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That's the same double standard people pointed out with Trixie, only it's a little less relevant of a comparison since Chrysalis can sing, thus making her instantly lovable.

In other news, anyone else get this PM?

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Prepare yourselves for a rant.

Oh, and this isn't even the first case of it. Nor the second.

Nor the third.

You know Nightmare Moon? The alicorn that tried to cast the world into eternal darkness?

Yeah, the alicorn that stopped her is the bad guy.

Gilda? The griffin that bullied Fluttershy, made her cry, insulted a town, acted rude and shouted at several ponies, and acted nasty to Pinkie Pie?

Misunderstood good guy that deserves redemption.

Trixie? You can see where I'm going with this… She insulted a town, bragged, boasted, lied, cheated, hurt Twilight's friends (if slightly), acted rude, etc.

Most loved character on EQD. No goddamn contest.

And then we have Blueblood. Yes, Blueblood. Where to begin…

He acted like a stuck-up douchebag. As is expected by somebody who was born into royalty, and was probably raised to be… y'know… a stuck-up douchebag.

For fuck's sake, Rarity acts a bit like Blueblood a lot of the time. Remember 'A Dog and Pony Show'? She weaponized stuck-up douchebag-iness.

And, you know what the fandom did with Blueblood?

He's the Anti-Christ, pretty much.

We turned him into Satan's physical manifestation on Equestria?

Now, let's see what differences, besides being less evil/rude than them, he has with the others.

Pony? Trixie's a pony, and NMM could be considered one.
Unicorn? Trixie's a unicorn.
Conflict with the Mane Six? Ha. Ha. Who are we talking about again?
Inflicting pain? Figure Rarity can take a cake, considering she kicked a manticore in the face.

So… What other differences are there?

Oh, yeah.

He has a dick.

If that isn't sexism, then fuck logic.

Sometimes bronies aren't the smartest bunch around…

/rant

Them mares just jelly of our dicks.

Its easy. I dig true evil. Chrysallis has a gorgeous character design. Blueblood… meh.
Mind you, much of this fandom is MALE (no offense females). So when a female super-villainess comes up to the scene, we adore her. We did that with Nightmare Moon and Luna.
Meanwhile, Blueblood was a douche. Plus, his character was less-than-evil.
It was also just a matter of how badass the character was, really. Chrysallis was one mean queen with a talent for pwn. Her singing, her seducing character, and everything else about her, makes her ripe for adoring. Blueblood had little of these traits.
So yeah, don't rage; its just logic here.

But…you also noted that the Alicorn that stopped Nightmare Moon is the bad guy (Celestia) like Blue Blood is the bad guy and Celestia doesn't have a dick.

Oh wait…..they're both white…

BRONEIS ARE RACIST AGAINST WHITE PEOPLE!

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I was citing the ever-present Tyrant Celestia deal.

Because, even though Equestria was nearly destroyed by NMM, stopping her is an act of a tyrant.

And, hell, even if Celestia was a bad guy, she'd still probably be more loved than Blueblood? Evidence?

GODDAMN EVERY FEMALE 'BAD GUY'!

NMM, Trixie, Gilda, Chrysalis, Diamond Tiara, etc. They're all loved FAR more than Blueblood, who's usually the target of jokes and shit in the fandom.

I mean, it'd be okay with me, if it weren't so fucking obvious that it's the gender deal.

And don't say "Oh, he wasn't super-evil, so nobody likes him." Fuck you.

No, seriously. Fuck you.

By your logic, EQD shouldn't worship Trixie as the goddamn Queen of Ponies. Because she wasn't super-evil. I've met fucking 7th graders that are more malevolent than Trixie.

I've met 3rd graders more malevolent than Blueblood, however.

So, our only real villains are Discord and Nightmare Moon. They're both loved, instead of the God of Chaos and Disharmony being treated as an actual threat…

Because he IS nearly the equivalent of the anti-Christ for Equestria. A world in which petty theft of slippers warrants a squad of people hunting your ass down.

So, we have a few bad guys: The bully, the boastful show-off, the guy that thinks he's better than you (ei: everybody on the internet), the love-devouring queen of parasitic dopplegangers, the queen of darkness that nearly ended Equestria, and the god of chaos.

The nicest character in that list is the most hated.

FUCK LOGIC! FUCKING BRONIES, MAN!

No, its not necessary. I can honestly say I am disgusted at how self-entitled people can be at times. No, they don't owe you red eyes, they certainly didn't have to even show you them. But, every fanbase has their complainers, and I'm relieved that none of them occupy our little community.

@The Blueblood/Chrysalis pic
I've met both of them. Trust me, Blueblood deserves the reaction he's getting. Chrysalis, on the other hoof, needs the love. Once you get past the rough exterior, she's kind of (How do I say this without sounding mean….)…….incomplete, for lack of a better word. So yeah, Blueblood has no excuse for how he acted, while the bitchy, sadistic personality of Chrysalis is a self-defense mechanism for her.

@Lasers
Yes, I made a mistake with the whole "eternal night" thing. Yes, I'm portrayed as the misunderstood younger sister. But I'm willing to acknowledge that I messed up. Big time. Now, can't we all just move past what I did and be friends now? I'm seriously tired of everyone thinking I'm evil. I may have messed up, but I'm not evil…..

"Don't Spycheck Cadence, they said. You'll burn royalty, they said……"

Well, to be fair, he is only a kid there and is seeing his first vagina ( his moms) and his baby sister is being pushed through it. I cant imagine anyone not freaking out at having to film that.

Guys! I can art too!

Am I the only one keeping up with the Stanley Cup?

I'M POSTING CUTE CHRYSALIS AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME!!!

Seems like a pony toke a liking to my style.

TO ALL WHO IS JELLY!:

Here goes the weird arrow thingy, brace yourselves…

>Implying Discord is female

(I can link you to hundred different "Discord is just misunderstood" Fan-created images and fics and in this case vids too.)

>implying that dat lip-bite and ^_^ face combined with the tsundere hair-style isn't totally cute

(Yes she was as canonically cute as she was canonicaly SCARY)

>Implying the fandom didn't redeem Blueblood many times over
(also read the Prince and the Work-horse)

It's not just cuteness, or gender…
Enjoyable characters are redeemed , and their redemption scales with their enjoyability , Thus Nightmare Moon is rarely redeemed (It's Luna that's really clung to, but that's another subject), and same thing for Gilda (SHE MADE FLUTTERSHY CRY! >:[ but she's redeemed at higher rate than NMM but lower than everyone else)
While Chrysalis (SHE SINGS!), Discord (AWESOME ANTICS and EPIC TROLLING) Trixie (Credit where it's due, she makes a good showmare. even when failing. As for EqD's thing, it just because of one person that she became the site's mascot.) are the misunderstood heroes.
As you can tell, Blueblood was highly un-enjoyable, in all his appearances. (yet he was redeemed, perhaps at the same rate as Nightmare Moon)

At any rate, long as the fandom keeps making stuff like this:

Then I'm sure we are all winners.

So no.
Bronies may not be the smartest bunch about, but they don't think with their dicks, especially considering the fact that the show's characters ARE COLORFUL TALKING ANIMALS!.

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Am I the only one keeping up with the Stanley Cup?

Black puck getting knocked around by a bunch of white guys.

Pass.

As for burning_phoneix and Explosive Lasers, I think you both have a point. There are those who are very sensitive to some issues when there may not be an issue. However, I do believe that the reason why the villains Chrysalis, NMM, and Trixie are so loved is because they are females.

Keep in mind that Chrsalis, NMM, and Trixie were made out to be characters that had a little more depth than Blueblood. They were more "love to hate" sort of villains. Blueblood's only reason for being stuck up was to be a disappointment to Rarity. He couldn't have any redeeming traits.
 
In either case, karmas to both of your points and counters.

@X-Singular:

Yeah, I was mostly just ranting for shits 'n' giggles, but that does kind of fit my views of the whole deal to some extent. I know people have preferences and all, and I always like the good guys more, but whatever.

But, either way, people will make stuff they want to, regardless. It just so happens that people like the female characters more, for whatever reason. So, they'll get more redemption to fit peoples' thoughts on subjects and their opinions of the characters, and all that jazz.

Blueblood just gets the short end of the stick because, while not being evil (kind of just being a bit of a jerk), he also wasn't good. And he wasn't the 'IRON WILL WANTS HIS MONEY' type of 'not evil but not good', he was just… stuck-up.

Which, despite being a very, very common personality trait on the internet, is the most hated personality trait on the internet. Arrogance is hated more than any other on this series of tubes.

I don't think we can generalize that much.

Discord is male, yet he is loved by the fandom far more than Celestia, who is portrayed as a tyrannically rapist/autocrat that would make Vlad the Impaler proud.

Look at it this way, only Blueblood is hated this much: Iron Will and The Flim Flam Brothers are generally loved, Iron Will being seen as a Saxton Hale type macho character and the Flim Flam Brothers as affectionate swindler types (Ie, Cave Johnson, That damn Fox from Animal Crossing)

The real reason I believe that Blue Blood is so hated is simply this: He had almost no time for any other character trait to develop.

Think about it, Chrysalis, Trixie,Gilda, Flim and Flam, Discord…etc had one or more episodes where they shined.

Blueblood? Like 3 or 4 minutes and barely 2 or 3 lines in the season finale.

This left a gaping hole which the fandom filled and usually the first one to get popular sticks (Fuck you Jon JosecO…FFFFFFFFFUCK YOUUUUUUUUU)

It's not just us bronies. Discrimination against males is all too prevalent and socially acceptable in our modern society. It's everywhere. In movies, usually men are the idiots, interested only in beer and sex. It's perfectly fine to hit guys (apparently), but lay a finger on a girl? Hell no.

Not to say females aren't stereotyped as well though. There is usually only one token female character, who nearly always serves as a love interest to the main character, and is there for the sake of balance. She generally has no distinct personality at all, and is merely a prize for the hero to take at the end of his quest to save humanity (or something).
(oh lordy that was rather generalizing and off topic)

But yeah, guys do have it worse, and it's rather sad that no one acknowledges this for what it is: sexism at its finest.

I blame the media for being so stereotypical and brainwashing us all.

And shame on you bronies for allowing yourselves to be brainwashed.

@Unknown:
Yeah, no. Prince Blueblood has a sexalicious design.

@Nightmare Moon:
How can you idly stand there and justify only Chrysalis's behavior, but not Blueblood's? Blueblood has clearly been indoctrinated by the high class society of Canterlot to look down upon others lower than him. It's not his fault. For Chrysalis, we have nothing on her background, besides her being an evil leader of ponylike creatures who want to take over Equestria.

I don't think that sexism is the only factor, but you can't deny there is a positive correlation between being a female character and being portrayed positively by the fandom.

I see some ranting in here regarding Blueblood and why he gets a lot of sour hatred while worse characters are praised.

Some people say sexism, some people say anti-elitism, some people say color and then chalk it all up to Fanon hypocrisy…but frankly, none of that makes any sense to me at all. Instead all those claims only seem to be looking at the surface but don't approach the deeper reasons

Let me tell you how I interpret the treatment of Blueblood:

For starters consider how the characters are used and how that usage impacts the reception that the character gets.

There isn't much you can say about Blueblood. He is introduced as a regular stuck-up rich guy stereotype and that's about the extent of his entire character.

Yes Discord, Moon and Trixie were introduced as mere villians for you to boo at, but at least they were developed characters. You can say a lot about most of the MLP villains, their motives, intentions, character traits, background and behavior. Blueblood…not so much.

It seems that Blueblood was introduced into the show not as a character but simply as an object to disapprove of. And disapprove of Blueblood, the Fanon did.

The Fanon cannot really build on a character like that easily, it's easier to just reject it

Plus if I recall our previous discussion on this correctly; there are also the points that we have less trouble relating to comical evil villains than we do with rich snobs. We can understand being evil as it is such a common subject in every story, we know what drives characters to be evil. But unless any of us happen to be millionaires, we don't understand what it is like to be so rich and wealthy that your narcissism shoots through the roof.

Lastly there's the even more important point of how interesting the character is. Have you noticed a correlation between how interesting a character is and how much fan fare it gets?

Discord is an interesting character, he's made of different body parts and warps physics. Nightmare Moon was an interesting character, she controls the night and had a vengeful feud with her sister. Even Trixie was an interesting character: she's a magician with a superiority complex and speaks about herself in the 3rd person

But Blueblood? Just a "rich snob". He's just not that interesting and of course the Fanon will care for that character less.

The result: We understand characters like Chrysalis, Discord, Trixie and Gilda. We can relate to them and their evil ways, we can build on those characters and develop them because it's interesting and fun to do so. But Blueblood doesn't get that same treatment because he is boring and unrelatable. Not so much because of gender or color or anything else, or at least not likely.

Any of this making sense?

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@Phoneix

Thank you, that's the sort of thing I am getting at. Bluebloods presentation in the show just doesn't compare to how other villains are presented so obviously we are going to appreciate the character less.

@Regarding Chrysalis fanart

Would Chrysalis get all the fanart she did if she was male? Absolutely. She's the closest thing to Zerg/Tyrannid this show has ever gotten and we have plenty of Starcraft/Warhammer fans in this fandom who couldn't resist.

Would we still have the cute/sexy fanart? Probably not, or at least less of that. So I agree there would be less fanart but my point is that it would still be there. Notice how much fanart is driven by her concept of being a hive queen for a swarm of shapeshifting monsters. That's not gender specific.

Ah, yes. The unabashed factitude of Twins.

Reminds me of the unhinged racism of old people… Except this is both funny AND socially acceptable.

As for her being male…

Probably not. The whole reason I think she's so popular is because bronies can make anything look adorable, and interpret anything in the show as adorable. While King Metamorphosis or whatever would still be loved more than Blueblood for the simple fact that he is undoubtedly a villain, he still wouldn't be as popular as Chrysalis.

Discord is the one exception to this prevalent rule, it seems. Flim, Flam, and Iron Will are exceptions, sure, but imagine if they were female.

[Twilight Zone] Imagine, if you will, a My Little Pony, in which every character's gender was reversed. Would Blueblood still be hated? Would Discord be loved even more? What about the Mane Six? Or Celestia? What about the background ponies? What about shipping, as well? Do you believe that, if the world was entirely gender-bended, that there would be as much shipping between the Mane Six as there is? [/Twilight Zone]

That was a serious question. Despite what anybody might say, gender always plays a subconscious role in our minds, for good reason. Do you think our opinions on characters would differ greatly if they were the opposite genders?

That does make sense actually. Good old BSOD, always having an interesting and meaningful new viewpoint to add to the discussion.

Blueblood was extremely undeveloped, yes, and was no different than any other rich, stuck up person in other shows. I really wanted to like him, but I couldn't, mainly because the show writers didn't put anything interesting about him besides his dashing good looks.

I have a feeling if he was Princess Blueblood, he would get a lot more attention.

And coincidentally, we have canon evidence on this. Gilda. She's a mean character, inside and out. She's stuck up, and thinks Rainbow's other friends aren't good enough for her. She has no distinct personality of her own. She got rejected by Rainbow Dash at the end of the episode, just like Rarity rejected Blueblood.

Any yet, she is portrayed in a much more positive light than Blueblood.

Chrysalis, Discord and Nightmare Moon are developed, and even Trixie and the Flim Flam Brothers are to some extent. You can't pull them into the argument and act like their examples for either side. Because they are completely different cases.

Now that I go back to my previous post, I realize the TL;DR had nothing to do with ponies, and was just a general rant on how the media is stereotypical and shallow.

@Twins and Lasers on the topic if genders were reversed

Well, to tell you the truth, the female characters of the show is probably one of the things that attracted us to it. The cast, mixed with the epic things we know and love from the show, brews for something great. Sort of like PPG; all three main characters were female, but the show was still epic because of the way it was written and how the characters were used.
A largely male cast wouldn't have made the show as enjoyable, I think. So gender roles do play an important part in our fandom and why we like the show.
@Lasers
I agree with the whole villain thing. Discord, Nightmare Moon, and Chrysallis were all dynamic characters, with deliciously evil traits. Blueblood was just a stuck-up snob.
I think as for the internet, most of the arrogance displayed is rather for show and jokingly rather than true arrogance. When real arrogance is displayed in public, most of the guys who say those arrogant things online are like "that's not cool bro".

Moar Chrysallis:.

@Explosive.

Check out the R64 fanart for the answer to that question.

Also I forgot to point out that if Crysalis was Male. We would just R64 him, then make lots of cute/sexy fanart and shipping.

Case in point: R64 Discord

As you are obviously the first person in excistence to come up with a half-cyborg pony.

People really like Chrysalis because:
Of that form-change thing.
Also look at those seductive eyes

*Rule 63

Result: Eris

@Random:

HA!

I laugh at that futile attempt.

PREPARE YOURSELF!

OH YES, I WENT THERE!

I POSTED R63 FLIM AND FLAM!

…I must be on that part of KYM again…

Before this topic gets out of hand…

You're welcome.

So far, regarding the content of this page…

>MFW:

@Explosive Lasers

Rule 63 Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash.

I'm just letting you know that I fucking love this page.
Now to go look for R63 versions of everypony!

@RandomMan

All this R63 talk and pics are messing with my mind

So to sum up what we've just talked about
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she's a great and relatable character, who can be seen with a sensitive side (at least according to Nightmare). Her seductive looks and her power make her one of our favorites. She's also very gorgeous to look at, IMO.

- Blueblood is simply an arrogant SOB. He lacks evil, and also is not nearly as menacing a character or dynamic to be par with Nightmare Moon, Discord, or Chrysallis.

-MLP would be different if R63'd, but it is up to opinion whether or not one will watch it.

-MLP R63 can be very strange for some, hawt for others, and yet can also to Explosive Lasers jizzing in his pants.

oh, and Nightmare, a favor please. If you really are talking to Chrysallis, send my apologies for my war with Pyro a few pages back. I've pretty much spammed my love of her across this forum, so, yeah.

@RandomMan's last post:

My face has just to change.

BRING UPON ME THE STORMS OF R63!

Edit: About whether or not Chrysalis is 'beautiful' is subjective. I, as a heterosexual male, think Blueblood would hold more beauty from a non-biased standpoint. Mainly do to symmetry, lack of holes, and not being a monster bent on devouring your emotions.

It's an opinion, and one that will hinge very heavily on your sexuality. I differ on you in this regard, as I do not find her nearly as beautiful as the other ponies, even the stallions. Now, I'm not speaking of sexual beauty, of course, which might be another story entirely.

As for her being seductive, we've seen little to suggest it, beyond her having her eyes half-closed (ei: something I do on a daily basis) or biting her lip (ei: something I do on a daily basis). If that is enough to be considered seductive, than Fluttershy puts succubi to shame.

Oh, oh god…
Someone remind me to turn safe search on when looking through google for R63 of ponies…
Anyway, I came up with this.

Well, there goes the universe.

On the topic of R63:

For those interested, there is a rather good fic out there by the name of On A Cross And Arrow all about R63.

What? It was only a matter of time. If I didn't mention it, Algernon would have whilst giddy-ing like a school girl.

Much like my reaction to the above image.

Joe Amethyst said:

Someone remind me to turn safe search on when looking through google for R63 of ponies…

Hey, you should turn safe search on when looking through google for R63 of ponies.

Also, I've yet to find any King Chrysalis. The one character that hasn't changed genders is the one that could canonically pull it off.
Well, other than Discord, I guess. I mean, he was a bunch of butterflies… he could surely pull it off.

Fake edit:
HA. PULL IT OFF. THAT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE A PUN BUT IT IS AND THAT IS JUST SILLY!

Real edit:
Posting cool new Chrysalis fanart. Haven't seen it on here or EQD yet so I'm sharing it (regardless of gender).

No, but seriously, has anyone else gotten this weird message in their PM box?

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Am I the only one? Or is this just random spam?

Explosive Lasers wrote:

Discord is the one exception to this prevalent rule, it seems. Flim, Flam, and Iron Will are exceptions, sure, but imagine if they were female.

Main male antagonists:
Discord
Flim
Flam
Iron Will
Diamond Dogs (3)
Dragons: Red, Green and the three bully dragons Spike hung out with.
Blue Blood

When you have 92% of that list as "exceptions"….then they're not exceptions, they're the rule.

There is no sexual bias in the fanon. Stop saying that.

EDIT:

No, Gigatoast. I haven't received any weird messages in my inbox. Seems oddly tailored to KYM tho.

@Gigatoast

I've already contacted the bunnies in pimp suits about that.

I also posted such an instance in the sick nasty thread of sicknastiness. She gone.

Celebratory ponu for finishing the longer of two (and a third) papers due by Friday.

<img src="http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/f4ac74403987f4baec9525ef5dc1808d/120908%20-%20artist%3Ayukihyo%20pretty%20rarity.png" height="600" / >

I'm sure many of you have seen this already, but in case you haven't…

Edit: Oh and, Discord is best Rule 63'd.

@Verbose

Congratulations, well done!

@Sexual Bias

I also disagree that such a prejudice exists, for the most part. You all have discussed this in detail from the perspective of the fandom, so once again I'm just going to talk about my own view of these characters.

• Chrysalis is a character that appeals to me for many reasons, such as her edginess, her evilness, her horde of minions, her hypnotic powers, etc. She showed a great deal of personality, particularly while impersonating Cadance in her singing role.
  
  
• I never cared one way or the other about Trixie or Blueblood, because they were both simple "villains" who filled the roles they were given (a boastful liar and snobbish jerk). The fandom, however, decided to paint Trixie as some kind of sympathetic softy, which is way ooc if we're being real. I have also seen stories depicting Blueblood as a decent guy on occasion.
  
  
• Flim and Flam aren't really even villains, just bad business ponies.
  
  
• Discord is Q, ponified. Need I go on?
  
  
• Iron Will is like a big mashup of Hercule Satan, Johnny Bravo, Chuck Norris, and Billy Mays.Totally awesome, and yet I hate him for turning Fluttershy into a monster. So confused…
  
  
• As for Gilda, my own feelings toward her are nicely summarized by her own propaganda:
  
  
  
  I'm sorry, but she's just not that likeable. It occurs to me that not a single antagonist has gone without some kind of emotional Freudian excuse backstory, but I think with Gilda in particular, that's just nonsense. She really is just a jerk. End of story.
  
  
• Nightmare Moon is fascinating to me because of Luna. Her split personality and dual role as both villain and emotionally uncertain little sister cause an interesting tension. Besides, Luna is best pony, so there you go.
  
  
• Teen dragons: amusing and dangerous. I'm mostly indifferent to them.

• Adult dragons: even more amusing and dangerous. I like how that green one was intent on killing Spike and Twilight. That's exactly how a dragon should act.
  
  That's about it for me. I'd say my like/dislike toward these characters is pretty evenly split along gender lines.

@Saporian

I did, pretty intense.

With glasses, don't forget that!

Muffinator wrote:

On the topic of R63:
For those interested, there is a rather good fic out there by the name of On A Cross And Arrow all about R63.

What? It was only a matter of time. If I didn’t mention it, Algernon would have whilst giddy-ing like a school girl.

…

Must… resist… urge…

Darnit, you guys know me far too well.

On the topic of that fic, think about this: The fandom has a habit of downvoting fics simply for having shipping or grimdark in them. Sometimes Seth makes a post saying 'ignore the bad rating', because a good fic is given a shitty rating for daring to be a little controversial. This one has R63 and shipping between the mane cast and the R63'd versions of the mane cast. I bet that sounds ridiculously messed up, and yet it still got a 6 star rating. That means it's pretty damn good.

On the topic of Blueblood hate:

There seems to be this idea that Blueblood never gets any love. However, I've read a few fics that attempt to redeem him, including The Best Night Ever that Singular linked to earlier, and To be a Better Stallion. There also used to be an ask-blueblood Tumblr blog that had loads of fans. He's not universally despised, as some people here seem to think. If anything, I'd say that Gilda is hated more. She probably has more fans than Blueblood, but those who hate her seem to hate her a lot more. (She gets her fair share of redemption fics too, such as Heart of Gold, Feathers of Steel. She gets nowhere near as many as Trixie though.)

As for the reasons behind Blueblood's hate, it's probably because it's nearly impossible to sympathise with him. With Gilda, she was aggressive and obsessed with maintaining an appearance, and those tend to be qualities of troubled people. Trixie was the same, as she was a desperate attention seeker (I think her over-the-top mannerisms contributed to her popularity a lot). I've also seen the excuse that Trixie was only putting on an act while in Ponyville, since acting like she's better than everyone simply made for a better show, but she really has all of the insecurities you'd expect from a performer. With Blueblood though, he was just an upper-class snob. His arrogance and selfishness was genuine, so it's much harder to relate to him. There is no troubled inner-pony to redeem.

There's also the problem that he's just so boring. An evil character can be loved simply for being really good at being evil. For example, The Joker in The Dark Knight is almost universally considered to be the star of the entire movie. That's why Discord was so popular. Blueblood was just a bit of a dick, so there's not much to go on.

I think Chrysalis has been getting a lot of love for a few reasons. Her appearance is probably a major factor, with her somehow being simultaneously hideous, threatening and cute. Nobody saw her coming, so it was a huge surprise when she showed up. The Changelings in general were really cool looking bad guys, and with her being their Queen, it's only fair that she gets a lot of attention. She was also a pretty interesting character, which is easy to see from the ridiculous amount of fanon interpretations of her we've seen already. Blueblood never had any of those interesting qualities. He has a fairly standard appearance, and all of the backstories I've seen of him follow the same boring template: 'be born in rich family, be rich, stay rich, be a dick to Rarity'. That's seriously all there is to it.

I don't think his gender has much to do with it. As others have already pointed out, Discord was male, but pretty much everyone likes him. However, I will agree that other evil characters may be loved partly because of their gender. Gilda would be completely despised if she was a dude, and I doubt Trixie would have as many fans either. You could argue that he and Diamond Tiara are very similar, and yet she gets more fans than him, so gender does play a role. However, I think that's more because she's been in more episodes and has generally been more interesting. She's also a child, so you can forgive her for her actions to some degree. Blueblood is an adult, so has no excuse.

TL;DR Version: There are plenty of reasons for Blueblood being hated more than other evil characters, but that doesn't mean he's without fans.

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@Algernon
I liked that fic as well, but only for the storyline. I didn't find the writing to be all that great, I also just dont like Conner Cogwork's writing style.
Either way, it was entertaining to see Rarity want to literally fuck herself.

There's also another story, The 63rd Rune, that's about Twilight messing up a spell and turning them all into colts. I haven't read it but it's a 4 or a 5 star.

@about Blueblood
Yeah, there are several redemption fic for him. One I've been trying to find was a crossover with Groundhog Day, where he has to repeat the Gala until he's done it right. I think that is a real story and I'm not imagining it… PM it to me if you have it please.

I linked to it back at page 109 and so did Algernon…. How can you miss it twice?

I know I'm late for the shipping discussion,but anyway, have some Lyra "Riding" Bon-bon

LOOK AT MY HORSE MY HORSE IS AMAZING

What were you expecting?



Words cannot express.

INB4 RandomMan banning me for posting unicorn supremacist pics on the forum.
I mean c'mon! it's not THAT offensive….

Hey people, I updated the main entry with a part about Mods and Games related to the show. It's a short paragraph to cover things like the models created for Garry's Mod and Skyrim. Please check it out and give reviews.

Also shortened the part about /mlp/ a bit. Some of the images didn't really match and some information was redundant. Should be easier to read now.

P.S. I'm planning some more clean-up on various articles in the next couple of days. I'll post updates and suggestions here, also adding a value of discussion with it.

I'll mainly just list a number of ideas I did/plan on doing, and see what you guys think I should do/should've done. But other examples can also be found. Don't be afraid to add your own suggestions and request editorship if needed.

With that, I'll start with 2 suggestions for now. Both related to the main entry.

• At the bottom of the main entry you'll find some parts about crossovers in the episodes of season 2. But I believe a seperate example for each episode isn't needed. So I was thinking of merging them into one or more paragraphs below a single header, instead of the multiple headers we have now.
• Twilightlicious. It had a short popularity spawn, but died quickly. I'm thinking of merging it with the main entry and place it in the "Creator's Response" part.

Good ideas? Bad ideas? Mediocre ideas, but decent enough to give a go?

Is a segment for the crossovers in Season 2 even necessary? The article is about the subculture surrounding the show, not the show itself. We need to cover the basis of the show to explain to those unfamiliar with it, which is covered by our Origins section. Everything after that section should refer back to the show only when it relates to the subculture such as the "Equestria Girls" Hub Promo and the "Chocolate Rain" reference due to memetic relevancy. I suppose it might be alright if they were condensed like what you're suggesting, though.

I can kinda see games and mods because they're made by the fanbase, spread the subculture, and represent the fandom's creative output well. As for Twilightlicious, might as well. I'm pretty sure Tara Strong isn't going to let people forget about it. She gets the bronies to sing it every time I see her interviewed at a con, and there are a few remixes from when it came out. While it's not a big thing, it is most definitely a thing.

I was also not a great fan of the crossovers part. It's like calling a Mario Figure easter egg in Team Fortress 2 a crossover (fake example). Small nudges towards different shows and series is something nearly every show has.

Things like the Colbert Report shout-out and the South Park episode surrounding Cthulhu are examples from the mainstream recognising the meme/subculture, so those should be covered if big enough. But calling nudges to different shows (not even bronies) stuff that should be covered, I can't say I fully agree with it.

Which is why I suggested that solution. But I don't mind removing a bit more.