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i know i brought the subject before, but last thread got derailed into religious flamewar from some reason.

and I'm boggled and sickened to the core of what's going on with the so called "peace" negotiation between Israel and the Palastininans.
Because right now the peace loving, freedom fighting Palestinians are celebrating the
homecoming of their heroes – convicted murderers who slaughtered innocent people just because of their ethnicity.

here are some footage :Url or that documents these celebrations, how these criminal sub-human scum are being kissed, hugged and embraced. http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4447181,00.html:Url or http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4447181,00.html (don't mind all the hebrew, seeing the images is enough, the videos can be viewed as well)

stating again – they were all CONVICTED MURDERERS sentenced to life in prison, not some prisoners of war just 100% criminal scum.

Just for the record, there are also Jewish terrorists, albait very few, but no one in their right mind considers them heroes. they are scroned by the israeli scociety, you know, BECAUSE THEY ARE MUREDERRS.

do people seriously belive peace can be made with people who revel in our deaths? Who consider the lowest and the worst criminals as beloved HEROES!?

What the hell???

how come no one sees the insanity that is happening!? i should remind you that these killers were released just to START the peace negotiations!

"eh, you want us to talk about peace with ya? alright, how about in order to prove you really want peace just release 100 murderers?"

sounds really credible isn't it?

I'm appalled by the fact that there is zero reaction this madness, what other country would release murderers just to start a negotiation with anyone!?

How to people think releasing these creatures could somehow bring peace?
this will only make the conflict more bloody! hell their current president Abu-Mazen officially stated he will not sign any peace treaty until all of the Arab prisoners who are all, convicted criminals.
Does this really? sound like wanting to end the conflict!?

I want any of the pro-Palestinians to come up and provide me with a proper explanation how all this is ok and how it's still possible to make peace with people brainwashed from the age of 0 to despise anything that has to do with the Jewish state.

"Their under occupation" is not an excuse, many nations in the past(and some to this day), including the jews were oppressed and treated 100x worse than the Palestinians and none of them have heroes famous for slaughtering women and old men.

they will never stop their attempts of terrorism until we are all completely wiped out and driven to the sea.

OR, perhaps action can be taken? maybe instead of glorifying and immortalizing this conflict do something against their corrupt and evil leadership?

maybe after Gaza will be released from Hamas' terror regime, and the brainwashing will cease there could be peace?

do people seriously belive peace can be made with people who revel in our deaths? Who consider the lowest and the worst criminals as beloved HEROES!?

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And such is the nature of hate. But what do you propose to do, bomb them into nonexistence? That will only make them hate you more. Someone has to be the better society and step up to try to find a peaceful solution. Peace is always worth it, even if a few terrible people have to be released to try for it.

Brainwashing works both ways. That's all I have to say.

how these criminal sub-human scum are being kissed, hugged and embraced.

Every whore was once a father's little princess, every killer a mother's precious boy.

Editor's Note:
Here, I tried to fix as many of the numerous grammatical and spelling errors as I could. Also, thanks for finally learning what the shift key is.

Why can't Israel just kill every man women and child in the Middle-East? I mean Iraq has nuclear weapons, and now every other small country does too. How long will we the people of the earth, live with their stinky hut oppression? Will our Children have to endure how ugly their huts are? I say, to the countries of the world, rather than wait for a nuclear holocaust, you should fucking blow them the fuck up with your nukes! It's the only way for peace. Also, our the western world needs more land for our people. If the U.N just trials them as a society to be condemned to hell for all eternity then no human rights violations should occur for at least fifty years. All clay should belong to us! It's god's will!

Long live the master Jew race!

MFW typing this.

@Cale
fine, let the mom alone celebrate, why are there thousands of people celebrating the release of murderers?

@Connor the Brony
there are a few solutions. of course bombing them will not help.

the easiest the solution is just stop with those negotiations and let things be as they are, terrorism is at its lowest thanks to IDF's efforts and the Arabs already are slowly blending with the israeli society.
it will take decades, but its only a matter of time before the fuel for the hate will run out.

But the most righteous solution is to illuminate the evil and corrupt leaders that immortalize the conflict.
Hamas tortures and executes anyone that has friendly relations with the Israeli government. Kids books fabricate horrid atrocities committed by "the zionist scum" and how it's a holy act to kill them.
their spiritual leaders preach day and night that Jews are pigs that need to be slaughtered.

so on and so forth. their leaders obviously don't want to end the war because hatred for jews gives them tremendous power, they don't really care for their people, they just want to sit on their comfy president's chair.

only when these tyrants will be put down, peace will be possible

I don't really know enough about the conflict between Isreal and every single other nation that they've ever come in physical contact with, but I do have this opinion:

It's not the US's problem, and we need to stop pouring resources and manpower into the middle east.

There's too much conflict in the middle east. We need productive peace talks between the Assyrians and Babylonians.

Let me just sum up the middle east.

The use of the word "Jolly" in your username is quite misleading. Most of your posts have been anything but jolly.

here's my honest reaction to the middle east

On another note, do you think America could win this war we've been having for last 12 ****ing years because they know where all the leaders are and only kill them when it serves the purpose of prolonging the war?

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I'm starting to get that feel that my country has some stupid people running it who can't even keep a secret secret. Their failure to do their job is the biggest kick in nuts for me, it's not even like people are looking anymore. They just assume that some rich asshole is behind it all. I mean come on, the Taliban are like goat herders fighting the most incredibly well trained military that has ever existed. If you're gonna have a war for stupid reasons at least have one you can realistically and logically make look good.

Don't even get me started on the NSA, they suck at their jobs. Matter of fact I bet they all sit around looking at porn on Facebook.

That is how a Middle-East rant is done people. Not that anybody cares, or else all hell would break lose in that worst case scenario

This thread will totally end with someone's opinion changing, guys!

@sweatie killer

Im terribly sorry but the video is not a correct summery of the conflict, the jews are defending themselves. they didn't start the conflict. all they want is to live in peace while the palastinians and their supporters fight because they refuse to live next to the Jews on the same land.

they said quite a few times that the soon-to-be Palastinian state will be "Clean from Jews".

either way, it doesn't justify their celebration of murder and the sloughter of the young and weak.

although, i can agree on the conspiracy thing.
i heard some theories that the western nations actually desire to keep it unsolved because it's profirtble to them (weapon sales, influence, etc.)

The video doesn't pick a side, it's simply pointing out the history of the Middle-East, which is forever doomed to repeat itself until somehow people stop killing each other.

Israel has tanks, fighter jets, and attack helicopters
Palestinians have a rock
So who is the real bad guy?
Granted I don't condone either side but sounds like you're a bit biased there Jolly
Check your Privilege

No government in the history of the earth has been content to "live in peace".

What about Sealand?

Come on you know they've got something in the works.

I don't know what but I can assure you.

It's gonna be off the chain.

Sealand was 'established' by a family who forcefully evicted members of a pirate radio station from the 'land' to establish their own pirate radio station. They fired warning shots at British workers sent to the area from armed guards, claiming they were trespassing. After discovering that the area is outside of British jurisdiction, the 'Prime Minister' attempted to kidnap the son of Paddy Roy Bates. It failed and the 'Prime Minister' was arrested on the grounds of treason. His successor, Johannes Seiger, claims that the Bates family are the illegitimate rulers of the land and that Seiger himself is the rightful owner. HavenCo was a business established as a data haven for, you know, unregulated data. The business was shut down after an internal dispute over the value of the company. Passports illegally produced in Spain, possibly by a group associated to Johannes Seiger, were used in high-profile crimes. Bates revoked all passports including those issued by himself in 1997. Sealand was put up for sale for ~£600 million in 2007-2010

In other words, they may not be at war with other nations, but they're certainly at war with themselves.

yeah it's easy to conisder them now as helpess but people love to forget that ther was a time when Israel was weak and barely had arms while the Arabs vastly outnumbered them.

but it doesn't really matter. even if the Palastininas do have only sticks and knives, they are the ones intetionally murdering innocent people and revel in great victory every time the succeed doing so.

am i biased because i don't like people getting murdered for no real reason?

But there is a reason, and the reason is because the Israeli Military is "Murdering" them.

Don't you mean Hamas? Saying Palestinians are murdering people in general is stupid, because Palestinians have fractions of ethnic groups like any other culture. That's like saying all Jewish people are bankers.

No it isn't if the israeli millitary did want to "murder" them they would have wiped them out in a matter of days.

it's all just a part of an idiotic cycle when palastininan terrorists commit crimes, and then when action is taken against them they start crying, playing the victim and worship the human rights they shamlessly violated just a few moments ago
Hence, the pics of them dancing and celebrating the return of these murderers home.

@Sweatie

Yes i meant hamas, the problem lies with the fact that the majority of the Arab population supports these guys.
maybe because they are being constantly brainwashed and they don't know any better. but instead of trying to fix this by destroying that terrorist regime and reforming the people the UN chooses to immoralize this conflict.