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Bernie Sanders, the person in the lead for the Democrat pool currently.

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I mean who is stealing his ideas?

The ones they support medicare buy in, but refuse to admit it's just Sander's plan watered down.

eh, i'd say its more of a step up from obamacare than a step down of Sander's plan. Sander's plan is more or less all or nothing. You can't really water it down.

Don't tell Trump, but wind power electrical generation grew by 8% in 2018.

I haven't checked Venezuela's inflation rate for a while so I checked it.
And surprisingly, It's decreasing now
I was honestly hoping for it to reach 10 mil %.

That's just the calm before the storm, the hyperinflation was "half stopped", thanks to the government put the rate of the dollar to Bolivar at the same price as the black market, 3300 sovereign Bolivars for 1 dollar, but, as the government does not have enough dollars to satisfy the demand for dollars and also puts many obstacles to get a small amount of dollars, recently the black market price jumped to 4500 sovereign bolivares for 1 dollar, so if the government does not readjust the exchange rate at the same rate as the black market, then the vicious circle will start again, people do not want bolivares, they want dollars, in fact there are many places that charge in dollars, even though the official currency is bolivar.

US Businesses have been refusing to report Chinese cyber attacks against their businesses as billions are stolen.

The SALT Cap is hurting US families by the hundreds of thousands.
Thanks, Trump.

Trump's attorneys are threatening Mazars USA accounting firm to not comply with House subpoena.

William Barr has a history of misleading Congress, going back to 1989.

Mueller report’s release is expected Thursday, Justice Dept. says

hype

BREAKING NEWS!

The Notre-Dame Cathedral is burning down!

The fire is engulfing the whole building

Reports is that renovation work is the cause of the fire. Currently injuries/deaths are unknown at this point.

$5 says that it will say the same thing the Barr's summery said of it.

What Sanders said at the latest rally had the crowd cheering and it might be something even Trump might have trouble countering. Sander's plan is to end contracts with companies that move factories overseas.

The USA government spends 4 trillion dollars a year, that's a lot of financial leeway. Honestly I would like for him to go even further with that, end subsidies and tax breaks with companies that outsource to other countries.
"This will hurt the economy!"
The economies of OTHER countries.

Bill Weld is running against Trump as a Republican.

Yes, but of that 4 trillion dollars roughly 500 billion is actually spent on contracts. And of that 500 billion, the majority goes to military contracts.

And I sincerely doubt that Sanders is going to end contracts with the big giants in defense industries that also have a clientèle outside of the US (in of itself most likely very limited). Frankly, there isn't much leeway there – as the threat of ending a sudden contract with a defense company that you have decades of established relationship, clear expectation of security, quality, and research that has been going on for decades would be catastrophic.

1) It would directly cause major political uproar in states that largely benefit from those contracts (of which some, like California, tend to be very very pro-Bernie), and would completely shatter any political support he would have.

2) It would severely undermine US security operations abroad, and domestically – leading to massive geopolitical fallout that could take decades to recover.

3) It would severely obliterate any political support from the vast majority of Americans, to the exception of some fringe pacifist-left and libertarians I suppose.

To be perfectly level with you here the companies he thinks he can go after, and the companies y'all think he is going to go aren't particularly in need of a lot of government contracts – nor do they care or really need them when they are essentially a globalized company.

The thing is. The above plan would have worked in the 90s. IN fact, Ross Perot had a similar anti-globalization policy, which garned him a massive boost in popularity. But that was before glottalization happened. That was before majority of companies started opening up foreign branches. That was before massive advances in robotics and AI that also made it more difficult for the average worker to compete.

We're living in a far different world than what Bernie thinks it is. And something tells me that you're going to start hearing a lot about these 20th century solutions to 21st century problems.

Welll…. Clinton supporters can't say they're not trying to sabotage Bernie now.

Clinton supporters in 2016, "We didn't sabotage your presidential run"
Clinton supporters in 2019, "Bernie can not become the president"
It just goes to show a lot of rich people on the left are armchair progressives that like diversity and all that but the second you usher the words "tax the rich" they vote Republican.

Honestly if Trump does get re-elected what situation we're probably going to wind up in is:
Clinton supporters, "I don't know how Trump got re-elected!"
Literally everyone, "It's cause you voted for Trump"
Clinton supporters, "I'm pretty certain me voting Republican had nothing to do with it; it was cause of misogyny I bet"

So you just admit that President Trump will pull in more than just his base voters. Seeing just how shattered and broken the Democrat party is, I can see President Trump getting at least 10% to 20% of the democrat voters.

President Trump vetoes resolution calling on U.S. to withdraw support from Saudi-led war in Yemen.
4D CHESS EVERYONE
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS
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Trump just deadass called Bernie "Crazy Bernie"

Chewbunny said:

what evidence do we have that those who will get UBI won't squander it?

The Finland test ended with no impact on the employment rate and some participants coming to rely on it for income. So, it doesn't strike me as being all that different.

poochyena said:

pollster rankings

I find it fascinating 538 didn't include their own statistics in those rankings.

Particle Mare said:

I'm personally deeply suspicious of "new media" and don't see it, in its current state, as an adequate solution to traditional media's many problems.

When I think of "new media" I tend to think of totally unfiltered, near instant news that's now accessible, not talking heads on Youtube. I'll never forget when the Boston Bombings happened and my brother pulled up the Boston police scanner on his computer. We knew the guy was hiding in the boat twenty minutes before CNN reported it.

I think the ability to get news information without any of the spin or opinion added to it is one of the great feats of the digital age. At the same time, it does present the problem of legitimacy.

BrentD15 said:

>polling Biden as though he's running

He's running. He even had a gaffe where he admitted it. Which, so far, is probably the funniest thing this election. Well, that and Schultz literally having a "please clap" moment.

Team Arkos said:

The Brits won't hand over anyone that will be charged with death.

He's not been charged with espionage or treason (don't even know if he could be charged with treason given he's not a US citizen). And given Kennedy v. Louisiana, I doubt even if he was that the death penalty would stick given SCOTUS's "someone has to be murdered" rule.

He's charged with conspiracy to commit computer intrusion, which carries up to five years in prison. It'll be interesting to see if the government can actually prove he helped Manning crack some passwords, or if Manning just did like Snowden did and gave him the files after the fact. That seems to be the whole crux of the case.

The greater aerie said:

is being charged on bail for a retracted rape accusation…

He's been arrested for skipping bail. It's moot whether the original reason for the bail has been withdrawn, it's still a crime to skip bail. Just as you'd still have to face time for punching a cop who was arresting you, even if the original reason for the arrest didn't hold up.

Adegeneratefurry said:

Oh wait that's right the USA calls them "Internment camps".

Don't be ridiculous. They're called FEMA camps now.

>I find it fascinating 538 didn't include their own statistics in those rankings.

…well yea… 538 aren't pollsters…

Either way, they have it and it showed they are very accurate
Our forecasts of elections have actually been a little bit underconfident, historically. For instance, candidates who we said were supposed to win 75 percent of the time have won 83 percent of the time.

So they are going with "Take our word for it and just trust us." Pooch, seriously?

LeaveEU faked migrant footage.

William Barr is telling immigration court judges to deny bond hearings to asylum seekers.

The rehabilitation of authoritarian leaders is disturbing, from Stalin to Mussolini.

Why are these countries rehabilitating their worst leaders?

Sanakan said:

President Trump vetoes resolution calling on U.S. to withdraw support from Saudi-led war in Yemen.
4D CHESS EVERYONE
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS

The Yemeni Genocide continues, and this President encourages it.

No. Click the links.

I did, And they are from the same site. They are attempting to self exam and I am doubtful they can properly do that.

Now YOU saying I need to check links is ironically hypocritical of you Pooch. YOU have your own built in bias so bad you won't click other people's links or watch youtube vids!

>self exam

again, click the link. They compiled all of their data, you can literally look at the raw data yourself. This isn't them saying they are good, its them literally showing you their data and accuracy rates. If you disagree, you aren't disagreeing with 538, you are disagreeing with basic fundamentals of math.

Nice dodge pooch, but you won't dodge my main point that YOU request everyone to read your links when you frequently if not nearly all the time dismiss everyone else's links.

I don't dismiss links. I dismiss the opinions of the people you link.

So you admit you refuse to hear anything that doesn't fit your preset world view. Yep, you dismiss anything your are biased against, links and all. You even admitted earlier you look on the links name and dismiss it off hand. At least I am glad you confirmed that you are close mind biased person.

can you even stay on track? Every reply you start talking about something else. I ignore bias opinion youtubers, wtf does that have to do with the accuracy of 538's forecasts?

I am on track. You admitted that you look at a link's title and refuse to read the rest of it if you don't like it. Again you reconfirm that you live in a self imposed bubble. But if you want me to recap what i said earlier is that I am disbelieving of 538's self auditing ability.

>You admitted that you look at a link's title and refuse to read the rest of it if you don't like it.

Thats not what I said.

> I am disbelieving of 538's self auditing ability.

You don't need to. The data is literally out in the open for you to look at.

Let me ask a question: do you really want Clinton die hard fans?

Arkos, "Let's welcome sjw's to the Republican party, nothing can go wrong cause it'll get us more votes!"
(Your brain reminding you of this)

Cyrus Vance under investigation for activities related to dropping investigations against Donald Trump's children.

Remember, Cy got political contributions from the Trump family.

@BrentD15
I don’t think Pro-Stalinism ever really went away. There’s literally a museum in Stalin’s hometown that portrays him positively. The comedy film “The Death of Stalin” which correctly portrays Stalin as horrible person, is banned in Russia because it was considered “anti-Russian”.
Also if Mussolini’s tomb says anything about Italians view of him, it’s that they like him.

The reason why I don't agree with the political climate military wise is that when you think about it doesn't make sense; billions are spent on humanly killing people and we sell state of the art weaponry to brutal dictatorships.

The problem with that summarized is from this 1993 newspaper:

North Korea has test-fired a new tactical guided weapon

Mueller report will be lightly redacted, revealing detailed look at obstruction of justice investigation

just ~12 hours until we see the report.

Its really weird Barr is holding a press conference about the report before it is released. I'd think a conference a day or two after the release would make more sense so people can read it and then ask questions about it.

William Barr apparently briefed the White House on Mueller's Report.

When did subjects of the investigation get briefed on what investigators found on them before they get arrested or brought into a SCIF for questioning?

Lawsuit names Alan Dershowitz as participant in Jeffery Epstein's sex trafficking.

The National Enquirer might shut down due to lack of buyers.

If you really think Clinton die hard and SJW will join the Republican party, then you are dimmer than I gave you credit for. What the Democrats will lose is the AFL-CIO union workers and the other hard working blue-collar workers that knee-jerk voted for the Democrats for ages. Now that they are waking up to the fact that the leadership and vocal side of the Democrats that are growing more and more hostile to their existence due to the fact they don't toe the line good enough for them.The democrats openly discarded the White male vote and it shows. Oh and the open face antisemitism that is becoming the norm in the Democrats isn't helping them either.

Still, I can't say that some Clinton die hards may still vote for President Trump as a big FU to the Democrat party.

Australia is ready to confirm a key meeting involving George Papadopoulus that started the Trump-Russia investigation.

inb4 "but Carter Page" or "Fake Steele dossier!"

Most people's understanding of Geo politics, and the US role in it after WW2, the cold war, and even today, is extraordinarily low. So yes.

When you think about it, it doesn't make much sense. Because the level of knowledge you may have is insignificant to form an understanding of the political climate of Geo politics.

Take for example the refrain that the US supported dictatorships. Yes, it did, often, as a decision of siding with the lesser of two evils, not always, but often.

This is especially true when the absolute chaos that came about in the post WW2 era post colonialism left a ton of countries vulnerable to the spread of international communism – which in almost every case has left the countries it did spread to nearly destroyed.

It also left the European ordee vulnerable to serious threats of politics via hydraulic despotism. I.e access to oil and energy, which tends to be very plentiful in chaotic, unstable, and often times backward regions of the world

And even this is a poor summation of the high complexities of Geo political game and arena.

So I can understand why it doesn't make sense. It's hard to see a bigger picture, or take context as to what the alternative would have been.

So, William Barr gives his presser, and the Mueller Report is released, shattering Barr's rationale.

Some highlights.

IT'S OVER!

Muller's report is out and there is NO COLLUSION! NO OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE! No matter how the media tries to spin it, the special council can not prove guilt, there for President Trump is INNOCENT.

Still, there is much less was redacted than I thought it was.

Edit:
So Brent beat me by a few minuets in posting.

Still, Brent, no, the report DIDN'T shatter anything Barr said. This report is filled with horrid slander against President Trump by Muller and his anti-Trump team.

New Report about Mike Flynn.

>the special council can not prove guilt, there for President Trump is INNOCENT.

Thats literally not how anything works. not proven guilty =/= innocent. Also, not charged criminally =/= did nothing wrong.

I'm going to give my two cents in because of that specific line.

Trump said "I'm fucked" BECAUSE people told him that "if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency. It takes years and years and I won't be able to do anything."

(Cont.)
So basically, lots of people are cherry picking that one specific line. Not even bothering to look into a little more context.

Oh would you look at this.

^ I'm glad that was settled. Was wondering if there was anything to buzzfeed's story. Wonder what happened to make buzzfeednews report it.

The most credible thing Trump could be charged with would be "solicitation to commit a crime" since he VERY clearly attempted to obstruct justice by trying to fire Mueller, and with the Trump tower meeting, you could even say he attempted to collude with russia.

Senator Richard Burr was implicated in Mueller's report, giving FBI investigation details to White House counsel.

Manafort, Kilimnik, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, polling data.

Sanakan, Trump's claims of "independent counsels won't let me do anything as President" is straight-up incorrect.

Look at all the damage he's done while under investigation. He could've done more if he wasn't obsessing over the investigation and concerned about his "Presidential time" to lie in bed and eat Big Macs.