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KYM Pony General VII: Live Free or Twi Hard

Last posted Jul 06, 2014 at 04:08PM EDT. Added Apr 19, 2013 at 12:22AM EDT
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@Stunthead

Rap?! Is that what all the cool, young, talented people are doing these days? Carry on…

@DeadParrot

Wait, you mean to tell me that bronies were surprised when they didn't get any super-secret, exclusive information pertaining to either season four or Equestria Girls? My God, how entitled we've become. A Star Wars reading sounds cool as hell, though. Maybe I'll actually try to make it to Everfree NW this summer so I can get some cool con stories to brag about.

In other news, this is my five-hundredth post on this website in over two years.

Last edited May 12, 2013 at 10:39AM EDT

I never thought I'd be so honored to be mentioned in a song where I get spit at, but I am.
And about that crazy CONspiracy, it just shows how obsessed /mlp/ is with EQG, because we already know that the MLP VAs aren't working on it, yet /mlp/ for some reason thought it would be the subject of the"forbidden" event. Interesting that the super secret clubhouse of the Internet gets upset when other people do something "super secret".

@Exude's Image of Existential Crisis

I tried animating once… I failed… Hard…

I'll probably try it again some time… But I'll probably have to spend a lot more time than just a Week…

I greatly respect anyone with the patience for such a task… I only have the patience for "Decent but needs work" comics it seems… And Crazy fanfiction that makes no sense.


Markhaox Wrote:

Oh God, you’ve managed to list four of my fanfics…

1. Half-Changeling, half-pony… story on how a “mistake” from the hive is abandoned and eventually ends up in Los Pegasus.

Strange minds think alike?

ExudesAffluence wrote:

@Stunthead

Rap?! Is that what all the cool, young, talented people are doing these days? Carry on…

@DeadParrot

Wait, you mean to tell me that bronies were surprised when they didn't get any super-secret, exclusive information pertaining to either season four or Equestria Girls? My God, how entitled we've become. A Star Wars reading sounds cool as hell, though. Maybe I'll actually try to make it to Everfree NW this summer so I can get some cool con stories to brag about.

In other news, this is my five-hundredth post on this website in over two years.

Exudes you plagiarizing asshole, if you're going to use quotes from me, you should at least cite them.

Fix'd. Now get back to work before I decide to start letting the motivation rats back into the basement.

@Stunthead's rap

I'll record it once I feel like I can sing without coating the mic with swamp slime.

@Deadparrot

Did you convey my marriage proposal to Tabitha? What did she say?

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@Exudes
I'm not sure what the perceived 'insult' was exactly but it definitely stemmed from some kind of entitlement complex.
Yes, most things from most cons have been live streamed, but that doesn't mean that it is owed to them.
The VAs do pretty much everything they can to make their fans happy and it just so happened that this idea had some limitations to it.


@Fifths

Sorry, man…

Stunthead wrote:

Well, my song is done. I tried to include as many users as I could this time around, but there's no guarantee I got everyone, so I apologise to anyone I left out. In case you didn't find the super sexy awesome secret hint in my last post, the song is a parody of The Real Slim Shady, and it's based around that time Advance got a cult after he was banned. Anyway, enjoy!
(Spoiler'd due to length. If you want to sing along, instrumental is here)

[RandomMan]
May I have your attention please?
May I have your attention please?
Will the real Advance please stand up?
I repeat, will the real Advance please stand up?
We’re gonna have a problem here…

[Advance]
Y’all act like you’ve never seen a saucy picture before
Jaws all on the floor like Lez, like Vazquez burst in the door
And started causing a mess and getting in fights
‘bout rules of the site, getting banned and removed overnight [AHH]
It’s the deathly hasbr… “Ah, wait, no way, you’re kidding.
He didn’t just bring up that again, did he?
And DeadParrot said… nothing you idiots!
DeadParrot’s DEAD. He was stuffed and sold to Stunthead. [HAHA]
Caro’s had a romance with Advance
Shiggy diggy diggy
“Check this guy, the silly-pants
Look at this man, browsing around posting the, you know, plots
Shipping the you-know-who (He is quite cute though…)”
Yeah a few of my pics may seem a bit obtuse
But it’s no worse than what’s going on with Caro and Bulletproof.
Sometimes I wanna get on the forums and just let loose, but can’t
But Swaggyballs can still report admin abuse.
I’m posting all my ships. I’m posting all my ships.
And maybe Kewln00b’ll make a comment about kiss.
And about this time is when you should expect a comment from Fifths
‘bout the state of modern music and how it makes him pissed.
My pics aren’t gonna scare young users away
I mean we’ve still got Lone K.
They have all been to 4chan haven’t they?
Friends are all that we make… well, some of us fake
And only want to bake each other into cupcakes. [NOM]
But we really don’t want you hanging here if you can’t cope
With the idea that Blue Screen and Phoenix can now elope EWWW
But if you need your pony fix we have the antidote
Throw up your fedoras, yo, sing it now with Windigo!

[Chorus]
I’m Advance, yes I’m the real Vance
All you other Advances don’t have any chances
So won’t the real Advance please stand up, please stand up, please stand up?
'cause I’m Advance, yes I’m the real Vance
All you other Advances don’t have any chances
So won’t the real Advance please stand up, please stand up, please stand up?

Oh, you hate it when we leave out the x’s, TSG?
Well not me, so squee you and squee CrazySea.
You think I’d dream ‘bout joining your streams?
Half of you get distracted from the ponies, let alone the memes.
“But Vance, give it a chance! We want you to appear!”
Why? If it ‘aint filled with Rarity then I don’t care!
You’ll probably sit me down next to SkymanKez.
Dang, Timothy the Enchanter better switch me chairs
So I can hear Millennial Dan and Crimson Locks
Fighting ‘bout who should get Parrot’s last Fluttershy box
Then who should arrive but that weirdo named Jimmy
“I ship human Applejack and Jeff the killer.” Teehee
Then there’s Markhaox that suffers from MPD
It’s Serious Business, that guy’s a Disturbed Brony! [AHHH]
I’ve had enough of all these OC’s, all they do is annoy me
Though I don’t mind the ones drawn by Muumi.
And there’s a million of us just like me
Who lust like me, who just want to discuss pony
Post Rarity, change their names to match with me
It just might be the next best thing, but not quite me!

[Chorus]

I’m like Verbose to listen to, ‘cause I’m only giving you
Things to over-analyse with Twins inside a chat room.
The only difference is I got control to say it in front of y’all
Without having to make it sound Sweet and Delicious at all.
I just go on and submit it
I’m semi-pro, like Twilit JA I just spit it
20% better than other posters out can
I’m full of discussion as Protege is full of headcanon.
It’s shaking; if I was gone it would be devastating
You’d feel like Affluence in Fifth’s basement animating.
Grating his teeth and stating that he’s hating simply waiting
For some VA’s but he ate his whole plate of medication.
And every single person’s an Advancer lurking
He could be working at the bakery, spitting on the cake that’s free. [HACH]
Or in the gallery with Blue Yoshi
Typing “I don’t give a buck!”
Putting Alex down, chatting Vino up.
So will the real Advance please stand up?
Get dragonballs from Yi to lift his ban up?
And be proud to be rustling twice as hard as Bruno
And one more time, loud as you can, how does it go?

[Chorus x2]

Haha… guess there’s an Advancer in all of us.
Squee it. Let’s all stand up.

You mentioned me. And you mentioned my ship.

Remember that Nightmare Moon chalking that I said was going to happen? It did, but I missed it and nobody took pictures and the rain already washed it away. And I was mentioned in that song but Advance didn't want to sit next to me. This is truly a dark day.

Oh, and I made this:


It's not like I visit that Tumblr often ever or anything.

@xTSGx
(I was literally about 30 seconds away from posting that myself.)
Here's the accompanying article. Re-confiring a release next month.
My primary reaction:

The animation looks pretty decent and it is pretty clear that Equestria Girls will have the original VAs so those are a couple big weights of skepticism lifted.
After that… eh…
Never been a fan of high-school drama stories and Twilight's new 'friend' has me a little worried that they will be going down a path, at least partially, that I've actually applauded the normal show for avoiding.
Here we go…

@Equestria Girls Trailer

Okay… So… I wouldn't say I'm not still disappointed about the fact it's a highschool AU where Twilight is without Magic…

But I'm now slightly okay with it for reasons I don't quite understand.

…On the other hand… I am kinda realizing that Half the Human in Equestria stories where a Human goes to Equestria and turns into a pony is semi-canonized. And by that I mean the "Universe decides your form" part.

And now for the spoiler part where I actually address things in the Trailer…

Sunset Shimmer is Bad Girl?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I really wanted her to be a new unicorn to the group as well. And now I am having feels instead.

Last edited May 12, 2013 at 10:54PM EDT

So… I was all kinds of ready to laugh this off like we do G3 ponies as a sad, if harmless, poorly put together poop-stravaganza.

Now they got the VAs to do it…

And the animation looks half-decent…

and sunset shimmer and so many questions…

I don't know if this makes the situation better or worse, and I have all kinds of feelings I don't understand.

EDIT:
Same day, Lauren tweets this:

COINCIDENCE?

Last edited May 12, 2013 at 11:23PM EDT

Well that was good for afew laughs.

She is! She's fukken chicken dancing!

Maybe this will be fun?

And maybe scallops are fly'n out of me pants!

Last edited May 12, 2013 at 11:54PM EDT

xTSGx wrote:

And so, the first official trailer for Equestria Girls is upon us.

All hands, brace for rustling.

I've been mostly silent on this whole Equestria Girls business because I suppose I'm still under the errant supposition that if I ignore it, maybe it'll just go away. That didn't work for Twilicorn and it doesn't appear to be working here, so I might as well say my bit.

Equestria Girls for me is going to be like swallowing condoms full of cocain before going on a long twelve hour plane ride: Clearly there is no way that this situation is going to end…enjoyably, the best we can hope for is that the condoms don't break and that they pass relatively harmlessly.

The best case scenario is that this whole mess gets labelled non-canon. It gets revealed that the entire thing was a dream scenario or some shit and they never NEVER talk about humans again. We're forced to sit through a shitty movie, but the show itself is left thankfully unscathed.

And then there's the possibility that the condoms break, which is any scenario where humans get acknowledged as canon. Now this can come in a matter of degrees. Perhaps it gets acknowledged that Twilight did actually go on this adventure and now we have to resentfully incorporate an alternate universe of shitty humans into our headcanons. Maybe we'll be forced to sit through the occasional reference to humans by characters in the show. Now it would be truly unfortunate if the portal stayed open and a couple of the bipedal monstrosities were allowed to come through.

Now thankfully, I think they're going to go with the former scenario and render the whole mess basically non-canon. Since none of the other ponies came through the portal, the human versions of the mane six besides Twilight exist as actual duplicates, and having the portal remain open would allow for the possibility of ponies interacting with their human duplicates, which would be just too weird. I'm optimistic that the damage this shitty corporate ordered slice of ass will do to our beloved pony show will be relatively minimal.

But seriously

Fuck humans
Fuck high school
Fuck Hasbro

Edit:

Oh God, I just realized that that one antagonist bitch is the same as the new pony design we saw floating around. Well fuck.

Last edited May 13, 2013 at 12:06AM EDT

Chances are it'll still be pretty bad, (AKA has a 1% chance of living up to the overhyped expectations MLP somehow has.) but probably not nearly as bad as some people thought it would. And if it ain't canon, then there's no way that Twilight's boyfriend/Milky Way will actually be permanent. She's going to have to leave him behind in the human world, right? Great, now I'm imagining them PG-rated embracing in the rain after defeating the villain with tears in their eyes as she returns to Equestria.

Well I guess I'm with everyone else (except Fifths) in that I am not quite sure how to feel about the trailer. It had a couple of funny/cute shots in it, and it's nice to know that the cast lied to us about knowing nothing about this little project. I've noticed that they are not going the route of having wings and horse ears (and in fact have no magic and flying at all) and they don't have cutie marks on the cheeks and those weird hair extensions that looked like tails that pissed me off so much. The animation overall looked at lease watchable. The CMCs looked especially adorable. I have to say the only thing that concerns me here is the role of Sunset Shimmer in this movie. First off, I find it a little weird that the toys seemed to play her off as a good/neutral pony only to have her become the antagonist of EQG, not to mention she hasn't been introduced in the pony world yet as far as the show is concerned (unless she is introduced at the beginning of the movie in her pony form). As some people have already said, I would hate to see this be degraded to a teenage drama fest. This is a movie about a royal crown being stolen, not someone's boyfriend getting stolen, and so I would hope that the movie would treat the situation as such.

And for the record, I thought the guy in the trailer was Shining Armor…

Last edited May 13, 2013 at 12:13AM EDT

@Connor

The skin color seems to reflect the coat color somewhat. The yellow doesn't match up to Shining's white at all. The hair is also usually identical to the mane, and Soarin's resembles this guy's much more. He also didn't sound much of anything like Shining IMO.

Then again, Soarin' is also light blue. I suppose they could have mistaken the stripe on the jumpsuit for the coat, but since it's the same (or a lot of the same) group, I'd doubt that.

Still predicting Twi/Soarin OTP though.

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All I can say is this…….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ the trailer. Had some legitimately funny moments and the rest of the laughing was out of pity/awkwardness (seeing Spike as a dog, seeing Twilight actually going around the human world going "Hi I'm Twilight Sparkle") and honestly….still not sold but I'm not going to be all 'DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM' like everyone else is.

And I can also say MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ the reactions. Only seen two reactions to it on IMDb and they were enough to sustain my appetite for butthurt/jimmie rustling. I mean seriously, this guy is like "OMG MEGHAN MCCARTHY IS A SELLOUT!" then of course the "I hate this idea because those humans are going to get their dirty hands on my Twily, I hate everyone (except Tara) working on this project." this is too rich.

Okay. So after watching the trailer five more times, I think that this just might be legitimately good. Really. It could be not bad at all. The writers may be doing something cleaver and funny with this idea. I'm okay with the skin color and high school setting. The only thing I didn't like about the trailer was the song. Everything else wasn't offensive to me. I'm not going into this movie with negative thoughts. I'm not going into it with positive thoughts either, but I am going to see it.

Reaction of Internet in general:

My reaction:

There seems to be just enough character and 'self-awareness' in that trailer to make me think that this could potentially work as something that isn't completely horrible.
But Scootaloo… Just-… Of all the dances…
(Anyone else kind of like Vinyl's human design in particular? She was quite well animated and It kind of works for me.)

And a reiteration:

So even if it is a crazy pile of crap, it should have nothing to do with the upcoming season.
Good news all around.

xTSGx wrote:

And so, the first official trailer for Equestria Girls is upon us.

All hands, brace for rustling.

For one thing, it's animated well, and the anorexic-looking prototypes we had seen before appear to have been fleshed out a bit. They shortened the hairstyles and removed the face cutie marks, so that's good news. Further, the animation is well done and the technical aspects of the production seem to be in order. At the same time, my suspension of disbelief only goes so far -- I can happily enjoy movies about science fiction, magic, talking ponies, etc. etc., but that ponies can enter the "human" world whilst still candy-colored as if no one notices (or, more like everyone there is candy-colored while it's supposed to be the "human world") seems hard to believe. Don't get me wrong, I'm not quite at this point:

But I suppose I'd just have to accept that this is the "human world" in the context of the MLP:FiM universe. I also see a potential problem with the plot which appears predictable (assuming, of course, that I am predicting it will follow the normal "new girl in school teaches 'mean girl' how to mellow out and have friends" formula). They could take it in a different direction, and probably will -- adding some of the typical MLP:FiM flair that we all love -- but it's kind of like the "Spike at Your Service" episode: the plot is so commonplace, that it's hard to make it interesting. The fact that she's traveling through dimensions is a cool shift, and if she has to find/re-friend her Equestrian friends, that'd be interesting too.

In the end, I will watch it. They resolved a lot of the character design flaws that people took issue with (the overly skinny body proportions, the weird hair-tails, the face tattoos) and that was one of my largest concerns. The fact that it's a movie instead of a new series/miniseries (per some early speculation as well) also assuages some fears. That there are still ponies in it, and they address the pony to human shift and aren't just like, "Lol, purple humans," also improves things. Count me as a meh.

On another note, do you think the animators/writers are used to the fandom's (myself included) schizophrenia when it comes to announced changes/additions to the show yet?

Best case scenario: It's a fun, if somewhat cliched, 70 minute ride that remains firmly in an AU the Fimfiction mods can fight about including.

Middle-of-the-road scenario: It's a horribly cliched train wreck that gives me Vietnam flashbacks to the worst episodes of Pokemon, but remains in that AU.

Write a 1,500 word blog post scenario: It's fun, but is firmly canonized in season four.

Butthurt scenario: It sucks and is canonized.

Jimmy rustling scenario: It sucks/is good, but Twilight hooks up with Soarin/Shining Armor/"Flash Sentry" (his rumored name) and returns to Equestria with him, establishing the first canon relationship.

Jimmies-rustle-so-much-the-friction-from-the-rustling-ignites-the-atmosphere-and-kills-everyone scenario: It's good/sucks, but Twilight stays on Earth and Shimmer becomes the new Twilight in season four.

I'm personally in the camp that it's noncanon, but at the end of the movie when Twilight comes back to Equestria-1, she sees a ponified Flash Sentry in Ponyville, setting up the hook and rustling jimmies until Season 4.

Yo, I hurr s'human time.

I guess my first impression was the art style. I'm really disappointed they didn't try anything new; yeah, it would be jarring to kick off with the usual stuff for the pony scenes and then suddenly transition into a new vein of animation, but if they're going to make such a divergent spinoff, I'd kind of like it if they were willing to make some changes to how it was presented. Yes, I know, this goes against the god-tier animation quality we get in the show, but I'd at least respect them a ton for taking the risk, enough to make up for almost any shortcomings in animation, except maybe downright laziness.

I also don't like that they left the humans the same colors as their pony counterparts. It's just cutting corners in my eyes; whereas you could have identified each human with its respective pony through, oh, I don't know, characterization, personality and storytelling, they've just gone and made them the same color with the same hairstyle. I guess I really wanted to see them make the characters actual humans, with skin tones and hair and such, instead of weird, pastel, anime-haired bipeds. It's not like clearly defining races would have any sort of detrimental effect on the show. The opposite, rather, since most of the audience will consist of highly impressionable youths who will see all the people of all different colors getting along and such.

I really want the chance to say, "Oh, such-and-such human character is like a human parallel of Scootaloo, but different in a couple areas," rather than saying, "Oh, such-and-such human character is literally Scootaloo." I want them to introduce us to new characters and let us figure out for ourselves who is supposed to be whom, and then have some humans that have no pony parallels, but are purely invented for this movie.

I probably won't watch it, but that's mostly from a stubbornness on my part, refusing to go to movie theaters at all. But Hasbro can make all the Equestria Girls they want and I won't cry foul, so long as the show stays good and the spinoffs don't have too much (read: almost any) influence on the ponies.

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DeadParrot222 wrote:

Reaction of Internet in general:

My reaction:

There seems to be just enough character and 'self-awareness' in that trailer to make me think that this could potentially work as something that isn't completely horrible.
But Scootaloo… Just-… Of all the dances…
(Anyone else kind of like Vinyl's human design in particular? She was quite well animated and It kind of works for me.)

And a reiteration:

So even if it is a crazy pile of crap, it should have nothing to do with the upcoming season.
Good news all around.

Is that…..Lyra in the background? I think that's going to be one of the best parts of the movie is seeing all the background ponies potentially be human (at least after last time we sure as hell won't get Derpy shown in a Special Ed class! Thank god). I feel it will be a nice little game for the bronies…..and of course any background characters that AREN'T ponies will of course get Ponified.

I think that people over hyped Equestria Girls in how bad it is going to turn out and are shocked now that it's really happening. The character design, the animation and the setting is still awkward, but it doesn't look too bad.

Twilight not being able to use magic and her old friends not recognizing her are actually decent ideas. Putting her in high school and the prom queen plot are a different thing…

And argh poor Spike, he really is a dog and I didn't expect to see the pones. I still don't expect much from this spin off.

You know, I hope that this really remains separated from FiM…


Inb4 panda

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The concept is still terrible. It still looks terrible. The designs? Still terrible, but I have to hand it to them for making them look better than in previous images. Some of the character expressions look pretty good. Seems like they're trying to make the best out of what will very likely be a trainwreck.

tl;dr Equestria Girls still looks bad, but slightly less so than before.

Honestly, as much as I'm enjoying and reaping the lulz from this, I'm confused as to why the shitstorm is as intense as it is. We've known about Equestria Girls for three months, so why is the anger and cries of ruined FOREVER just as severe as Twilicorn? I shudder to imagine what'll happen on the 16th of June. I'm not sure if my body will be ready considering what's happening now.


But seriously, it seems like Equestria Girls is actually showing a suprising amount of promise. Having the original voice actors is a big step up, and the character designs are tolerable. I'll definitely give it a shot.

xTSGx wrote:

Honestly, as much as I'm enjoying and reaping the lulz from this, I'm confused as to why the shitstorm is as intense as it is. We've known about Equestria Girls for three months, so why is the anger and cries of ruined FOREVER just as severe as Twilicorn? I shudder to imagine what'll happen on the 16th of June. I'm not sure if my body will be ready considering what's happening now.

I'm actually getting more positive for some reason. I don't know why, but this whole thing seems relatively harmless now.

It may not look as polished as I want it to be. But it looks… Well… Not horrible. And the story sounds interesting now we've seen something concrete.

Basically my disappointment in it is canceled out by the fact its actually starting to look interesting again.

Of course, I'm looking at it from an "I want it to actually be good" standpoint.

I can never say that something like this will ruin the show forever. It's pretty much a one-shot. Something that you can take or leave, and stuff happens, but its never mentioned again.

I'm perfectly fine.

…I think…

I mean… I have only one problem with it at the moment… A problem I noticed from the beginning…

WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEIR FACE?!

Just wondering, am I the only that's looking forward to Equestria Girls unironically, without any disdain or confusion towards the movie? I actually want to see this legitimately and this new trailer actually reassured my feelings towards it. The only thing I worry about is if the DVD comes out before my birthday or not.

20% Cooler than Ice Rinsankajugin wrote:

Just wondering, am I the only that's looking forward to Equestria Girls unironically, without any disdain or confusion towards the movie? I actually want to see this legitimately and this new trailer actually reassured my feelings towards it. The only thing I worry about is if the DVD comes out before my birthday or not.

Why does everyone forget things I pretty much said like… Almost no time ago?

I pretty much just said something along the lines of "it looks to be shaping up, this could actually be worth watching". Even though I ended saying "I still think the faces could be better."

…It's growing on me though. And the faces when animated are not quite as bad as I thought they were back in the concept images.

Who am I kidding… You'll all forget I said any of this in three minuites.

Here, have a pony very close to my heart.

Last edited May 13, 2013 at 07:33AM EDT

I know everyone hates me, and will probably hate me even more for saying this, but…
the trailer wasn't horrible.
There, I said it. I'm actually looking forward to it. It actually looks like it would have humor in it… and Scootaloo doing a chicken dance… I smiled widely. I honestly didn't think they would put any chicken references as her human version. Yep… I now have hopes for this movie.


So now I wait for the movie to come out.

Last edited May 13, 2013 at 08:18AM EDT
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