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![Statement by The Devil's Advocate This dispute has eluded resolution through other means ranging from raising concerns at conduct noticeboards and attempts at mediation regarding content. While editors with fewer contributions, as far as I know only those who are or are seen as favorable to the GamerGate side, have been routinely sanctioned or blocked, the established editors who are unfavorable to the GamerGate side and are the source of a lot of the conflict continue unimpeded. This is at least partly due to the fact that they have a sufficient number of sympathizers to prevent any consensus from being reached regarding their conduct. Another problem in this situation is that there are admins who are either WP:INVOLVED on the subject taking action against their opponents while giving them a pass or admins whose actions are otherwise dubious. Some of these admins have a history of questionable use of their admin tools on other topics. I can elaborate further on those details, though some of it is evidenced in the discussions linked above. Even though general sanctions have been imposed in the topic area and there are BLP discretionary sanctions covering some of these details, it has done nothing to stop this behavior from continuing and escalating as it has over the past week. A thorough review of all administrative conduct on this topic area, ranging from rev-deletions and suppressions to blocks and topic-bans, is requested in addition to reviewing the general conduct of editors.-The Devil's Advocate tk. cntrb. 00:41, 10 November 2014 (UTC) Note: I have trimmed my statement and removed my replies to comply with the restrictions on statements. An abbreviated version of my listing of admin concerns Dreadstar called Vivian James an attack cartoon in a dispute over the image, and has enforced the general sanctions, including this block for this comment Gamaliel has enforced the BLP discretionary sanctions and general sanctions , despite his involvement in the topic dispute itself and even after this arbitration request Future Perfect at Sunrise took several, actions against people in disputes with Ryulong , while ignoring Ryulong's own misconduct, even supervoting on a topic ban proposal seven hours after it was initiated. Future has a history of administrative and editorial misconduct See also: 1 2 Cuchullain is clearly involved regarding Anita Sarkeesian's article, but began repeatedly using the protection tools on GamerGate related articles after Sarkeesian was brought into the controversy, including making contentious edits through page protection based off 11 minutes of discussion Black Kite is involved in the dispute yet closed a discussion on Titanium Dragon in furtherance of Future's topic ban Bilby is heavily involved in the GamerGate articles and deleted the editthat prompted Titanium Dragon's first topic ban imposed by Gamaliel ]d) Other admins are named more due to questions of judgment regarding specific actions, especially when citing BLP. ArmyLine's topic ban is one such case, as is PhilKnight's use of oversight tools regarding a link to Medium blog post. Not every admin action is being questioned, nor is every admin who has taken action on this topic named as a party. This is about certain admins or certain admin actions.-The Devil's Advocate tk. cntrb, 21:20, 15 November 2014 (UTC)](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/868/136/edc.png "Wikipedia - Arbitration case request from TDA(The Devil's Advocate)")
![[-] wrecksomething 6 puntos 18 horas atrás Really felt Wales made a mistake stepping into this relatively minor issue. It's basically a one-word error (at most) that has since been rewritten Isquith writes The women bombarded with violence and abuse, the men hurling invective at anyone challenging their privilege; spurred by his unexamined need to find common ground, both, Auerbach writes, should share in the blame Pretty straightforward that Isquith is calling Auerbach out (rightly or wrongly) for victim blaming. Wikipedia originally summarized this as Isquith. criticizing his insistence that women harassed and threatened and men attacking those who challenged their privilege should both be held responsible for what Gamergate had become." Which is almost the same sentence through a thesaurus A different user changed "criticized his insistence" to "criticized him for saying" which I think was meant to make it seem more moderate, less insistent. But "saying" also reads as though the words came from Auerbach directly when they're Isquith's criticism. Which is Auerbach's complaint, that he didn't say those words Ryulong was wrong to take Auerbach's complaint as a threat (though it is strange that he singled out Ryulong). He apologized. From what I gather, Jimmy Wales was more upset at the article's error (and at a different user's behavior) enlace padre mmy Wales, Wiki Founder 10 puntos 8 horas atrás Actually, I'm not particularly "upset" about anything. I seek to defuse the situation by finding ways forward for good people (no matter what their opinions are of the underlying issues) who care about neutrality more than they care about gamergate This means that I am not recommending (and indeed actively recommend against) hordes of gamergaters who feel injured by the media, etc., coming to Wikipedia to "Right Great Wrongs" https://en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Wikipedia: Tendentious, editing #Righting-Great-wrongs But I am also recommending that several editors who have been involved realize that they are not helping to defuse the situation and to simply step away and let others handle it. If you've become part of the wider Internet drama (for example, by starting an AMA about yourself) surrounding Gamergate, then you likely should step away from the article Too many people view these things in terms of crime and punishment. It shouldn't be like that. We're here to write an encyclopedia, not engage in wider social conflicts enlace padre](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/868/117/086.png "Wikipedia- Jimmy Wales answers Ryulong's comments in Ryulong's AMA in r/GamerGhazi 02")
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![↑ [-] ithinkineedanap 36 points 3 hours ago And those guys are still head and shoulders over the blog news. I remember when Gamergate hit and all these people were totally outraged that "journalists" who worked for sites whose entire revenue stream came from companies whose products they reviewed, were biased! who would have thunk it? 100% ad supported news is always biased. It can't help but be, because you the viewer are the product being sold, not the news People weren't surprised, they just decided to start doing something about it after there appeared to be a coordinated smear campaign against their own audience. There'd been a climate growing for years, such as the Kane & Lynch debacle or Doritos pope. I mean Nintendo Power was a beloved magazine and it was just Nintendo supplied marketing everyone knew that, but was a kind of line between selling something and outright demeaning your audience. People in gaming were well aware of that overlap between "journalism" and marketing, since after all it's an entertainment medium. You get the same thing in music or movie journalism as well But you also had more to the context. You also had the long-running and seemingly unending smear campaign by mainstream media against gaming, since it's origins. And you had the resurgence of politically correct ideologies, fueled by social media, that had already created controversies among other communities, notably atheism and comics What happened with Gamergate is that the gaming journalism outlets, or at least several notable ones, outright turned on their demos, all seemingly in the name of political ideologies, and it was just the last straw. To make matters worse, the mainstream media just ran with that as well, where now gamers weren't just the violence obsessed social outcasts, but misogynistic racists as well. And the gaming demographic decided to stand up for themselves Whether the outlets are biased or not is less relevant, as there's nothing wrong with a consumer demographic deciding to hold those outlets accountable when they can, whether it's providing disclosure or other such measures, it has been Working perma link embed parent ↑ [-] tardayanami 5 points 1 hour ago This was amazing, thank you perma link embed parent ↑ [-] ehManiacal 15 points 3 hours ago Some of the worst offenders in the "gaming media" even have journalism experience and degrees too. Many gamers haven't considered gaming media real journalism for a long time and it largely is not perma link embed parent ↑ [-] ithinkineedanap 3 points 2 hours ago That's true a flash point with the combination of the "social justice" element as well. It may have appeared to pop up relatively overnight, but the climate had been ripe for a while Generally people are aware of what "gaming journalism" is about. Just look at the hype for new games and such where people voluntarily as part of a hobby will seek out any and all new information about a game. I mean they're just getting hyped over a product for months, and largely helping companies market their products by talking about them. People know that, and you see it in other tech areas and entertainment as well Where it crossed a line was when that media started bashing and insulting their audience. And those readers/consumers basically said "f--- this." nd people in gaming have been critical of that for a while. Gamergate only ha ned as things hit kind of perma link embed parent](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/005/001/fbe.png_large "How GamerGate started.")
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