembling them on the other side. Sometimes it can take a very long time before a jumper to come back, and sometimes they come back... different. O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)12:34:48 No.67768539 File: 6704_Space_Explorers.jpg (62 KB, 412x271) >>67753770 >>67756196 >>67763673 >>67766981 Yeah, I definitely like HL as a concept but I think it needs to have some degree of permanence. I think having it switch on/off and/or being easily malleable, Green Lantern style, diverts away too much from the classic idea. I want to keep a version of it, though, so l'll post more about it shortly >>67767321 I like this. I like the subtle shoutout to being blocks. I think l'd make some handwave caveat that they only "mis-build" inorganic material, because the body horror of being rebuilt without your legs is darker than I was going for, but the very real risk of having your ship rebuilt missing a key component is perfect. Also, the Zotaxians (UFO) are said to come to "this galaxy" through a wormhole... so I'm gonna kitbash some lore about this. In fact... maybe Humans can't transport living material at all? I'll present two options in my momentary loredump. I really appreciate the help and the enthusiasm, everyone! O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)14:26:11 No.67770312 File: 1-45.jpg (84 KB, 400x400) >>67768539 Re: Hardlight Hardlight is a lightweight, resilient, and versatile glass-like material formed from coherent energy. It is the handwavium "miracle" material that is at the center of the science that makes the colonization of deep space possible. The early Futuron expeditions only possessed rudimentary hardlight technology (peep the Classic Space sets) but resources from the star cluster and advancements in technology have turned it into a part of everyday life. The fabrication of hardlight used to be a proprietary technology which only Futuron knew how to do, but the secrets of its manufacturer leaked after Blacktron was excised from the company. This in turn broke some of Futuron's hold on the colonies, as where once they had a monopoly on the sole piece of technology running the system, now other corporations have the opportunity to move in and rock the boat. But just because anybody can build hardlight, not everybody has the resources to do so, and not everybody can do it well. It takes large factories, powered by energy crystals, to create the base material. Futuron is still the top dog in the sector, and that's not likely to change. Hardlight itself energized. Separate a hardlight structure from its energy source and it will slowly weaken over the course of hours or days, shatter, and eventually dissipate back into pure light as the containment field destabilizes. This is why we can see hardlight tools being used without a power source or interface, but rarely see entire structures made of the material. (Editor's note: I like the idea of them being "loose bricks" instead of something that can be switched on and off) (1/5) semi-persistent. In its raw form, it is a malleable, viscous substance with little rigidity. It requires the application of... science beams... (A light quench?) to harden it into a persistent structure. Once "forged" and "quenched", Hardlight objects keep their shape as long as they remain O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)14:27:14 No.67770324 File: 6929_Box.jpg (257 KB, 868x533) >>67770312 (2/5) Hardlight can be repaired by re-energizing it with an energy beam the way one might use a welding torch to repair metal, able to consistently return to its full strength. It can be recycled and reshaped to form different structures, and while this is often less expensive than forging brand new structures, it requires time and special equipment and thus isn't possible to do in the field. Scavengers will often scour wreckage for still-coherent hardlight pieces, rushing to gather them before they dissipate, so they can resell them to hardlight reclaimers. This is the corporations try to discourage, because they can't tax it. practice that Re: Space travel Warp drives work by doing some science s--- with hardlight. Propulsion still happens neighboring star system. Travel back to inhabited Earth space takes decades. "real" space, but due to science fuckery still allows ships to reach faster-than-light speeds in open space. However, space is vast, and even the fastest warp ships can take several days to reach the closest Futuron created the first Jumpgate (Buildgate?) out of Earthspace. It operates much like >>67767321 suggests; by deconstructing an object into "pieces," beaming them through [brickspace], and reconstructing the object at the destination. This process is not infallible, but it cuts the travel time to the nearest inhabited star sector from decades down to months. The sole jumpgate in the colonies is run, of course, by Futuron, but they do license its use out to other corporations (and heavily tax it). If a corporation were to build another jumpgate, it could cause a massive paradigm shift in the balance of power. (Editor's note: I want to keep Earth and other inhabited space a distant thought, to keep the setting grounded in the colonies. Leaving the colonies and escaping the corporations is outside most people's means.) O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)14:28:57 No.67770353 File: Mm001.jpg (45 KB, 240x320) >>67770324 (3/5) *I'm thinking that gates can't transport living material at all, and are thus far only able to transport tools, supplies, and communications. The initial colonists only arrived via warp-powered sleeper ships, and now that they're here, there's no way to leave (or come back) without making another decades-long trek through empty space. New colony ships arrive every so often, but until the problem of shipping organics through buildgates is solved, for most people it becomes a one-way trip. Maybe just cut the warp travel down to a few years and gate travel to days/weeks... Idk. Re: Al Service robots are somewhat common. (If you look at the sets, there are quite a few that come with non-minifig robots.) Heuristic, adaptable, learning Androids are not. Spyrius was the first to crack the problem of a "smart" droid, and for years they were the only ones. There are even some rumors that they are lead by one such droid. The Explorien Corporation has recently rolled out their own model of highly advanced smart droid for use in their expeditions, though, and nobody else is quite sure how they managed to do it. (Editor: Spyrius and Exploriens were the only human sets to have android minifigs) Re: Aliens Humanity made first contact with extraterrestrial life over a century ago on their Mars colony. While much of that information has been classified (read: I cba), this is what is known: Martians were peaceful, technologically advanced, but dying. After establishing communication and sharing knowledge (such as the early secrets of Hardlight tech), the CRYSTALIENS ATTACKED. Crystaliens were a race of hard, translucent crystal beings that were just really, really rude. They waged war with Earth and the remnants of Martian civilization to settle an old grudge (some believe they were an artificial race created by the Martians themselves, made of actual living hardlight). In the end, Earth won, but both the Martians and Crystaliens were wiped out (.. or were they?) O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)14:30:12 No.67770377 File: Lego_Insectoids_Catalog.jpg (193 KB, 800x398) >>67770353 (4/5) What Earth learned from the conflict allowed Futuron to become the prevailing megacorp, and opened up the possibility of interstellar travel and eventually the construction of the first buildgate. MEANWHILE, IN ANOTHER GALAXY.. The aliens of Zotaxia waged a bloody civil war. The Zotaxians are another race of persistent, hardlight-based life forms with highly advanced technology. Being hardlight-based, they can travel through "buildspace" unhindered. A large faction of refugees from this civil war fled their home galaxy, and ended up in ours, building a new home beneath the surface of the planet Holoxia. Holoxia, on the surface, is a barren and rocky world... but underneath the crust are layers and layers of caverns surrounding an "inner sun". These caves maintain an ecosystem dominated by massive, hardlight-and-silicon- based insects (dubbed bilgen bugs). The Zotaxian refugees (now calling themselves Holoxians, subtly changed by the planet's energies) were forced to adapt to this new environment by repurposing their vehicles to mimic the forms of the bilgen bugs in order to traverse the subsurface world of Holoxia unmolested. Their vehicles are powered by Voltstones, energy crystals able to recharge themselves in the rays of the inner sun, designed to look like bilgenbug eggs so they may be placed and "charged" in the bug's nests unnoticed. The life of a Holoxian is tough and unforgiving, but it is a life free from their former oppressors. Or it has been, for the past several generations. But the Zotaxian military has never given up the search for their former enemies, and their General has recently arrived from their home galaxy to find them and bring them back under Zotaxian rule. (Zotaxians = UFO sets, Holoxians = Insectoids sets). It's only a matter of time before the General finds them.... or the colonies. O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)14:31:56 No.67770401 File: 6979.jpg (201 KB, 874x626) >>67770377 (5/5) The colonies are unaware of this, and of ANY extraterrestrial life for that matter. After the Mars conflicts, Humanity has not made first contact with any new civilizations. Recently, though, the Explorien Corporation has arrived in-system studying what appear to be strange alien fossils. The Exploriens seem more interested in peaceful exploration, but do they have a hidden motive? Their technology appears to be more advanced than that of Futuron and the other Corps. What's their real story? How did they break the secret of smart androids? And what's the story with these fossils? What aren't they telling? Those are things I figure are better as plot hooks, but I think in general terms: The fossils are of an older race (Perhaps Zotaxians? Perhaps precursors?) that are themselves a hardlight-silicon-based life. Studying the fossils are what broke the code of creating smart androids and unlocking new secrets to hardlight, and that's why the Exploriens are so good at it. Also, I think Spyrius was able to kitbash their droids together years ago this same way - perhaps after discovering and rebuilding wrecked Zotaxian/Insectoid techdroids. And perhaps that's why they're able to pump out robots like nobody's business. That's what I've got so far. As usual, comments, critiques, suggestions, etc. are all welcome; I consider this a community project more than "mine" and I wouldn't have come up with half of this if you guys hadn't shown up. Next I think l'll work on fleshing out individual factions, so get those ideas out there! Also, all terminology is pending... things like build gates etc are mostly placeholders O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)14:46:28 No.67770642 File: 6958_Android_Base.jpg (189 KB, 800x574) >>67770401 Miscellaneous s---: I should add, l'm envisioning the "colonies" being a collection of maybe a dozen stars, surrounding the central build gate (which is the most densely populated, and the seat of Futuron's strength). Further outward expansion is hindered only by supply lines to and from the build gate; uninhabited star systems aren't inaccessible, they're just further away. Planet Spyrius sits hidden at the "edge" of what is currently colonized. Holoxia is outside the colonies, but close enough that someone like the Exploriens could discover them. The Zotaxians are searching for them, and are likely to start a conflict with anybody else they encounter. Any conflict would inevitably spill into the colonies. But these are the "looming, mysterious threats" rather than the clear and present danger. Explorien Corp might have secret Crystaliens in captivity. Futuron might have secret Martians kept alive back home. Spyrius might be lead by a droid, and that droid might be a an ancient and malfunctioning/repaired Zotaxian (or Holoxian, or "unnamed precursor") techdroid. It might be pulling a Skynet- style long con against the colonies. Or none of these things are true, they're just some potential plot hooks. O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)16:56:57 No.67773015 The part about interstellar travel being relatively slow (minimum of months, if not years or decades) the stargates only being able to transport inorganic matter would explain how Spyrius is a thing. The planet could be located at the edges of explored space, making sending a force to wipe them out very difficult due to the sheer travel time involved. Possibly the exact location of the planet isn't even known. However, since inorganic matter can pass though gates without issues, the Spyrians could have contructed their own gate and use and use it to transport their androids. Since they're way ahead of most other factions in Al development (possibly due to finding some precursor technology on Spyrius), this gives them a major advantage. Aside from the obviously robotic androids, they probably also have ones designed to pass off as humans, which they use for espionage. The androids could infiltrate other organizations, steal data, and use the jump gates to escape back to their base without being able to be followed by the Space Police. O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)18:01:29 No.67774053 File: Interceptron Transformer.jpg (3.08 MB, 3507x2478) Ok, here we go This is the Spyrius Interceptron Droid, a roughly man sized infiltration-focussed droid with two modes. The first mode, traveling mode, takes the form of a miniature, 2 meter long spaceship. It's as fast as a standard spaceship and, due to being purely mechanical, can evade being discovered by bioscanners. It is designed to be a stealth spaceship mode, though newer radars can pick them up. hand-waved as the central navigation module). After traveling to its destination it can switch to humanoid mode to more easily navigate inside spaces. This mode is less agile and subtle than androids who possess just a humanoid mode, but the travel form allowing for quicker attacks and less chance to be discovered upon entry . If seen by the naked eye it is often mistaken for a normal sized spaceship and therefore expected to be farther away and not posing direct danger. (The cockpit being there doesn't make much sense other than to give it a Transformers look. It could be either ignored or be makes up for it. Humanoid form possess standard android intellect and multiple hacking and information-extraction programs and tools, as well as a self-destruction protocol, should the mission be a failure. Interceptrons can use weapons in this mode, but rarely come outfitted with them, due to already being clunky for an espionage android and being focussed on staying undiscovered anyway. I've always really like the angle of Spyrius being specialized in robots and androids and a shapechanging infiltration android just made sense to me. Also it fits quite well with the idea of Jumpgates only being able to transport non-biological matter, so Spyrius , as a sort of guerrilla spy group, had to resort to creating artificial minions to bolster their ranks quickly. O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)18:02:35 No.67774080 File: Spyrius tank1.jpg (775 KB, 1836x2199) Secondly, the Spyrius Tremor Tank. I imagine Spyrius having multiple hidden bases on and inside meteors and asteroids. There (and on Spyrius itself) these tanks can be found. They only ever get used in missions in the rarest of cases, mostly just being stored in the hangars of their bases. But in case of an all-out raid on the base itself these tanks, with the help of some airborne defenders, can keep the attackers at bay long enough for the crew inside the base to delete all sensitive information, flee the base and cover their tracks. O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)18:03:40 No.67774095 File: Spyrius tank3.jpg (1.89 MB, 3264x2448) Once the base is cleared of all crew and information, the cockpits of the tanks detach from their bases, the communication gear swings forward (improving the location and navigation functions) and the barrels swing back, becoming propulsion units. When the cockpit has shifted to escape-configuration, it gets sent encrypted space-locations of the course of the escape vessel with the rest of the crew and travels there. These escape pods reach extremely high speeds, but they can only travel for very short distances. I've always like the modular capabilities of many classic Lego sets and in a universe, where it is much easier to send inorganic material than crew members it seems logical most ships would have some sort of escape pod and in colonies there would be a very clear philosophy to accept material losses if it means there's a higher chance of lives being saved. O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)18:04:53 No.67774114 File: Ice Planet WIP.jpg (1.28 MB, 2663x2142) Lastly I have this very rough wip of an Ice Planet utility vehicle, because they are really lacking in that department. For the finished version the lower part would be much bigger in relation to the cockpit. I imagine this vehicle being accompanied by some other vehicle made for cutting ice blocks out of mountains and pic related then picking up those pieces and transporting them either to a research station (should they contain some sort of precious mineral or other interesting objects) or just dumping them somewhere. The combination of those vehicles would allow for quick tunnel building or maybe even excavating spaces for bases built into ice mountains. Also the resulting ice blocks could be used to build structures as well. O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)18:11:51 No.67774257 File: Desertron pics.png (2.04 MB, 1454x1088) Oh also this my silly OC faction „Desertron" Just a small crew that stranded on a planet mostly comprised of a barren desert and in search of water, which they carry in rounded canisters and use both for themselves and as fuel for their machines (No idea why they wouldn't use solar energy, it doesn't make sense at all). Also one crew member swears he saw insect like humanoid silhouettes in the distance, but surely that's just the heat... This doesn't really fit in any big canon, but it might be a neat plot hook for some small rescue mission adventure or just background fluff that never gets followed up on. I like the idea of there being a bunch of small independent spaceship crews, hoping to make a fortune by exploring planets ignored or not yet reached by the bigger corporations. O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)14:58:02 No.67770832 >>67770377 Weren't the Insectoids all humanoid with heavy cybernetic modification? O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)15:12:30 No.67771098 File: lego-ufo-alien-blue-minif(...).jpg (116 KB, 700x700) >>67770939 >>67770984 >>67771002 As opposed to >>67751066 and pic related. I'd actually make the Insectoids/Holoxians a completely separate "race" from the Zotaxians, maybe rather than escaping a civil war on their homeworld they're two species that shared the same system and the Zotaxians conquered them, and just have weird alien mentality where they don't take too kindly to the Holoxians "escaping" their empire. Or something. O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)16:02:55 No.67771996 >>67771098 The "original lore" called the UFO aliens Zotaxians, and ALSO called the Insectoid aliens Zotaxians that were "on the run from their evil leader". The two themes were not released concurrently, though, so it could have just been a recycled name. I took the opportunity to expand on it, expanding on the "on the run" bit... But I also forgot they were opaque. So let's switch it up. They're either another "caste", or a race that was subjugated. Maybe even the UFO Zotaxians are a construct race that took over, machine uprising style? O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)16:10:01 No.67772135 >>67771996 What if the Zotaxians weren't always cyborgs or hardlight and were once an organic species, but were once a single race that had to adapt to a drastic change to their home world, and one faction did so by becoming cybernetic, and the other by putting their consciousness into hardlight constructs? This could also be the source of the civil war (similar to Total Annihilation, one of the best RTSS of the 90s) O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)14:27:49 No.67770335 File: 6155-1[1].jpg (141 KB, 871x599) LEo SYSIEM What if I wanna have underwater adventures? O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)16:34:00 No.67772601 File: 6198-1.jpg (206 KB, 872x624) >>67770335 Perhaps the initial push for space colonisaiton came about because Earth suffered a catastrophic environmental collapse, complete with massive sea level rises. A few hardy souls remained on earth, eventually making use of the technological advances in power generation, hardlight and sealed environments to begin reclaiming the planet. In turn, the developments in deep sea habitats and diving vessels have allowed new colonies to be formed offworld on aquatic worlds which were formerly uninhabitable. Alongside the "official" underwater colonies, pirate raiders, scavengers and other, weirder factions have developed. O Anonymous 08/11/19(Sun)23:49:47 No.67779015 >>67770335 >>67772601 I like the idea of Hydronauts and Scorpions being divergent factions of the original Aquanaut explorers and colonizers, and the Aquashark dissidents who chaffed under the rule of their corporate transportation sponsors and the subsequent contracts of indentured labor. Over time ideological and philosophical divisions grew greater, until the discovery of energy crystals in deep ocean trenches (Later discovered to be a subterranean phenomenon that was pushed upwards as a result of plate tectonics. Developments in deep-earth mining technologies resulted in the establishment of the Rock Raiders, who came to public consciousness after the disappearance of one of their flagship vessels, the LMS Explorer, which to this day is one of the most famous unsolved mysteries of space exploration) ignited their animosity into full-blown conflict. On one side were the more technologically advanced, corporate-sponsored Hydronauts, who used liquid-breathing technology to enable abyssal-trench exploitation. Opposing them were the Stingrays, who engaged in full-blown genetic alteration to free themselves of their reliance on expensive off-world manufactured goods, the cost of which often resulted in divers taking on further debt before they had even repaid their initial transportation contract. O Anonymous 08/14/19(Wed)05:36:03 No.67817953 >>67744810 I'm gonna use this as a rough basis and expand it to include all the non-licensed space themes. Thanks OP. O Anonymous 08/14/19(Wed)08:26:46 No.67819272 >>67744810 What about the medieval sets ? O Anonymous 08/14/19(Wed)12:27:29 No.67822196 >>67819272 They are far too removed from this and would work better as their own world. O Whiteagle 08/14/19(Wed)14:56:37 No.67824226 File: 37058628275_1a453b2e97_o.jpg (1.9 MB, 2275x2945) >>67822196 >they are far too removed from this and would work better as their own world. As in literally their own entire World, bootstrapped by stranded Spacers into a Techno-Fantasy land! O Anonymous 08/15/19(Thu)09:06:48 No.67836529 >>67744810 This post reminded me of the insane canon I had for all my LEGO sets back in the day. I think I set the whole story on Ice-Planet but I needed an explanation as to why they never left so Ice Planet was actually a giant planet the size of a solar system with several small stars orbiting it for light(I was a kid so forgive my scientific ignorance) and there were "Gravity Sinks" where all the gravity of the planet was concentrated leaving only regular earth normal gravity everywhere else. The Ice Planet people were a faction who were able to survive long periods in the ice, everyone else was trying to stay alive by going really fast or building giant ships to stay warm, the robot-heads(my autistic brother ate almost all of the heads of my early LEGO mini-figs so I stuck various parts on them to make them robots) were a faction allied with the Ice Planet characters. Blacktron and Spyrius(who had a few specific robot-minifigs who were evil) were the bad guys and the Robots(big non-minifig robots I made from some random Technic sets) were against everyone. The Space Police were good guys stranded on the planet trying to establish law and order but needed the Ice Planet factions resources to survive. The Exploriens could actually escape the planets gravity but stayed looking for alien tech that everyone was after. There was a bounty hunter I had who was an early Space Police mini-fig I got years after Space Police was upgraded, he hated one of the Insect-people and some other character I can't remember but he was also evil and had a weird face under his mask. I took a lot of inspiration from He-Man as I recall. I played in that world nearly every day for about five-six years and l'd forgotten all about it, never even wrote it down. It's nice to go back to a place like that even if only for a few minutes, thanks Anon. LEGOLAND](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/002/276/011/905.png "Lego Space Setting Worldbuilding (part two)")
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![File: normal_fepict21ipg (30 KB, 500x574) O Anonymous 10/03/16 Mon 17:08:39 No. 49628 195 2$49636313 *49636528 3>49636602 49644938 >>49628315 >>49628575 49629040 >>49629057 >>49629285 >>49630765 >>49635127 >>49635669 >>49635682 >>49635984 >>49636108 >the Fighter keeps putting the Wizard's spellbook on high shelves so he can "help" find it Anonymous 10/03/16(Mon)17:18:58 No.4962831549628423 >49628474 4962915349630707 49630748 49635088 49635289 49636467 >49628195 (OP >Wizard doesn't simply Fly up there >Fighter isn't already mind-controlled not to do stupid pranks in the first place S--- Wizard. Tippyverse is the only setting that makes sense and this tomfoolery wouldn't happen there Anonymous 10/03/16(Mon)17:28:28 No.4962842349628473 49628474 4963073049631028 49633607 49635088 49635160 49635289 49635297 49635304 49635594 >49636520 >49636571 49637564 >49639224>4963937Z>49640380 49640897 >>49643262 >49644261 49644468 >>49645514 File: weird al weird orb.gif (2 MB, 375x276) 9249644502 49645012 49628315 Let's break this down a little, figure out what's going on with your response Now, you made a bunch of assumptions. You assumed a specific, obsolete system, a particular (and extremely literal-minded rules-as-written) setting within that system, a wizard level high enough to waste powerful spell slots on mundane tasks, and a character personality at odds with what OP proposed. All of this is stupid and wrong of you to do But your real error is more basic. OP proposed a character interaction, and you yelled "NO." This is fundamentally bad form in tabletop, improv, and life in general "Yes, and" is a good answer, "yes, but" is good if you're dubious of the premise. Both lead to further conversation. Your answer, however, is that of an a------. Try to do better in future Anonymous 10/04/16(Tue)01:38:32 No.4963360749635182 File: dimplekek ipg (147 KB, 1000x666) Anonymous 10/04/16(Tue)05:46:01 No.49635297 Anonymous 10/03/16(Mon)17:33:59 No.49628473 49635182 File: man what if I told you s--- ipg (10 KB, 300x235) 49628423 Holy f--- >Anon casts Conflagulate on Shitposter 49628423 Anon Gets Told: The Post Anonymous 10/04/16(Tue)05:19:05 No.496350884963515449635182 49628423 2> not rekt [] Anonymous 10/04/16(Tue)06:25:53 No.4963559449635890 2> h-------- l'm not sure l've ever seen anyone get so rekt with so little warning on /tg/ before](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/177/411/a03.png "Anon gets told")
![Anonymous 10201 1mujt3 2011。16685377曰 15584827 I was ance trapped in a similar box with a wizand As pat of our quest to destroy cabal of high level liches l had been researching ichdom heady and had by that port fgued uta Bay to make myself ich and atar wating for my party to tae ma (they never dd, wera wene splis into two groups and tha othar two in my group got talapoted halt way around the world i, another trap > l tuned myself ireo a lich . remained brapped in that room for two hundred years before some adventurers accidentally brake me out. By that point I was haf mad AND a ich □ Anonymous 1020/11(Thu)13:22 No 16686403 Ξ You kil thase advanturas? □ Anonymous 10/20/11(Thu)13 27 No 166354478 I went to hug the frst one who walked throughth door and sh shot a bot at my head I then killed them al and animated th roge who broke □ Anonymous 10/20/11(Thu)13 29 No 166864668 Imagine thare surprise. In some alternate universe were thay ware the PCa, their dickhaad DM put a ich in a sealed chamber for a group of low level PCs Anonymous 10/20/11/Thu,13 35 No 16665623 Huh Hadat thought of inthat way What a complete d--- move Though I wl admit the exparience gave me new axparience for what t is ika being an undaad trapped in a dungaon My DM mada me oll a d20 for avery decade I w離down there to see what happened I ha d fetsteps twice and once heard someone yel Not a very fun!ing existence □ Anonymous 1020/11(Thu)13 39 No 16685565H 2 16685523 Day 4532 A small beetle found it's way into my chamber today t was the first chance Id had to soul drain something in decades, what a d □ Anonymous 10/20/11(Thu)13.53 No 16686703 16636565 Day 22995 inaty days since I heard the foctsteps Decided this moming to stop screaming, whoever was hare has probably let Tomomow wil start counting the blocks i, the wal again Going to gue53 there 3re 4535 of them 53me last time □ Anonymous 102011(Thu)14 01 No 16686796曰 Day 45321 My experiment to imagine a new personality from bith up in my mind isnt going well He got beat up by imaginary bulias agan and imaginary school Also, the sound of this gnowing moss is dealeningI gotta do another scraping □ Anonymous 10.2011(Thu)14 07 No 166858508 Day 25668 Turned 100 today Figured it was an important day drew smley faces of blocks 2222. 1111, 3333, and 4444 1 then invited my new friends to a party It was racher awwand, I couldnt gat any conversation Sowing □ Anonymous 10/20/11(Thu)14 07 No 166858513 Day 52903 Imaginary Larry had an interesting day today, as he kolled his fest kobold He kapt its severed head as a trophy That will teach them Lamy that will show those bastards □ Anonymous 10/20/11(Thu)14 10 No 166858728 Day 2591 Reaized today that I have been wearing the same underwear for seven years I am disconcertingly bothered very little by this □ Anonymous 102011(Thu,14 21 No. 16085978曰 Day 56278 Treachery! Imaginary Larry (or Lord Lary as he styles himself now) has decided to retire rom adventuring Citing a long and successful career adding to the fact that he is getting older and wants to settle down with that cheap evish w---- his is aways with (I have wamed him about her why won't ha laten?) He has promised to stay in touch, to wite and stop by to viat, but clams that he seally ia looking forward to ratiramant Mutiny! We stil havent gotten the crown of fed thrones om he lair of the Red Wyrms! □ Anonymous 10/20/11(Thu)14 26 No 1668603013 I just realzed how I could be the dream of a ich trapped in a treasuna room Cool □ Anonymous 102011(Thu)1428 No 166860438 Day 60341: Had that dream again where my mother and sister were making out naked agan My therapist sad that this is perfectly natural and not to search for too much meaning in my dreams 1am still bothered by this though. This is most ikely because I do not sleep and there is no therapist □ Anonymous 10aa11(Thu)1428 No 16686050A Day 665042 ve fnally re-ramembered how to speak common. Nota do not invent new languages when nong else can speak t i have to go to Lal and see f the blacksmith has fnished making my cat □ Anonymous 10/20/11(Thu)1431 No 166360758 Play your naxt character as a guy who believes himself to be the product of a hatf insane/ bared lich in a treasure room's imagination □ Anonymous 10.2011(Thu)1431 No 166860808 Day 665093 Used some clothing fragments to make a doll for Larry's daughter Even though she's a half-elf chldren of any race deserve to have nice things. I am her godfather, after all. On a side note, I never considered how long my hair would get after not cutting it for so long it's rather appaling Anonymous 102011(Thu)14 36 № t6686118曰 Day 9496 Today I was finaly able to run up the side of the wall and do a double back ip while landing on my feet Wish someone was around to see it Wish I had spent the past few years trying to master something more productive □ 008 10-20/11(Thu)14 36 No 16686127曰 So what happens ifit turns ou卖to betrue? So what happens when thi皋character nevitably conas across a iché sealed ira treasure room and sets him free? Ce to麒ist? Contine on wth the 3derture 35 the Liches s maginary fhend? Become the lich? O Anonymous 1020/11mu)14 37 № t66861338 one side and 665100 ve got to show Larry this new mention of mne t's a thin matal plank sharpened along both edges and brought to a pont wrapped n leather on the other l think cal 、acar btw, Ive saved all this for my BigBad ich in an up coming campaign Im running Excellant Anonymous 1020/11mu)14 38 Na 16686140 Continue on with the adventure as the Liche's imaginary hend? This! you ane now a Lich's imaginary friend. it is time to adventure! □ Anonymous 10/20/11(Thu)1440 No 16686163合 016競6140 And so begns .ngs newest fad Imaginary Lich Quest □ Anonymous 10/20/11(Thu)14 40 No 16686167 It turns out that you were brought into exiatence by the pure belothat you actually axisted. So when you rescue the Lich. you could cantinue to adventure with him until it is ravealed that you are a igment of his imagination brought to Ife, at which point you probably caase to exist on the spot □ Anonym,ous 10/20/11(Thu)14 42 No 16686 180 1.78 MB, 352 240 1282473438882 pt ooking forward to tha □ Anonymous 10/20/11(Thu)1446 ND 166862098 perhaps th-lich wil and he's ben·fragmert of your mind all along Maybe h phylacfphy broke years ago and you are his r* ncarnated soul □ 008 1020/ 1 1(Thu)14 46 № 16606214曰 But f you koll the Lich, maybe you could bacome him. □ Anonymous 10/20/11(Thu)14:46 No 16686219H Ther- ks actually·way ou but the Lich's shizophrenic mind has kept him from noticing t while Larry is actualy him, conquering the land and fueking Imagine thair taces whan thay enter the last crypt in tha BBEG's fartress af doom to find him graoting tham glesfully as his saours Then they possibly befriend him just to find out he is their enemy but he is also not F------ quantum lich □ Anonymous 10/20/11(Thu/14 47No 166362248 Imaginary Phylactery. Thats f------ brilliant □ Anonymous 10/20/11(Thu)14:49 No 166862418 Day 36525: Today is my hundredth year since I first entered this room. I decided that I would turn over a new leaf and wrote heart felt letters to both Nerva and Sony taling them that I ha e finally fig en tam for leaing me the placa all those years ago Neva that bastard halterim not bang spiteful he was born out of wedock), t5 probatiy sti alive Full figured Sonya 53dly most likely deceased she would be 124 d i seem to recal we hurnans dont usually live that long Stil, sel good to reieve myself of that anper. Cant seem to fnd the post office though □ Anonymous 10/20/11(Thu)14 49 No 16686246 囚1462 KB 638x850 2029827734 58a7aafb28_apg) 10/20/11(Thu) 14 49 No 16636248 5i0-14 KB. 261x166, 1275069893777s jpg MY MIND IS BEING R---- INTO A PUDOLE OF QUIVERNG G00 □ Anonymous 102011(Thu]15:09 ND 166864468 81 KB, 540x540, PoohTrasToThink jpg) the The only way to be yourselffrorna trapped room is to create an imaginay character so vivid and tealistic tha, character actually materalzes in the real world and then opens the door to the room fom the outside Because the trapped room actualy magically anchantad nam for young wizards to studypractica trying to astral proiect ar talaknesis ther way out of theroom](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/001/027/680/2cb.jpg "Quantum Lich")
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