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KYM Pony General V: We Just Don't Know What Went Wrong

Last posted Jul 01, 2012 at 04:43PM EDT. Added Feb 19, 2012 at 11:27PM EST
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@Twins

That'd be Flitter, from Hurricane Fluttershy. She and Cloud Chaser seem to be reasonably popular, and not without good reason.

They are pretty cute.

*cough

Anyway!




@Red eyes… again

Vinyl's eyes are definitely magenta, and while some artists still use the old color, many artists have embraced the new. I think she looks cool either way. My evidence:

However, one thing I did realize recently is that the argument some have offered as to why the designers made her eyes something other than red is a little flawed, that argument being that red eyes somehow make her look demonic. They seem to have forgotten this fine fellow:



Of course, if someone was going to take offense at Snowflake here, the color of his eyes would probably not be the first thing that sprang to mind…

Last edited Apr 29, 2012 at 04:19AM EDT

null wrote:

Ohey, look what I found.

True or not true? DISCUSS.

Well we do start to forgive each other and end up giving each other hugs after shit storms, last I checked. Or am I imagining all of that in my head? I do think we follow the show and learn enough from it not be at least as much of ass holes compared to the rest of the internet.
However, I do love you all so much! (No homo).

An here is a guilt trip for yeah!:

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Ric Te$l@ wrote:

Well we do start to forgive each other and end up giving each other hugs after shit storms, last I checked. Or am I imagining all of that in my head? I do think we follow the show and learn enough from it not be at least as much of ass holes compared to the rest of the internet.
However, I do love you all so much! (No homo).

An here is a guilt trip for yeah!:

You people start all your shitstorms without me, so I hate all of you.

Just kidding, I'm left with no choice but to love.

null wrote:

Ohey, look what I found.

True or not true? DISCUSS.

See this is why I hate My Little Brony. Their content is 50% talking about how loving the fandom is and 50% pointing out the most obvious things with reaction images and rage faces. Original content my plot.

Fridge wrote:

See this is why I hate My Little Brony. Their content is 50% talking about how loving the fandom is and 50% pointing out the most obvious things with reaction images and rage faces. Original content my plot.

It's memebase. What do you expect?

WE ARE SUPERIOR MEME WEBSITE!

null wrote:

Ohey, look what I found.

True or not true? DISCUSS.

Hmm, I'd say we( as in kym bronies) are pretty easy going for the most part. But as a whole, I don't know.

20% Cooler than Ice Rinsankajugin wrote:

Holy crap, my 20-year-old sis is already on episode 3 and I didn't even have to convince her otherwise. I think I might shed a tear of joy.

So she's now your pega-SIS?

Sunhammer wrote:


………yes. Do whatever you want to, I don't care anymore.

Did she ever reveal a long snake like tongue during the episode?

Or is it just a fan thing?

burning_phoneix wrote:

It's memebase. What do you expect?

WE ARE SUPERIOR MEME WEBSITE!

You realize we're in the same family as them, right?

We also have very different aims. Know Your Meme researches and catalogs internet memes, while Memebase and its children sites are for content creation and reposting. In my early days here, I used to look to them to see if memes were developing and spreading. When they decided to start capitalizing on memetic trends such as the advice animal craze, even trying to force their own in-house created memes, I realized that they weren't the reliable study ground I thought them to be, and turned to different sources. All this was before I became a brony. Since then, I think Austin and his fellow Memebase staffers have done a good enough job of managing their site; part of this was catering to specific interests rather than specific trends. Having a whole site dedicated to Rage comics is sure to contribute to its demise as a trend, while a site such as Fandom Base has an indefinite lifespan. Basically, Memebase isn't as bad as you make them out to be.

Besides, I think we can all agree that 9gag and Funnyjunk are shit tier.

So, I was thinking while I was gone for the weekend…

Since Chrysalis disguised as Cadence said that Pinkie's party would be for a six year-old, does that confirm that ponies age differently than ponies on Earth? I mean, after all, a six year-old pony on Earth is an adult, pretty much. So, if that's the case, there would technically be no need to add the 'six year-old' adjective to the party, if ponies aged the same on Equestria.

It's clear that Chrysalis was intending it to be an insult, so she was probably referring to the games and party as being 'kiddy', so it's safe to assume that six year-olds are children in Equestria. So, if that were the case, then ponies in Equestria probably have human life-spans.

Thoughts?

Dac wrote:

Hmm, I'd say we( as in kym bronies) are pretty easy going for the most part. But as a whole, I don't know.

I believe that on average, bronies are indeed more caring and compassionate than others, but posting images like that has the potential to bring out the cynic in a person…

Still, the reason for the size of the fandom isn't just the quality of the show or its meme status; it's also the fact that when you contribute to the community in any positive way, you tend to get a lot of support. There are folks who record brony music, for example, without properly researching things like what a pop filter is, or how to perform audio mastering. Most of the time, people on YouTube would tear those guys apart, but bronies come alongside them and offer them advice and encouragement.

Like I said, that's on average. There are always the jerks lurking around any fandom, but I think we have fewer of those than is typical.

And, since we're mentioning memebase, I'd say that this describes the brony community in many ways:

Notice? Mass transformation into the embodiment of loyalty from parasitic evil creatures.

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@Explosive Lasers
Hmmm. Never thought about it before. I assume that they have a slightly shorter lifespan (probably on average 50 to 70 years), so a six year old would still be a child.
Again, its all up to the creators. I'm sure they'll give us a canon aging chart some time…

@millenial Dan
I don't think bronies are kinder and more compassionate than others. I'm not being a cynic ethier, I just don't think that we should consider ourselves better than others. The only generalization I can make about bronies is that bronies like ponies.

Dac wrote:

@millenial Dan
I don't think bronies are kinder and more compassionate than others. I'm not being a cynic ethier, I just don't think that we should consider ourselves better than others. The only generalization I can make about bronies is that bronies like ponies.

I never used the word "better", as that is extremely subjective and vague. However, there was a study done that supports my statement. I'll see if I can find it.

EDIT:

Here it is. If you don't want to see the whole thing, here's the part I'm talking about:

A higher number of asterisks indicates greater statistical difference.

No doubt, someone will try to find some way of discrediting these results, but my opinion is that they are basically accurate.

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@Millenial Dan
I don't know really how to categorize all of the bronies. All I know is that the community and the show dug me out of a deep world of s^^^. My grandfather who I grew up knowing had just passed away, and I was depressed. So depressed, I was becoming a monster of a being, and honestly, a living wreck. Upon the realization, I tried to find some other venue, and hoped to God that he would provide something that could make me feel better.
I guess Bronies and MLP were his answer, because pretty soon, I started taking interest when I noticed it on YouTube. Pretty soon I was watching the show, and now, I'm a brony!
So I'd say this fandom does help drag people like me out of bad places and helps us get back on our feet.
Ahhh, personal stories…

Millennial Dan wrote:

I never used the word "better", as that is extremely subjective and vague. However, there was a study done that supports my statement. I'll see if I can find it.

EDIT:

Here it is. If you don't want to see the whole thing, here's the part I'm talking about:

A higher number of asterisks indicates greater statistical difference.

No doubt, someone will try to find some way of discrediting these results, but my opinion is that they are basically accurate.

You didnt say better, but I think we can all agree that being more caring and compasionate does make one a better person. About the study, look for it. I want to see who did it.

Dac wrote:

You didnt say better, but I think we can all agree that being more caring and compasionate does make one a better person. About the study, look for it. I want to see who did it.

It was on EQD a few-ish months back. The survey was done by a psychiatrist named Dr. Patrick Edwards and a neuropsychologist named Dr. Marsha Redden, so at least the people doing it sound legit enough. As for the results I'm not sure. Thanks Millenial, I didn't realize they had posted the results. I participated, which makes at least my answers legit.

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Millennial Dan wrote:

I never used the word "better", as that is extremely subjective and vague. However, there was a study done that supports my statement. I'll see if I can find it.

EDIT:

Here it is. If you don't want to see the whole thing, here's the part I'm talking about:

A higher number of asterisks indicates greater statistical difference.

No doubt, someone will try to find some way of discrediting these results, but my opinion is that they are basically accurate.

I'm nearly positive that it is the Brony Study.

If you cite is as evidence then I'll show you why it isn't the highest quality of surveys, why the results lack external reliability, and why the conclusions reached are are not probably correct. (However, I will grant that this round of conclusions aren't nearly as biased as the previous round's.)

Also, the questionnaire itself was that of a clinical psychologist. In determining whether or not we are nicer as a community or anything, I'd feel as if that is best left to a sociologist or a social psychologist. A clinical psychologist (as the two running the study are) has a different bent in how they approach their respondents. I'm not saying they don't know their stuff, but they've made some really poor conclusions before.

And being involved in research myself in the social sciences, I can tell you that my assignments often involve finding fault in methodology, conclusions, or theoretical background (something completely missing from the first part of the study and lacking in the second.)


tl;dr It's as good as any other piece of evidence you could find, but it does have its flaws.

Verbose wrote:

I'm nearly positive that it is the Brony Study.

If you cite is as evidence then I'll show you why it isn't the highest quality of surveys, why the results lack external reliability, and why the conclusions reached are are not probably correct. (However, I will grant that this round of conclusions aren't nearly as biased as the previous round's.)

Also, the questionnaire itself was that of a clinical psychologist. In determining whether or not we are nicer as a community or anything, I'd feel as if that is best left to a sociologist or a social psychologist. A clinical psychologist (as the two running the study are) has a different bent in how they approach their respondents. I'm not saying they don't know their stuff, but they've made some really poor conclusions before.

And being involved in research myself in the social sciences, I can tell you that my assignments often involve finding fault in methodology, conclusions, or theoretical background (something completely missing from the first part of the study and lacking in the second.)


tl;dr It's as good as any other piece of evidence you could find, but it does have its flaws.

Heh, I'm a prophet. It's okay though, those are just my views, and I just wanted to show that they weren't completely unfounded.

Millennial Dan wrote:

Heh, I'm a prophet. It's okay though, those are just my views, and I just wanted to show that they weren't completely unfounded.

No, they are not unfounded. After reading these results, I think they went into a lot more effort in clarifying their results this time around. I do not feel ashamed to share institutions with one of them now.

I will say though that I'd believe a lot of the respondents come from Equestria Daily, because that's where I saw most of the recruitment done. I don't know if they went into other sites with significant numbers of broneis (bringing that spelling back now), many of which do not visit Equestria Daily (e.g., Ponibooru, FIMchan, /mlp/). I know a lot of news is stuff I have to present here, because at one point, most of you didn't frequent Equestria Daily very often. If many other smaller subcommunities of broneis are the same way, then their sample probably wasn't representative of the brony community on the whole. I know that many users on Ponibooru hate EqD and their commenters, because they see them as being overly concerned with morals and have already made a point to remove anonymous posting to prevent/reduce trolling.
 
Given that reason for disliking EqD (which is tied to how nice we are as a community,) I'd say that you'd have entirely different results from Ponibooru, FIMchan, and paheal, some dA's, some tumblr circles, and maybe /mlp/ (I haven't been there recently to know how they feel about various matters of morality, kindness, or anything.)

So I'd say that would be some evidence that this particular portion of bronydom (to "steal" a term from opspe who stole from me first but PATENTS AND SH!T) is nicer than non-bronies. But even in that, I'm sure subjectively "nice" can be twisted by using objective measurements to yield insignificant results.

badsitrep wrote:

Anyone read any pony trollfics that are as lulz inducing as "Half-Life: Full Life Consequences"?

I'm considering writing one for sh!ts and giggles.

http://www.fimfiction.net/user/Bill%20O'Reilly (How do links I make links?)

My personal favorite writer. If you frequent FiMFiction you might know him since he's had a bit of his stuff featured. But it's all I've got in the way of trollfics.

ExudesAffluence wrote:

http://www.fimfiction.net/user/Bill%20O'Reilly (How do links I make links?)

My personal favorite writer. If you frequent FiMFiction you might know him since he's had a bit of his stuff featured. But it's all I've got in the way of trollfics.

I tried ur link.

All I got was Pinkie Pie.

badsitrep wrote:

I tried ur link.

All I got was Pinkie Pie.

Well, at least it's an excuse to look at Pinkie Pie. Seeing as I only feign an understanding of computer and Internet I jsut dont know what went rong and i jsut dont no what to do

His name is Bill O'Reilly. I cannot help you further your quest for trollfics.

Also, I don't think Full Consequences was a trollfic. I think that was legit.

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Verbose wrote:

No, they are not unfounded. After reading these results, I think they went into a lot more effort in clarifying their results this time around. I do not feel ashamed to share institutions with one of them now.

I will say though that I'd believe a lot of the respondents come from Equestria Daily, because that's where I saw most of the recruitment done. I don't know if they went into other sites with significant numbers of broneis (bringing that spelling back now), many of which do not visit Equestria Daily (e.g., Ponibooru, FIMchan, /mlp/). I know a lot of news is stuff I have to present here, because at one point, most of you didn't frequent Equestria Daily very often. If many other smaller subcommunities of broneis are the same way, then their sample probably wasn't representative of the brony community on the whole. I know that many users on Ponibooru hate EqD and their commenters, because they see them as being overly concerned with morals and have already made a point to remove anonymous posting to prevent/reduce trolling.
 
Given that reason for disliking EqD (which is tied to how nice we are as a community,) I'd say that you'd have entirely different results from Ponibooru, FIMchan, and paheal, some dA's, some tumblr circles, and maybe /mlp/ (I haven't been there recently to know how they feel about various matters of morality, kindness, or anything.)

So I'd say that would be some evidence that this particular portion of bronydom (to "steal" a term from opspe who stole from me first but PATENTS AND SH!T) is nicer than non-bronies. But even in that, I'm sure subjectively "nice" can be twisted by using objective measurements to yield insignificant results.

The survey does have its margins of error, as do any surveys in general. However, statistically speaking, the Brony Study is probably accurate, if not for the whole fandom, for Equestria Daily. People do tend to be rather truthful in anonymous surveys like these.

I kind of doubt the non-brony portion of the study though, because why would a non-brony take that quiz in the first place? The comparison from the survey results seems iffy, but makes sense.

Avoiding subjective terms like "better" and "nicer", I do believe that bronies are, on average, more emotional and compassionate toward others. Take that as you will.

@Verbose

Very interesting, I always appreciate your detailed perspective. Being a frequenter of EqD and some other sites myself, I understand how different the various groups can be. That is certainly a good thing to keep in mind when constructing a study of such a massive fandom.


@ExudesAffluence

You're welcome. Interesting that you took the study, I know some others who did as well, though I did not.


@Twins

Indeed.


Now, I heard someone likes pony mechs…

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PopperFett the Mandalore wrote:

@Dr. Greg
What da fuq…

Anyway, not much.

@Everyone else
My first fic in the series is awaiting approval. It should be up soon.
I want to extend a very, very greatful thanks to Gigatoast for his image.

Is this your Red Dawn one? Where you at on FiMFic?

Edit response to question below since I don't feel like double posting –
I await.

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ExudesAffluence wrote:

Is this your Red Dawn one? Where you at on FiMFic?

Edit response to question below since I don't feel like double posting –
I await.

No sorry. Its the pre-story about Celestia.
Trust me, Red Dawn is not gonna be ready for a while. Which is why I'm starting to write it now.
My name is We'll_Never_Know. Got a Hind for an avatar (that's my standard)

BTW, this one's open to critique. I want to know what I should work on to make Lunar Dawn the best it can be!

Last edited Apr 29, 2012 at 09:53PM EDT

ExudesAffluence wrote:

@deadpool

Are you kidding me? I do that when I'm sober.

You blackout on tables for long enough for people to draw on you? Sober? You gotta get that checked out bro! Lol

I almost forgot to post this here. This is my first attempt at a song that I made for a MIDI remix assignment for college.

I'm reasonably happy with it, but I'm currently retooling it to give it a bit more personal touch. I downloaded the MIDI tracks from someone on My Little Remix and used a lot of Apple Loops, so I'm not fully satisfied with it in terms of originality.

Skeletor-sm

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