As a professional web designer, it's dogshit.
As a person with eyes, it's a fucking abomination.
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As a professional web designer, it's dogshit.
As a person with eyes, it's a fucking abomination.
I hate having to keep deleting site data just to see the old layout.
I get that sites would update layouts to add quality of life adjustments and style, but the new layout here still hurts my eyes and is frustrating to use.
Changing the layout just for the sake of change is the worst way to go about it.
KEEP. THE. OLD. LAYOUT.
Part 2
Okay, to be honest, everything can be most easily summed up as; if something in the new UI differs in any way from the old site UI, assume it has issues/is wrong/ disliked/makes site navigation and use more difficult. This sounds like hyperbole but… the more I look the worse it gets. I’m listing the stuff I noticed since the last post but I bet if I really looked hard enough I could double this post’s length. "The first rule of intelligent tinkering is to save all the pieces."- Aldo Leopold. I will let the fact that so much is missing speak for itself.
Previous post with other issues that were immedatly obvious. This pot is for stuff that took a little bit to find.
Image Galleries
Image pages
Major issues summarized in image:
Compare the image pages on both site versions for this image:
I sure am glad a 16 Ă— 9 pixel image has been stretched so I can see all the details /s. The old version was inarguably superior.
Entries
The old site displays significantly more information in a much smaller space and is less painful to look at. To say old version was inarguable superior is an extreme understatement as to how bad the new version is.
Part 3
Search Pages
Example:
If I search “Tomberry” on the old site I get: [Entries (5)] [Images(56)] [Videos (6)] [News (0)] [Forums (3.1k)] [Other (2)]
None of these numbers are visible on the new UI, even if you click on the results page. Better yet, ZERO USERS are listed in the user results. Site error, and site functionality removed.
These are just gone. There isn’t even a way to filter this once you click the results page itself. This is especially important given the site can glitch and not show all the result pages when scrolling. Site functionality removed.
Frontpage
Sitewide/other
Thing I would complement the new design on but it’s too broken to actually use:
Okay, one thing I do legitimately like. This wasn’t obvious but it does help people who browse multiple windows at once/ do other things. When minimizing a window, thumbnail sizes shrink. Not only that, but the header options go from all being listed to a drop-down menu. This does help in some site functionality. However, this small improvement doesn’t justify anything else.
…
Unfortunately, even this is broken. Rolling over the images in the small tab view, the images actually jump out of the way, with new ones appearing. If I try to reach an image to roll-over it, very frequently, the image “runs away” before I can reach it and a new one takes its place.
Tiny improvement that I actually can't find issue with (yet?)
Images that are embedded in notes on an image page have the capacity to be larger and are now easier to see compared to the old UI. I feel this might be accidental, but it is something.
Can the staff focus on adding editable comments and the ability to revert dislikes rather than find new ways to fuck up the UI?
Still havent gotten the new UI, still cant see what everyones talking about
Steve wrote:
Still havent gotten the new UI, still cant see what everyones talking about
It's variable, sometimes you get it in one session, then in another it goes back.
Steve wrote:
Still havent gotten the new UI, still cant see what everyones talking about
literally just look at jill's posts in this thread, this has been documented extensively, with images and all
Sir Snakeboat wrote:
literally just look at jill's posts in this thread, this has been documented extensively, with images and all
its all on a white background though, it literally just merges with the website background, I dont know where the new ui begins or ends
Oh boy! We doing this again!
First off, I'd like to thank Jill for the amazing description and analysis because it saves me from wasting my already limited time on doing the same.
Second, the meme image I'm using is not without reason.
It really is like the Staff, or rather the completely out of touch executives at Literally Media just don't actually understand what makes KYM what it is, or what the community that visits wants or expects. Any, and I do mean any redesign will simply never be accepted. Ever. Especially when as it already is, the site still has unresolved issues and bugs.
Even less so when Staff has been making excuses about implementing the single most requested feature for over a decade now. Guess which feature I'm talking about.
Third, let's actually talk about Literally Media.
Go ahead, click that link at the bottom of the site, and then click on each of the websites.
Looks familiar? It should.
Here's my theory on what's actually going on here.
Someone, some executive there, decided that a redesign was in order, so as to "modernize" and "SEO optimize" and all of that usual corporate garbage. And that redesign was going to be applied to all the websites under the corporate umbrella.
Unfortunately, there's a bit of a snag here.
KYM kind of has an entrenched community. An actual community if you can believe it.
See, turns out KYM is by far the larger site of the group. In fact, I would even go as far a say that without KYM, Literally Media would've collapsed and shutdown long ago.
Cracked is the very, very distant second place.
What? Cracked has almost 3 million subs on youtube? Not a single video has broken 30k views in 10 months and the website barely has 1/20th the traffic of KYM. I can show you some less than 50k or 100k subs channels that regularly bust their sub count in views. These numbers are not signs of a healthy channel.
And the other sites are all doing even worse btw.
Cheezburger being at the bottom of the barrel when it used to be so much bigger is just sad. Remember when it was called The Cheezburger Network and it was that entity that acquired KYM?. It almost makes me wonder when it'll just be taken offline, not even a question of if.
Seriously, looking up all these numbers is hella depressing.
It's clear that at this point, KYM is above 80% of all of Literally Media's incoming traffic and revenue. That for some reason it's still below a corporate entity even though it's the single biggest part of it and so far above the others is just baffling. Know Your Meme should legitimately just buy itself out of it and leave the rest to rot. Just leave, so that the community doesn't have to deal with yet ungodly stupid and unwelcome change.
Here's the point, and message, I'm getting at.
A message that I'm addressing to someone in particular.
Don
Yes, Don.
I see you there, on the Literally Media executive team as the General Manager with Know Your Meme as your charge.
Please, tell whoever it is that keeps demanding and pushing these wildly unpopular changes that literally no one in the community asked for, even if it's you yourself:
Just stop. Please
Please don't.
whatever dumbass exec greenlit this website layout change needs to have a swift, merciless kick in the nuts and a lobotomy, because lord knows someone who's had one could EASILY make a better layout than this steaming pile of shit.
You should be ashamed of yourselves, making me look at that awful, near incomprehensible layout.
Been visiting the site for over 15 years now and gotta say this new layout is terrible, borderline unusable. Redesigns are good when they improve, bad when they degrade functionality. Change for the sake of change is the wrong approach when redesigning. It looks like a jumbled buzzfeed mess. Took me much longer to find and reach the content that I looked for.
Oh my christ who the fuck approved this layout? What is wrong with you??
Yeah definitely don't like it. Sorry, please revert as much of this as possible..
Jesus Christ, this layout is getting roasted harder than a well done beef. At least I've learned my lesson about subscribing to threads like these.
It doesn't even work, the upvote/downvote buttons don't register at all.
All images i try to press gets broken.
gallery repets the same 6 images over adn over again.
I'll return when the preoblem have been sorted out
The new layout has a lot of empty space and buttons that are far too large for no discernible reason.
"Minimalistic" modern UIs like this are awful on everything other than mobile phones.
This layout is absolutely horrible. If the idea is to make the site more mobile friendly then how about just making an optional mobile version like all the other big sites do. Or better yet, make an app.
Welp the site layout just changed for me today too. Am certainly not a fan of it and can see why people want to move on from here now. It's a bit ironic since not long ago, I remember posting about being against a website ui update, and and now that same problem has been repeated.
You can't even click on an image and have the comments be displayed at the same time.
The new layout is utter trash. Not only can I not see the comments on images, but it also really chugs when loading.
I still fondly remember the old layout. The one we had like ten years ago. Never got used to the current one, and now you're fucking that one up as well.
Great.
So now that I've had more than 5 minutes with this garbage, a few more comments.
Does KYM just… not have a testing / development environment? Why in the absolute fuck is a literally functionally broken website being pushed to live production?
I work in IT, I would literally get sacked instantly for delivering something like this.
Why are the comments literally broken?
Why is the site literally breaking and not loading half the time or exceedingly slow?
Why are the front page gallery headers not linked to their galleries?
Why is there no on:hover effects on almost anything?
Why is the "Go to gallery" an extremely small and unlabeled button that took way too long to find?
Why is the gallery formatting completely broken?
Why is there so much white space everywhere?
Where the fuck did image previews go????
And, since I brought up the other Literally Media owned websites in my previous comment:
Why are the new layouts for the websites just straight stolen from other news websites like CBC, BBC, Fox?
Yes, I checked. Because I can tell this is what the Literally Media administration ultimately wants. To try and get all the juicy clicks like those "proper" news sites.
At the risk of repeating myself, unfortunately, this is not what the community frequenting KYM is here for, this is not what the community wants, this is not what the community asked for.
The old layout was, for a measure of "good", much better than this. But as some others have mentioned as well, there are some like me who have been here long enough to remember the older layout, which was actually the best.
Revert this. Just stop.
It's only been like 10 minutes since I posted the previous message and I find even more broken shit that absolutely should not even be a thing on a live production website.
So the broken comments thing, for some reason the comment counter always seems to think that there's one (1) more comment than there actually is. So when there's no comments, it keeps showing (1) even though there aren't actually any. And if there are, it adds 1 to the counter. Yes, I went and counted comments on a few posts to check.
In an image post's notes, if there is an embedded image, well… The note's image can literally end up much bigger than the actual post, which is honestly just hilarious.
See this post as an example: https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2811562-vshojo
And one more:
Did you know you can now click on banned people's names with the new layout?
Yes, really. Something you couldn't do with the old layout because, you know, they were banned.
Is this the first instance of an actual added functionality with the new site? How wonderful!
I’ve been lucky so far that I haven’t seen the new layout when logging in on my computer (ah great, now that I’ve mentioned it, I fear the people who run this site will “fix” that for me. Me and my big mouth).
It seems to me that it only appears when I log in via my phone (sometimes it appears, other times it doesn’t), and yeah, it indeed does look terrible, and using the site is more complex.
I’m surprised that the new layout is being kept despite the backlash
Not a fan of the new layout. It just feels very cluttered, even when the writing isn't overlapping (which it does at several points). I feel like the organization emphasizes things I (and I suspect other users) don't use often and makes us search for the things we do frequently click. I just now attempted to click a "related entry" from an "explainer" and found it non-functional. Excessive ads often make the website unreadable. I like that the comments have been moved above the related entries, videos, images, etc. Like I said, the things we use most should be nearer the top and easy to spot and access. I like that the comments now more clearly show the upvotes and downvotes. I don't like that clicking "show more comments" is the only way to browse the comments. No longer being able to click a page number to see oldest comments or skip pages is inconvenient.
Overall, the new layout is harder to read and use.
Welp. There goes 10 years worth of muscle memory
what of Heck this new site design is not practical ,the web designer is not really good for knowyourmeme . we no longer see comments or likes, it’s awful and there are bugs
Just gonna post what I put in the KYM's discord, edits and all. If they can't be bothered, so can't I.
Okay first,
See Edit 1 ~stop rolling out UI changes without going through a test COMMUNITY group first or letting the users know en-mass like through a DM or a notice thing on the top of the page. I think there was a test drive at one point for an older site ui update-but I can't remember. That way you don't just get tons of people saying 'ew change it back' and get actual feedback.~
Now onto my reasons;
1- Its way too squished, everything looks too crowded and centered. If you're going to make something appealing to mobile users, make a separate one for them.
2- Its soulless, I don't know how to describe it more then that. It's just so bleak and I can't even tell if I've liked something or not which is a massive user feedback issue.
3- The site is somehow slower now, previous version was faster. Straight up.
4- For the front page, I most likely wouldn't be as grossed out if the top quick bar was added back. Made it easier to get where you wanted to go from as a common site user. If there is one thing to note about the front page, it needs to be de-cluttered, there are so many line breaks images, different sizing of articles all over the place. No, it needs to have a rhyme and reason. Not 'Random bullshit go!'.
5- The user icon is broken, most likely you are aware of it but I'm just noting it.
6- As noted, it's jarring to go from the new UI to the old UI on user pages. Unify these changes.
7- I can no longer get into the image page itself from the gallery with a simple click on the image itself, nor can I click off of it on the black part of the close-up image.
8- I do approve of the top image galleries taking you direct to the image galleries instead of to the meme page. That's a real good change.
9- As I look into entries, the site now suffers from the age old 'wasted space'. Again, I know this is a Mobile UI design, but keep those two separate. I know site design, I know you can do it.
That's about all from my immediate gut reaction, I know I am an oldie user and I have a bias, but some of these are actual issues like the slower site and UI Feedback. Hoping we can salvage this together, but I will vote on changing the UI back for now until this new one has had more time to cook.
Thank you.
Edits
1- Seems like there was a community tested one, but the awareness of it could had been far better spread.
2- Found the way to go back to the old site design as noted above, but ironically it isn't in the 'more' section from the quick bar, but in the hamburger button (the triple bars) which further obscures it.
When you're a website about "memes" and you can't actually find the pages talking about the "memes" due to horrendous design.
Meanwhile I'll probably migrate to another website hoping it's going to be corrected at some point.
In any cases, if you want to improve something for the design, "memes" and the "comment section" should be the main thing to focus so that people can easily find them.
"articles" and "news" should be secondary.
Part 4
Site layout on desktop changed back for me unprompted. Hoping that this is because issues were taken to heart and not because the people responsible were tired of me pointing out how actively worse it made the site.
Was slowly collecting more issues since the last post. Not as full yet and with luck I won't need to make a part 5. Still, since I already had it written up, I feel it would be a waste not to share them, though site screencaps are not able to be provided now.
Comments
Entries
Search Engine
Images
Tiny improvement that I actually can't find issue with (yet?) but is something I don't see anyone caring about.
I dont like it, it looks so alien and unwelcoming. It looks like an ugly web design from 2000s. Why anyone thought it even looks good? Maybe if they started a new site, then maybe.
Change it back or let it bake in the over for a few more month at very least, plz.
Hey… is it me or does somebody else having the issue of NO FEEDBACK whatsoever ? If I upvote a comment it doesnt have any feedback, the counter doesnt go up , no color changes, nothing.
when I move over the mouse on stuff it doesnt show anything, not even the page color changes… the stuff goes properly once I reload the page , but I am not reloading the page every time I wanna see if something actually worked
aditionally … a lot of textile quirks no longer work on the new layout.
I really just dislike everything about the new layout, the biggest thing is that so much of what's on screen was highlighted and considered important, when with the current layout main items we want to see are still the primary focus and get the most real estate.
When everything is important on the homepage, nothing is.
Ok so on mobile atleast i've now been struck by the new site layout, and the one thing i'll say on it is something that i don't think anyone's brought up yet; you can now see the upvote/downvote score without mousing over the thumbs up/down icon, which to my knowledge is impossible on mobile.
I'm not saying i think this new layout overall is a good thing, but atleast it seemed to do something right i guess
it finally effected in my end today. and wow, it looks like shit.
is there some form of settings in which I can change it back because I can't find it on my profile account.
[edited]
nevermind, I found it on the main header on the site. but seriously, is it even there instead of the user's own setting options? is the spaghetti code is that bad?
Thanks I hate it.
the web designer is not really good ,we no longer see comments or likes,the amateurism of the site designed at the beginning of 2000 by its design of the site it is still very buggy
malerfique wrote:
the web designer is not really good ,we no longer see comments or likes,the amateurism of the site designed at the beginning of 2000 by its design of the site it is still very buggy
the like buttons and the dis-like buttons under comment under image its bug also
Absolute cancer
The old Ui was intuitive and displayed everything in an organized, easy to read way.
The new one has absurdly large thumbnail scaling and wayyy too many in-site ads
WHAT'S THIS HOW DO I GO BACK
to the guy who designed this, fuck you.
Finally came to my account.
KYM is the site I migrated to after Cracked was ruined, and now it's turning into the same kind of shitty tabloidesque site.
I'm so tired of the enshittification of the internet, I'm running out of sites to frequent because they turn into unsightly, cumbersome abominations.
the team manages the site which you do something to repair the site it's been 12 days since the site was buggy and fix the problems which are How to vote does not work, the pages sometimes take a minute to load for no apparent reason, I like/dislike" does not work under comments, and the pages do not load at all and the profile page comments on them does not work
I'm just seeing this update today. I can't really overstate how bad this is. This new layout basically makes the site unusuable from this point forward, and it also looks like complete trash. Like the entire thing now looks like some kind of auto-generated spam-link website. I'm not averse to some change and updates with the times but this change is so awful that if it's really staying like this then I'm just going to have to quit using the site from this point forward. That's not great for a place I've been coming back to for over a decade but in its current form it might as well just go offline.
Oh would you look at that I can no longer sort image searches or galleries by number of likes, bang-up job on the redesign mods. /s
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