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Lenny Guy wrote:

@Gabenus Trollucus
Funny how they've still committed to name-dropping and buzzword usage after all that's happened.

@Tomberry
Yo, archive that link. We don't wanna give them any hits.

I won't archive a perfect rebuttal to the logical fallacies used by your mentors and spearheads in a dumb video.

Tomberry wrote:

I won't archive a perfect rebuttal to the logical fallacies used by your mentors and spearheads in a dumb video.

I have to partly agree with Tomberry. The Video IS dumb due to bad editing or missing information. However, the responses to the video seem dumb, not perfect, as well because depending on what context the listener has, it can make either the askers or the answerer to appear to have no clue as to what's going on.The questions are presented without any context, meaning that the data can be misinterpreted by the one whom is trying to answer.

It's like one person is asking questions about fruit salad, and the other is trying to respond by answering questions about Salsa.

While Salsa could technically be a fruit salad (Yum tomatoes and/or mangos) it doesn't give an appropriate answer to the asking party.

Another more apt example was during the Q/A section of Milo's Tour where he was asked about how he, and those on his tour, could be held responsible for propagating hate speech. While the articles surrounding his reputation have made him out to be some sort of Devil incarnate, no one on the panel could answer the question because there was no context or preface to show how it related to him. It lead to a moment of "how is that a question?"

Last edited Jul 14, 2016 at 03:06PM EDT

Garde wrote:

Archive granted

The best part is the last sentence of the article.

"P.S. I have a Patreon, if you want to help me do what I do."

Also the comments are… special.

My favorite was the author's "curious" double standard regarding black lives matter. You can't tell them all lives matter because that's the wrong context and its hurtful… SO that's why they can walk into gay pride parades and block streets full of hardworking people to tell them their black lives matter. Oh and what does it say about someone's life if they can't say theirs matters because it's the wrong context… oh right it means their life matters less than the other guys.

What about situations where the context is completely deranged from funerals or recent deaths? If I want to get through the campus, I shouldn't be forced to deal with loud angry practically rioting picketers to get through campus. But of course that's not addressed because hey nuance isn't important.

Second favorite: the response to woman representing more in colleges
"still making 79 cents on the dollar and getting paid less in every profession than men? That’s bull. Maybe that’s why so many women are in college. And yes, for you doubters, the wage gap is still a thing"

Yeah because woman are totally getting paid less in every profession… except you know the fact that all the laws make that quite clear that you can't do that and woman dominated professions like nursing and psychology definitely don't support your statement with the metrics you used.

TL;DR I don't know why this article exists aside from egotism. The author does not treat the subject matter with respect or nuance. The questions seem entirely to be phrased in the form of strawmen (edit: though to be fair its a response to a video where the questions are listed exactly as they were worded in the video). The responses to the questions make no attempt to understand the question (i.e "What the hell is a “war on language”") . Misleading statistics and data is frequently quoted. Blatant apologism ensues in the course of the article though given the title, its not surprising.

OH well at least they managed the level of maturity the video he was replying to was at.

Last edited Jul 14, 2016 at 03:36PM EDT

Garde wrote:

I have to partly agree with Tomberry. The Video IS dumb due to bad editing or missing information. However, the responses to the video seem dumb, not perfect, as well because depending on what context the listener has, it can make either the askers or the answerer to appear to have no clue as to what's going on.The questions are presented without any context, meaning that the data can be misinterpreted by the one whom is trying to answer.

It's like one person is asking questions about fruit salad, and the other is trying to respond by answering questions about Salsa.

While Salsa could technically be a fruit salad (Yum tomatoes and/or mangos) it doesn't give an appropriate answer to the asking party.

Another more apt example was during the Q/A section of Milo's Tour where he was asked about how he, and those on his tour, could be held responsible for propagating hate speech. While the articles surrounding his reputation have made him out to be some sort of Devil incarnate, no one on the panel could answer the question because there was no context or preface to show how it related to him. It lead to a moment of "how is that a question?"

So another way of describing it, is that the video ended up being like those silly Buzzfeed videos they've been ridiculing. Nice.

@MrKillultra
Well, he at least responded to it. We can at least see how his mind works.

Last edited Jul 14, 2016 at 03:20PM EDT

Lenny Guy wrote:

So another way of describing it, is that the video ended up being like those silly Buzzfeed videos they've been ridiculing. Nice.

@MrKillultra
Well, he at least responded to it. We can at least see how his mind works.

Because it's a parody of them.

MrKillultra wrote:

My favorite was the author's "curious" double standard regarding black lives matter. You can't tell them all lives matter because that's the wrong context and its hurtful… SO that's why they can walk into gay pride parades and block streets full of hardworking people to tell them their black lives matter. Oh and what does it say about someone's life if they can't say theirs matters because it's the wrong context… oh right it means their life matters less than the other guys.

What about situations where the context is completely deranged from funerals or recent deaths? If I want to get through the campus, I shouldn't be forced to deal with loud angry practically rioting picketers to get through campus. But of course that's not addressed because hey nuance isn't important.

Second favorite: the response to woman representing more in colleges
"still making 79 cents on the dollar and getting paid less in every profession than men? That’s bull. Maybe that’s why so many women are in college. And yes, for you doubters, the wage gap is still a thing"

Yeah because woman are totally getting paid less in every profession… except you know the fact that all the laws make that quite clear that you can't do that and woman dominated professions like nursing and psychology definitely don't support your statement with the metrics you used.

TL;DR I don't know why this article exists aside from egotism. The author does not treat the subject matter with respect or nuance. The questions seem entirely to be phrased in the form of strawmen (edit: though to be fair its a response to a video where the questions are listed exactly as they were worded in the video). The responses to the questions make no attempt to understand the question (i.e "What the hell is a “war on language”") . Misleading statistics and data is frequently quoted. Blatant apologism ensues in the course of the article though given the title, its not surprising.

OH well at least they managed the level of maturity the video he was replying to was at.

I don't mean to be a downer, but there's a good chance that the Author is either ignoring the contrary information that could disprove their narrative, has not read and/or researched/validated the contrary information, or has specifically avoided learning the contrary information.

As for your two bests:

BLM is about sending a message they're trying to send about white violence on blacks, but stealing the thunder from other covered more popular movements might. (After all, death, in the end, is an equal opportunist.) Still surprised they just don't do the whole write letters/emails thing.

And that whole 79 cents to the dollar? Well it's a well cited "fact" so it MUST be true! Though I'm surprised companies haven't hopped on this to save 21% on their profit margin by firing the men.

Last edited Jul 14, 2016 at 03:26PM EDT

robertman2 wrote:

Should have used 'With thunderous applause' clip from Episode III

Fuck the Star Wars prequels! The German Government has literally declared Gamergate to be a criminal organisation and cited Anita Sarkeesian while arresting people for wrongthink and that's what matters?

roberthaha wrote:

Fuck the Star Wars prequels! The German Government has literally declared Gamergate to be a criminal organisation and cited Anita Sarkeesian while arresting people for wrongthink and that's what matters?

wait are you serious? I'm in germany right now.. fucking germans man, I just don't understand them at all.

roberthaha wrote:

Fuck the Star Wars prequels! The German Government has literally declared Gamergate to be a criminal organisation and cited Anita Sarkeesian while arresting people for wrongthink and that's what matters?

Source?

I tried google-fu with that and I can't seem to find a declaration of Germany crying Gamergate to be a hate group. All I could find was that 4chan ban blocking German users from talking about Gamergate in /pol.

Ah, thanks. Now I can bring up related articles to Verify.

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As for the German pamphlet which lists Gamergate by name and gives instruction on how to improperly deal with hate speech

To sum up: 60 people got arrested for Hate speech on Facebook in Germany, and there's a list of doxes on people who wrongthink on social media in that country. An Ex Stasi member is involved with the creation of guidelines, and a pamphlet (linked) uses gamergate as an example of hatespeech that could be considered an offense that could get someone doxed, fired from their job or arrested.

At least thats what I think the video has said, feel free to correct me. Trust but Verify.

EDIT:

CALLED IT!

Well sort of. Someone made a stink about Pokemon Go being Ableist.

Last edited Jul 14, 2016 at 06:35PM EDT

DirkDiggums wrote:

wait are you serious? I'm in germany right now.. fucking germans man, I just don't understand them at all.

Come to America! We'll let you be a Nazi if you want.

Is it odd that Germany seems to be unable to escape the grip of political fascism? Is it like the structure of the government? The people? The air? I just can't really understand how this can happen again. Not saying it will be on the level of Nazi Germany but it is still political fascism.

Garde wrote:

insert voice from the heavens here A peon ascended to godhood and complained about the process.

Luckily Bain proceeded to smite the new demigod.

(I mean, what new god would even use a 1070 for their ascension? Ok ok I kid. Turn off the booming voice)

Turn off the sound effects

Also PewDiePie weighs in on his namedrop

(Can't embed due to Youtube's new interface on that video)

TL;DW: PewDiePie explains how he disclosed in letsplay of Shadow of Mordor and how he doesn't really do reviews, just plays games and shares the experience.

> Have an unreasonable amount of disposable income.

Uh, the r/PCMasterRace guide has "The End-All" option (blowing every console combined out of the water) at US$866.81.

That can also do anything you want for home computing all the way up to heavy video editing, will run pretty much every game released in the next 5 years.


@Tomberry

> I won’t archive a perfect rebuttal to the logical fallacies used by your mentors and spearheads in a dumb video.

The answer to "What do you hope to gain by bringing back racial segregation?" is just a flat-out "You may not agree that this is a noteworthy goal for black individuals to pursue, but don’t misconstrue it as an attempt toward racial segregation" denial that black only spaces are segregation.

That's not "perfect" by any reasonable definition.


roberthaha/Garde

After Brexit & the massively growing backlash against the government's migrant policies the German government has no clue how to react besides copying Hitler/Mielke.

I wonder if Merkel or Juncker are actually insane enough to try to change the EU so no country can follow the UK? If they are they're going to need all 27 governments to sign on and that's not going to happen. And if they try to force it through then they're going to have a continent-wide revolution on their hands as everyone even leaning Euroskeptic suddenly regards Nigel Farage as too soft while every moderate Europhile drops support.

Basilius wrote:

Come to America! We'll let you be a Nazi if you want.

Is it odd that Germany seems to be unable to escape the grip of political fascism? Is it like the structure of the government? The people? The air? I just can't really understand how this can happen again. Not saying it will be on the level of Nazi Germany but it is still political fascism.

This is going to sound terrible but it's a big reason why it's happening again.

The people who were involved when fascism was in its heyday were not all snuffed out. They quieted down, lurked around behind the scenes, not doing too much to attract attention. Thus their influence was allowed to continue to corrupt the following generations.

There's another reason that I know has a lot to do with it, but that will get into matters of faith and all that, so… this may or may not be the place for it, even though most everyone on this forum seems to be pretty based about things.

Dioxin Jimmy wrote:

This is going to sound terrible but it's a big reason why it's happening again.

The people who were involved when fascism was in its heyday were not all snuffed out. They quieted down, lurked around behind the scenes, not doing too much to attract attention. Thus their influence was allowed to continue to corrupt the following generations.

There's another reason that I know has a lot to do with it, but that will get into matters of faith and all that, so… this may or may not be the place for it, even though most everyone on this forum seems to be pretty based about things.

Interesting. In my interactions with younger Germans they seem to be cool, but the older generations are very weird… they make the biggest deal out of the smallest shit and they stare like nobody's business, it's just very weird. Then again I am in Baden-Wurttemburg which I hear is the backwater of Germany.

But arresting people for supporting Gamergate due to "hate speech"? That can be abused to easily, it's pretty damn close to opinion policing. Makes me wonder if I need to get a VPN so I don't have some stasi knocking on my door for making fun of sarkeesian.

Dioxin Jimmy wrote:

This is going to sound terrible but it's a big reason why it's happening again.

The people who were involved when fascism was in its heyday were not all snuffed out. They quieted down, lurked around behind the scenes, not doing too much to attract attention. Thus their influence was allowed to continue to corrupt the following generations.

There's another reason that I know has a lot to do with it, but that will get into matters of faith and all that, so… this may or may not be the place for it, even though most everyone on this forum seems to be pretty based about things.

A bunch of ex-Nazis were part of the post-war German government, it's not too surprising stuff like this happens.

And that's not counting the plans for a 4th Reich.

Last edited Jul 15, 2016 at 01:18AM EDT

And now for a sum up:

Pokemon Go is a goldmine of justifiable harassment against the playerbase and developers for being themselves. (Twitter stuff so… it's about as effective as Jarate)

And the Government is considering restrictions on the game because it's promoting Darwin awards

Gamergate is somehow responsible for a fake victim attack about the Terrorist attack in Nice which is odd because the article writers are the ones that choose these images to publish. So blame shift? I can't remember the story behind that image.

Ghostbusters is really really bad according to Angryjoe, Sargon says its forgetable meh and Rotten Tomatoes gave it a 73 with a FRESH sticker (Which is usually reserved for scores around 90.)

According to Joe the whole thing is a clustertruck of bad writing, terrible cgi and really bad jokes. We're talking anatomy jokes of the XX chromosome kind.

Metacritic says the movie is just Meh.

So depending on where you research the movie is GREAT with a strained almost plastic smile, alright (becuase hey there's positives for its message… whatever that is,) I can't recall because it was bad to the point of I can't even make fun of it, or HOLY COW this is so bad I can't process what happened.

I'm going to guess it's along with other CGI "gems" like Alvin and the Chipmunks and The Smurfs.

Last edited Jul 15, 2016 at 03:13PM EDT

Garde wrote:

And now for a sum up:

Pokemon Go is a goldmine of justifiable harassment against the playerbase and developers for being themselves. (Twitter stuff so… it's about as effective as Jarate)

And the Government is considering restrictions on the game because it's promoting Darwin awards

Gamergate is somehow responsible for a fake victim attack about the Terrorist attack in Nice which is odd because the article writers are the ones that choose these images to publish. So blame shift? I can't remember the story behind that image.

Ghostbusters is really really bad according to Angryjoe, Sargon says its forgetable meh and Rotten Tomatoes gave it a 73 with a FRESH sticker (Which is usually reserved for scores around 90.)

According to Joe the whole thing is a clustertruck of bad writing, terrible cgi and really bad jokes. We're talking anatomy jokes of the XX chromosome kind.

Metacritic says the movie is just Meh.

So depending on where you research the movie is GREAT with a strained almost plastic smile, alright (becuase hey there's positives for its message… whatever that is,) I can't recall because it was bad to the point of I can't even make fun of it, or HOLY COW this is so bad I can't process what happened.

I'm going to guess it's along with other CGI "gems" like Alvin and the Chipmunks and The Smurfs.

Any movie with 60% or higher positive reviewsis considered fresh by Rotton Tomatoes

robertman2 wrote:

Any movie with 60% or higher positive reviewsis considered fresh by Rotton Tomatoes

Sorry, I meant Certified fresh. Not just the red tomato. Then again they gave that to the shallows at 78, so maybe it's a "we were paid to give it a positive review" sticker

Last edited Jul 15, 2016 at 04:21PM EDT

Garde wrote:

Sorry, I meant Certified fresh. Not just the red tomato. Then again they gave that to the shallows at 78, so maybe it's a "we were paid to give it a positive review" sticker

What really matters is the regular people's opinions on the film.

From what I've seen and heard so far Men give it a "Meh" or say it is Awful.
While the women tend to give it a meh or say it is great.

And that is the worst possible outcome. Meh. If a movie is just forgettable and doesn't leave any impact at all. A really bad movie would always be remembered for being bad. A good movie would always be remembered for being good. If your movie is just Okay, it will be forgotten and swept away by the next good movie.

Garde wrote:

Sorry, I meant Certified fresh. Not just the red tomato. Then again they gave that to the shallows at 78, so maybe it's a "we were paid to give it a positive review" sticker

Ah. In that case, when a movie with 100% or more reviews hits 75, it becomes Certified. It loses it if goes under 70% though

Last edited Jul 15, 2016 at 05:02PM EDT

Okay, so I saw some drama relating to journalism and GG-dropping that I'll share with you.

So, a woman with dyed hair writes a stupid and incendiary piece in a newspaper that ends with a paragraph indirectly stereotyping gamers. She then claims to be receiving harassment and claims she upset "manbaby gam3rgaters": She also said it was funny to bully male gamers in regards to her piece. I also noticed her twitter account has been suspended and I dunno if it's been brought back up yet.

This does appear to follow a predictable pattern, however. Someone says or does something incendiary or stupid, next thing they're complaining about getting angry comments/harassment in which they'll probably name-drop GG and/or blame something like white supremacists. They'll act like a victim of some sort of hate campaign and maybe get an unwarranted amount of sympathy and maybe even money from certain kinds of activists and people in the news media despite them being terrible people.

Maybe this will make you laugh or be pissed off, but it does look a lot like what happened with people like Alison Rapp, Adria Richards, Anita, and that genius who referenced GG in "Prison School", for instance. Granted she hasn't gotten a bunch of unnecessary sympathy from other sites right now, but I really wouldn't be surprised if she did. I can't be the only one who notices this.

Last edited Jul 16, 2016 at 09:20AM EDT

DirkDiggums wrote:

Interesting. In my interactions with younger Germans they seem to be cool, but the older generations are very weird… they make the biggest deal out of the smallest shit and they stare like nobody's business, it's just very weird. Then again I am in Baden-Wurttemburg which I hear is the backwater of Germany.

But arresting people for supporting Gamergate due to "hate speech"? That can be abused to easily, it's pretty damn close to opinion policing. Makes me wonder if I need to get a VPN so I don't have some stasi knocking on my door for making fun of sarkeesian.

Maybe the Tor browser would be a good idea. Just don't poke anywhere you know you shouldn't.

And you should install 5 or so firewalls.

Last edited Jul 16, 2016 at 11:36AM EDT

Lenny Guy wrote:

Okay, so I saw some drama relating to journalism and GG-dropping that I'll share with you.

So, a woman with dyed hair writes a stupid and incendiary piece in a newspaper that ends with a paragraph indirectly stereotyping gamers. She then claims to be receiving harassment and claims she upset "manbaby gam3rgaters": She also said it was funny to bully male gamers in regards to her piece. I also noticed her twitter account has been suspended and I dunno if it's been brought back up yet.

This does appear to follow a predictable pattern, however. Someone says or does something incendiary or stupid, next thing they're complaining about getting angry comments/harassment in which they'll probably name-drop GG and/or blame something like white supremacists. They'll act like a victim of some sort of hate campaign and maybe get an unwarranted amount of sympathy and maybe even money from certain kinds of activists and people in the news media despite them being terrible people.

Maybe this will make you laugh or be pissed off, but it does look a lot like what happened with people like Alison Rapp, Adria Richards, Anita, and that genius who referenced GG in "Prison School", for instance. Granted she hasn't gotten a bunch of unnecessary sympathy from other sites right now, but I really wouldn't be surprised if she did. I can't be the only one who notices this.

I was going to write something about her treating negative attributes as virtues, but I'll just let this sum it all up.

Last edited Jul 16, 2016 at 11:44AM EDT

Lenny Guy wrote:

Okay, so I saw some drama relating to journalism and GG-dropping that I'll share with you.

So, a woman with dyed hair writes a stupid and incendiary piece in a newspaper that ends with a paragraph indirectly stereotyping gamers. She then claims to be receiving harassment and claims she upset "manbaby gam3rgaters": She also said it was funny to bully male gamers in regards to her piece. I also noticed her twitter account has been suspended and I dunno if it's been brought back up yet.

This does appear to follow a predictable pattern, however. Someone says or does something incendiary or stupid, next thing they're complaining about getting angry comments/harassment in which they'll probably name-drop GG and/or blame something like white supremacists. They'll act like a victim of some sort of hate campaign and maybe get an unwarranted amount of sympathy and maybe even money from certain kinds of activists and people in the news media despite them being terrible people.

Maybe this will make you laugh or be pissed off, but it does look a lot like what happened with people like Alison Rapp, Adria Richards, Anita, and that genius who referenced GG in "Prison School", for instance. Granted she hasn't gotten a bunch of unnecessary sympathy from other sites right now, but I really wouldn't be surprised if she did. I can't be the only one who notices this.


@DirkDiggums

Also, here's a good guide to VPNs.

Bookie wrote:

And screenshotted/uploaded.

I feel that I was amiss to not have done this myself. But then again, I got sick over the weekend, so I'm not thinking that clearly.

Hang on a second. Where's the rest of it? There's quite a bit more than just this.

Last edited Jul 17, 2016 at 09:41PM EDT

Dioxin Jimmy wrote:

Noooooo… They couldn't have just been like, "Hey, everyone seems to want different emojies, so here's how you can make your own!"
They had to make sure people knew who they were pandering to…

Google.com reads, at the bottom: "It's World Emoji Day! Teen girls, code an emoji that's unique like you."

Dioxin Jimmy wrote:

I feel that I was amiss to not have done this myself. But then again, I got sick over the weekend, so I'm not thinking that clearly.

Hang on a second. Where's the rest of it? There's quite a bit more than just this.

Fixed.

Garde wrote:

Google.com reads, at the bottom: "It's World Emoji Day! Teen girls, code an emoji that's unique like you."

So, what? I guess boy's aren't unique? We're all just subdivided clones of each other?

Last edited Jul 18, 2016 at 09:47AM EDT

Well, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Though I'm surprised with the excuse of "It's 2016" people still think it's a good strategy to call out a targeted demographic by title. Then again, direction can be kinda… exact in a business environment.

Also leader of gamergate renews his membership:

Summary of other current stuff:
Videogames journalism is trying to make every game look bad, yo.
From the new Deus Ex
to Pokemon go… again.
To televised E-sports! (Verification confirmed by the tweeter via scrolling down)
Overwatch is culture appropriation
And something (I need more research) is trying to pit Black Lives Matter against PokemonGo (There's been artwork and talks about PokemonGo being a Privilage manifestation)

Also there was something about a troll ghostbusters post being redacted without notes from the editor.

Plus side, some corrupt jurno got comeuppance Sadly not related to games journalism, but posing as an ex government employee has consequences!

Edit: adding more to the list as I find stuff related to Vidyagames and Enthusiast/Fandom culture.

Last edited Jul 18, 2016 at 03:09PM EDT

So more on the news front:

(This is probably a late translation/interpretation of previously posted information) Germany justifies it's hate speech arrests
Tumblr is becoming more worthless
Sarcasm And there's a war between Gamergate and a Ghostbusters Celebrity because of internalized and externalized misogony end sarcasm I swear Gamergate is the web Journalists' go to word when they can't think of Patriarchy. (Also Godwin's law makes a cameo! Super Saiyan style!)

Luckily Milo's there to call it out, and immediately gets a hashtag for voicing his opinion.

And now for the Main stuff in Vidya!

Media misinterprets study again. ( Sarcasm It's the ghost of Jack Thompson! Videogames cause violence! Finally a study that proves it! End Sarcasm)
The real study

TL:DR;
Media misinterprets data showing a slight correlation of violent media and kids 8 years and younger. Immediately assumes it's video games. Study says it's all violent media, based on "over 400" cases, 140+ were for video games. I'm not a statistician, but that seems to be kinda low.

New York Times back at it again with the gamergate iz trolls articles.

My favorite part is

"at one point tangling with Milo Yiannopoulos, an advocate for the GamerGate group, whose supporters often send vile messages to women in the name of equal rights."

uh. what the fuck? How does one send vile messages to women in the name of equal rights? At least get the point of gamergate right you fucking dolt Katie Rogers.

If I had a dollar for every one of these articles that are not even wrong, just fucking gibberish saying "nerd gamer menz h8 cool womenz, boooo!" I'd have a gold encrusted fleshlight.

Garde wrote:

So more on the news front:

(This is probably a late translation/interpretation of previously posted information) Germany justifies it's hate speech arrests
Tumblr is becoming more worthless
Sarcasm And there's a war between Gamergate and a Ghostbusters Celebrity because of internalized and externalized misogony end sarcasm I swear Gamergate is the web Journalists' go to word when they can't think of Patriarchy. (Also Godwin's law makes a cameo! Super Saiyan style!)

Luckily Milo's there to call it out, and immediately gets a hashtag for voicing his opinion.

And now for the Main stuff in Vidya!

Media misinterprets study again. ( Sarcasm It's the ghost of Jack Thompson! Videogames cause violence! Finally a study that proves it! End Sarcasm)
The real study

TL:DR;
Media misinterprets data showing a slight correlation of violent media and kids 8 years and younger. Immediately assumes it's video games. Study says it's all violent media, based on "over 400" cases, 140+ were for video games. I'm not a statistician, but that seems to be kinda low.

I don't know there are a bunch of other studies that show that Violent media, particularly video games, doesn't correlate to an increase in violent behavior. So one study saying it does particularly with those small numbers might need more work.

Basilius wrote:

I don't know there are a bunch of other studies that show that Violent media, particularly video games, doesn't correlate to an increase in violent behavior. So one study saying it does particularly with those small numbers might need more work.

Plus there's peer review that must be conducted to confirm. Given that children (all under 18) are close to 74Mil in the US, I don't think 400, let alone 140 cases are a good representation.

Oh and news:

Freedom of the press does not mean freedom from consequence, especially since freedom of the press applies to government not individuals.

Denton files for personal bankruptcy, moral bankruptcy was ages ago.

DirkDiggums wrote:

New York Times back at it again with the gamergate iz trolls articles.

My favorite part is

"at one point tangling with Milo Yiannopoulos, an advocate for the GamerGate group, whose supporters often send vile messages to women in the name of equal rights."

uh. what the fuck? How does one send vile messages to women in the name of equal rights? At least get the point of gamergate right you fucking dolt Katie Rogers.

If I had a dollar for every one of these articles that are not even wrong, just fucking gibberish saying "nerd gamer menz h8 cool womenz, boooo!" I'd have a gold encrusted fleshlight.

>How does one send vile messages to women in the name of equal rights?

"Hey, cunt, you better be in favor of allowing women to go topless in public or I'll come to your house and shoot you!"

Garde wrote:

Plus there's peer review that must be conducted to confirm. Given that children (all under 18) are close to 74Mil in the US, I don't think 400, let alone 140 cases are a good representation.

Oh and news:

Freedom of the press does not mean freedom from consequence, especially since freedom of the press applies to government not individuals.

Denton files for personal bankruptcy, moral bankruptcy was ages ago.

Hulkmania coninues to run wild

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