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972 28th Jan 2015 from TwitLonger Extra Credits slander Id Ike to take this opportunty to address what I view as slander from James Pornow of Extra Creats at his MAGfest panel. During his panel he was questioned about Gamergabe, during which he made some statements which were questionable and one in particutar that is lat our factualily false I would lke to exercise my right of reply and make sure hat people kno·the truth This is not the first time Extra Credts has tripped up due to lack going to give them the During his panel James stated that i was a leader of Gamergate.I would ike to know exactly what constnutes hashtag, they have to give out orders and abjectives. Can you prove that I have done any of these things? Indeed if I recall corectly I have used the hashtag twice, once in a Thunderdap and once in a purey desariptive context regarding 22con Al no point have ' ever engaged th the hashtag or had conversations thin it, not that mars a sin in any way even tI had. Have I declared myself a leader of this, hing.. whanever t might be? very attempts at character assassination that we see levied at any and all with any prominence that would dare speak up for the people (yes, a reminder hat these are people not subhumans you get to buly) Involved and suggest that m aybe、they actuary have a p--- and you should engage them, bke adubs while freer g out trolls and 3rd party bad actors so me ciam, that ' am a leader or anything oner man my own cannel spurious at best, you can qubble over it bur i have never declared t nor ever attempted to mobiize this hashtag or this movement in The very idea that I am a leader of a movement thatI go out of my way to avoid mentioning at every possible opportunty is riiculous. He talks of denection and yet thats exacty what I see, the attempt to deflect the egnmate dscussion of ethical concerns in this industry, a discussion Ive been having since at LEAST 2011 and and 3rd party troils instead It isa Now we go onto the actuai faisehood James makes the outrageous claim that I was paid $20,000toendorse the game Guns of icarus He sources for this an articke on Gamasutra wrimen by Howard Tsao of Muse games Unfortunately, nowhere in this article is a doltar amount for tris promotional deal ever menioned, so this umber s ineraly puled from thin what hose involved in the deal were actuaily paid and Im going to gve him the benent of the doubt and say that he didnt do R totby and make us look bad by picking a huge number to shock the aucience. I imagine some people would do that but i'd lke to trink James is a better person Now onto the 'endorsement dlaim. A no point was any endorsement given to Guns of Icarus by myser. The deal was smple, be invoved in a "celebrity deathmalich" syle tournament which would be shot trom mutiple angles, the purpose of which was to raise awareness of the btie. This is native advertising. clealy disclosed native advertising in which Youhubers are compensabed for their time to play a game Opinions are not stated about the game at any point, E is live gameplay which for the most point involved shouting at our beammates and lttle more than that Does that constiote endorsement? To me, endorsement requires opinion, a spechc statement of support. This was never gven Indeed the frst Guns of Icarus brand deal took place after m ndependent assessment of the tnie. we were asked to play in their tournament only aher wed already come to a conclusion about the game where no money was ever involved A weak claim can be made that it synony mous wth 1 cant acually cniticise you for anything vald so I'm going to tie you to someone else and claim you are will however acmit some fauit in that our disclosure of this deal was intiaily inconsistent and in the wrong places. Disclosure on Youtube has vastly improved this year, after the discussion in early 2014 which I not only fully cooperated wh but admited I could have done much better and enhanced my disclosure to be absolutely unavoidable as a result. Previously disclosure was given on things ike twner, podcasts and to be found in missable channel are unavoidaby dsclosed, its impossible to miss Our hub channel Polaris aso suffered a simiar issue and has since enhanced disclosure, not that Ihave any control over what they do If James honestly thinks that a declosed Youtuber tournament is a tar larger ethical concern than the variouS confnicts of interests and disinct lack of disclosure in several proven instances then while he is entned t0 his opinion I am also enstled to call it grossly misguided James shows a fundamental lack of understancing ot the roles of Youtubers, the number of hats we where, the fact that we are not bradtional journalists hough that certainly does not stop us abiding by the disclosure rules that so many stes seem to convenlently forget every now and again). Whle tradional outlets claim to have a wal between edtorial and adverisement wings Youtubers are ofen solo operators. Games stes promote oties constantly with huge site skins and ads Sites like PCGamer have and continue to wrhe advertorial content (disclosed), Snes such as Kotaku frequenly use amane nks for which they receive a small kickback for each game sold, which naburally Includes games that have either n the case of these state any opinion or gve any endorsement to the stle and produces enjoyable content for our viewers. its a win/win its ethical(when properly disclosed) and t works, which is why some companies are choosing to do I am extremely disappointed in James poorly researched argumentI expect better of him and the Extra Credtz team les another knfe n the back 0m a person that we assisted and promoted in the past and at this point 28th Jan So much for the Twitter holiday Extra Credrs elected to reply to my rebuttal of their accusaions May I suggest Twtlonger? A bunch of @replies is a pretty ineective way of geting your point across. That said it does make it easier to rebut point by point gtotabiscuit Hey man, JP here About doing paid promation, I hear what I hear and ri got any of the detaib rong You hear wrong and you probably should't be quoing numbers that you have no basis for. That number is grossy exaggerated If you dont beieve me, you can go and ask Muse games, rm sure they wl be happy to call that number bogus, because t is @totabiscuit Without equwocating. can you answer yesimo: have you ever been paid to promote a game? Absolutely How anyone could have missed that considering we are so open about r that people have asked us taking about t too much, 1 never know didn't make your said it n my reply to you our intial dbdosure was based on adoe tom TGS/Polars and the FTC guidelnes totabisout If you can't answer those 2 questions wthout having to make cisclaimers r seems hypocrnical to shout for media ethics What disclamers are you relerring to? I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this. Also the hypocrisy point is a tu quoque talacy. For example, alcholics are onen in very good postions to talk about the dangers of aiconoi There is a very good reason why me first target for improved disclosure was our own channel『S that small chance it could be missed Our disclosure level is far and away better than ANY games meda site, it ib unavokdable it comes in a MINMUM of 3 forms, usually more, al drecly viewable on the video itself regarcless of device. its not merely a ine at the bottom of an article. I'm premy comfotable with our position on disclosure and the the amount of ser-refection we do Ive spoken at length about our levels of disclosure because I take go down the r concerns and the people making them. We haven't. We carefully took advertorial deals that we felt did not iolate audience did not object and we cid look for objections, we're always super concemed about producing content about people alegedy helping their friends whlle you take money to do the same thing what? dont take money to he my triends where dk) this come from? [Ctation needed! Well here's the thing. We never lost it in the frst place because we never made any effort to hide that information nor did we go after our viewers when things are pointed out that we couid do beter on that front This is a ittle rich considering the reason you we are having this conversation is that you accused me of a hidden ethics iolation that you can't prove Regardless that is irelevant to the point. They are being given plenty of chances. When PC Gamer addressed its confict of interest with Lbisoft, that was the end of the matter. They did the right thing and made improvements. When Potygon started disclosing who it donates to on Patreon, nat is them being given the chance to re-earn the trust of their audience when Kotaku and Escapist upciate thei ethics poicies, thats them re-eaming the trust of sheir audience. When Kotak Polygon, Destructoid and more when they do a. of mat, iorpedoes your point th顄they are 7ioden ethics violahons that l canT prove" They were aready proven, admimed by tme stes in question and addressed Those are closed cases you than any of the people yourve accused Why do you tink that is? Pemaps because I dont have to re-eam my audiences trust because I never lost it in the first place decisions based of what you say than the traditional YeS·they trust someone wno nas taken discosed brand deas to promone very specific games ra non-ednorai fashion I have iterally taken money from devs to advertise their products and people sta trust me Ask yourser why that s In my opinion, s because we don't infantaise our audience and we tackle these issues head-on There's a responsbiry that comes with the platfom you have rd just ask that you take a good hand look in the mirror before you do this much harm to our community Please cite instances of harm I have done to "our communRy" I would like to point out that the community in m eyes does not exist. There are 100s of milions of gamers on the PC plattorm alone. The only thing we have in common is that we lke to play games. That isnt a communty anymore than watching TV is. You'd be hard want more gaming youre wilng 10 do that, n' be the rrst person to reach out my hand and say·lers put this community back togemer You know I asked you about doing that months ago by emall. It never went anywhere. The pursut of ethics and harassment 've condemned t on numerous occasions but I'm not going to back oown from my consumer first poshion because the people I am tasked wih heiping and protecting are the guys working 60 hours a week andng to know whether or not the limited free time and disposable Income they have is going to be wasted because they bought a stinker. Those are the people 1 care about first and foremast because those guys are my audence and they gave me this ite. I owe them and games media would do very well to remember who ther audence is that gave them vis privileged position which a smail group of bulles have shown a wiingness to Twlonger, or a blog much better than those replies Twtter holday recommences.1lready have one kind

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Gamergate (harassment campaign) Article Talk From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia For other uses, see Gamergate (disambiguation). Gamergate or GamerGate (GG)[¹] was a loosely organized misogynistic online harassment campaign and a right-wing backlash against feminism, diversity, and progressivism in video game culture. [2][³] It was conducted using the hashtag "#Gamergate" primarily in 2014 and 2015.[1][4][5][6] Beginning in August 2014, Gamergate targeted women in the video game industry, most notably feminist media critic Anita Sarkeesian and video game developers Zoë Quinn and Brianna Wu, among others.[7][8][9][10][11] The harassment campaign included doxing, r--- threats, and death threats.[12][13][14] Gamergate proponents ("Gamergaters") stated that they were a social movement, but lacked well-defined goals, a coherent message, and leaders, making Gamergate difficult to define.[15][16][17] Gamergaters claimed to promote ethics in video games journalism, claimed to be protecting the "gamer" identity, and opposed what they asserted as "political correctness" in video games.[18][19][20][21][22] Read Date Target Gamergate, online harassment campaign in 2014-15 that targeted women in the video game industry. The attacks were attributed largely to white male right-wing gamers who railed against the rise and influence of women and feminism in the industry. Gamergate served as a recruiting tool for the growing alt-right movement and helped spur the online “Pizzagate" conspiracy theory, which soon spawned the wider QAnon conspiracy movement. …………………………....…..……….…..... Attack type Victims Motive View source Inquiry XA 28 languages ✓ Perpetrators Internet trolls, particularly from 4chan, Internet Relay Chat, and 8chan View history Tools ✓ Gamergate August 2014 - 2015 Women in the video game industry See all media Online harassment campaign Zoë Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu, and others Gamergaters created conspiracy theories falsely accusing Quinn of an unethical relationship with video game journalist Nathan Grayson.[23][24][25] More broadly, they alleged unethical collusion between the press and feminists, progressives, and social critics.[17][26] [27] These claims were widely dismissed as trivial, conspiracy theories, baseless, or unrelated to actual issues of ethics in gaming and journalism.[28] [29][30] Gamergate supporters frequently denied that the harassment took place, falsely claiming it to be manufactured by the victims.[31][32] Misogyny anti-feminism anti- progressivism FBI investigation Gamergate has been described as a culture war over cultural diversification, artistic recognition, feminism in video games, social criticism in video games, and the social identity of gamers.[28][33] [34] [35] Many supporters of Gamergate opposed the increasing influence of feminism and so-called "social justice warriors" on video game culture. [2][36] Gamergate led figures both inside and outside the gaming industry to focus on methods of addressing online harassment, ways to minimize harm, and prevent similar events. [37] [38] [39] [40] Gamergate has been viewed as a contributor to the alt-right and other right- wing movements.[21][41] Video game developer Brianna Wu
Jalen Hutchinson Studied Culinary Science at Culinary Institute of America (Graduated 2014). Author has 304 answers and 740.1K answer views. 5y Not that I care that much either way, but it did expose a lot of corrupt game developers and game journalists. X Journalists would make claims of people like Anita Sarkeesian "playing video games all her life" when she openly admitted many times she is not a gamer and only starter recently (when it wasn't for an interview). Various developers trading sex or money for good reviews got exposed, journalists who accepted got exposed. People became a bit more critical about supporting a game just because the developer has a victim complex stating tat their game could have only failed because of sexism, instead of their own poor developing skills. What really sealed the deal was opposition often faking their own harassment. Anita sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn have been caught multiple times screenshotting "harassment" while showing that the harrasser's account name in the login. Or when someone called the police to help Sarkeesian against a "very real threat" she was posting about, only for police to find the harasser's messages were coming from her IP address. I just want honesty from the community, and the lies were mostly exposed by the "dreaded" gamergate. 1.3K views • View upvotes 26
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Tl;DR TB "Yes, I take money from dev's to promote games, I get free shit from devs all the time to promote their games, but Atleast I'm Transparent and critique it. That still gives you no right to slander me as a sellout." mixed in with a buncha fact burns and angry Roid Rage Rants.

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