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![New Destructoid Head Editor and Jonathan McIntosh Together "Changing the Rules" About Game Violence New Destructoid head alilor Jonathon Holmes has long been outspoken on twitler about his dogut with video game depictions of violence, even throwing a few jabs at the gamers who find erjoyment in sach games. But not until the recent Target ban of Grand Tht Aano 5 in Australian Target and Mart outlets did he theow his full suppoert behind pressure groups who intend to ban video game calls "eeal life Conoomed gamers tweeted to the new head editor of Destroked about the remma』of the game, to which Holmes responded "GTA is gross, Don sell i if you don't want When wamed about the possibility of an ouright bn spearheaded by groups such as, Holmes opined. That's fine. On Rusia Today, speaking about the has, Holmes atlempied to minimise any dangers of cemoshp, and was unchoracterisdtically silent on his opinions ahout the dangers of video game violence Holmes says opting out of playing or puschasing the pame is sot esough because Tses workers] believe il uivialies the crime of hiring sex weekers and then killing them, which happens in seal life a lot. Do petitions removing games and other fition from major res bother Holmes? Holmes' respone to as simple-Nope. Speaking on twitter aboat the subject, Holmes had the following to say: if I were a sex wok, Id probably do a petition like that. I get where they're coming from I think [GTA 51 trivializes jest about every crime, GTA is a socioph simulator GTA 51 does reward yoa with heal oring sex, and money foe killing sex workers, rght? Am1 I wouldnt blame cab drivers if they wareed GTA V toot be sold at Tarpet Tm surprised that people who have had their cars stolen havent done a petition againe GTA yet My gees is that if there were a movie about a puy who hires sex workers and kills them. Target would that too think there is more to GTAs ppeal tha 'crime cton. GTA isn'just a crime story,. It's a sociopath simulator The difference between sport and crime is all in how culturally accepied it is. Our calture accepts a o of temible things @Rexboy333 I dunno, if I were a sex bably do a petition like that get where they're coming from 029 AM-9 Dec 2014 Holmes alsocowmed controversy recently when he reacted a statement鞃uming hat gamers posting with the hashtag GamerGate were probably to blame for a DDS atack on AbleGianers, afler the chanity bocked out of Mercodes Carrera's fundraiser bunad on her previous posting with the Cameriaie hashag. Holmes defended the movwe by AdeCiamers, even though the hasag woudd have appered 如where on the charity nnan, "Backing scmething irn nutral. It's active support. They want to stay Birds of a Feather These secent revelations of Holmes keologies call inno question his loag time relationship with sinilar mindad, highly iunial Feminist Frequency weiler and producer, Jonathan Melnlosh with whon according to their respective resumes, he attended college at the School of Mu of FK Arts fmm 997-2000 In 2012, befoee Peminist Frequency was produced, and while Holmes was writing for Destrucoid, the two discussed sexism in games on twimer, and reminisced aboet their time topeher at the school, while with Holmes stating Tean SMFA 4 LYFE Jonathan Mcintosh Dredicabytes 29 Nov 2012 Tronknotts-Aiso hey dude Not sure if you remember but we went to SMFA and used to play halo 1 sogether back in the good ld mac lab. Holmes @radicalbytes I do! I'm really happy to see how we'll you've done. Team SMFA 4 LYFE 056 AM-29 Nov 2012 The following year, Mclntosh releaned his newly produced first installmens of the highly influemial Tropes va Women series on the Femit Frequency youtube channel, which was promoted en idea ever since. Holmes has showed little sympathy for the concems of his readers about the idcologic of the channel, which ofen acese game developers of sesism on a sehjective basis, with the view that society shoald put pressure on these developers to alver their conment. His relationship with the producer of Fainit Frequency, well as his view of gamers' choues reflecting iheir owa morality in the real Many gamers see the increaning costrovensy surrounding the portrayal of women in games as the droct result of the videos on Feminist Freqeency as the inluence behind the Tarpet GTA 5 ban With outlets Naming the gaming community in peneral for strongly resisting the ideaspreseneed in the videos, and alleped death threats on Anita Sarkcesian, a Feminist Frequency presenter, the channel ultimately pained sational aention of the national media, with Sarkeesian labelling the gamers of GamerCiate harassers in no uncertain terms, and calling for changes in the portrayal of female characters in games. Shortly afier Feminist Frequency took the world by som, Target's Grand Tot Auto han was announced. Shortly thereafter, the cretor of Tekken T announced he would remove a controversial female character from game in Noth A Mclalush has been crilicized by ganers for (similarly to Jonathan Holmes) defending the removal of Grand The Aio from dores Mclnosh doesnt soe iE as censonship, unless its being done by the governmentWill Rocksar, Take-Two or Target face punitive measures by povemment for selling the product? No, so it's e censoeship. "The pamers of GanerGale were quick to point out dhax the ACLUUs definition of censorship does indeed sale Censoeship can be carried owut by the governmem as well as private pressure groups." Holmes calls Mclstosh an insightful person Changing the Rules on Gamers In one of many twitler exchanges ing back 2012, Mcltishepined io HInes "Sad tha, even uggesting violence in games be framed as tragic or sad insicad of celcbraied an hadass fun is met with violent Holmes respoaded to Mchlosh by saying "Changing the nules by saying well maybe harting people in games isn wesome is lake tuening their Jonathan McIntosh @radicalbytes Oet 27 Sad that even suggesting violence in games be framed as tragic or sad instead of celebrated as "badass fun is met with violent outrage @radicalbytes changing the rules by saying "well maybe hurting people in games isn't always awesome" is like tuming their world on its head 8:00 PM-27 Oct 2014 Details Holmes has been a hursh critic of GanerGate, and has even gone so far as to alienane his readers by Regarding the call for ethics by GamerGate, Josathan McIniosh and Jonathan Holmes apree thart gamers who dont agree wh their morals ane merely clinging to ethics "A bit strange that these folks HATE "morals" so very much bu e madly is LOVE with 'ehics. said Mclmosh to which Holmes responded "many whoe lacking in a ntural moral compass (empathy) become very allached to ahsoluie nules of right and wrong (ethics, Gamers using the GamerGone hashtag on twitter have not responded well to being collectively accused of sesism and harassanent for ying to hold game joumaliss to a higher standerd. When the CiamerCatie consumer revolt firsd eruptad, Holimes was one of the mcmy wrilers who participaled in the now infamous "Gamers Are Dead articke writing campaign, where similar articles slamming gamers were released simultancously across paming joumalism websines. That one of the wriers ceniral to the comnoversy has been promoted to head ednor of Destructoid does not bode well for the fature of relations between gamers and th¢ website. In similar fashion, Jonxhan Holmes and Jonathon McIntosh have both cited disputed studies poincing to the harmful effects of violent games. Jonathan Holmes sas. Grand Theft Childhood had some furn research on how grophic pop violence combo is the most unhcalthy for kids"while Jonathan Mclnlash asscrts "Sciemific consemsus is thai playing violent video games increanes aggression and aggressive behavions Amaxing so many are still in denial, and The New York Times on the corsensas that exposure to extreme modia vielence is a risk factor in real life violence me unicle Melmosh mentioned was wrinen by a际hiaric consultiag group thi works with media prodacers. Acconling to Destractoid Holmex' day job is as a social worker in a pychiatrie hospital, so i may come to no surpeise that he comes al games from a clinical perspective, one thai many gamers are wary of Groups anempling to ban or censor games either through publie peessure or legislation are nou a new thing. Gillers are used li,礼But this new group seeits Dhne infiltri ed the game journalist. world. so irs n'E an easy a target. Insieaal of ar, attack frum politicians arxl religious itstitutims, gamers say they feel attacked from within, by the very game journalists and critics thry trust to make informed purchasing choices, something they say the nGamtile hashtag is all about. Il Jonathan Mclnosh's Fenitist Froquency the rales for gamers as they stale is their goal? Time will sell Anon News Shitlords](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/000/879/603/a7e.jpg "a7e.jpg")
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