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I'M NOT IMPERIALIST, I'M JUST TERRITORIALLY DISADVANTAGED.

I want a piece of that Canada pie when it gets sliced.

Because future imperialist expansion into the Americas or as RF put it, "territorially disadvantaged" expansion into the Americas.

(Ignore the fact that this is a photo Cecil John Rhodes related to Imperialism in Africa.)

Alright then, I guess I shall do my best not to die out until then so that I can provide you all with a challenging war when you come to eat me.

I think we can wait it out.

But you're a horde. Soon you'll be a bunch of small, underpowered tribes that will endlessly fight each other. You'll be weakened by infighting, and then Prometheus and Madcat will come in and destroy all of the American nations. The best thing to do in my opinion is concentrate yourself into a large union, and whoever secedes from such a union will probably just die out because of lack of manpower.

That is actually close to one of the 100's of options I have been trying to decide on.

So let me get this straight. You don't even have an established government because you've been conquering so much?

You definitely need to unionise the Mertolan Horde. If all goes well, everyone would have to join the union, or else they'd starve/be conquered/not be as advanced as the union.

@Vlad: you lazy bastard.

Well I'm going to bed, so I'll see you all next turn.

Why don't we all just claim parts of America right now so when get there we just go to our proclaimed areas and avoid a big war over it; I'll start: I claim Everything from México to Panama and the Caribbean islands.

In that case, I claim every single part under the fog.

@Mister J

You're going to have to fight me for South America.

I'll take the entire West coast.

Will that be OK with you?

The entire thing, eh?

So, question to Syndic. Who are the three most powerful nations at this point, considering everything including allies and enemies.

I DECLARE A PEACE TREATY BETWEEN THE VULCAN PEOPLES AND THE FALCONI

Um, yeah. I figured we both kinda lost our homelands, so we kind of have common ground. I'll get back England, and he's kind of taking over Scotland, so Brittainia will be a two sided island of Friendship!

I thought we were friends…

Sure

we ARE friends.

I don't think claiming parts of the Americas is going to prevent wars. It will probably escalate our problems when we get there.

Okay, given the circumstances, I understand.

But I still don't like Vulcan.

Considering military power, technology, distance from the wars, and the power of their neighbors, here is my opinion of which nations are the most powerful.

Out of the player nations only:

1) Cattonia – Technologically powerful and far from strong neighbors.

2) Prometheus – Has a large military potential and the greatest population, but internal issues have made them a bit weaker.

3) Angmar – Stable, far from the fighting, and allied with the most powerful NPC.

Including NPCs:

1) Byzantium: Largest army, most technologically advanced, and has the greatest potential for expansion. Having a very hard time corralling Italy though.

2) Cattonia – As stated above, powerful and far from strong neighbors.

3) The Franks – Neighboring a lot of weaker nations, and will soon have the brilliant leadership of Charles Martel, Pepin the Short, and Charlemagne.

what are the 3 WEAKEST nations?

Thanks Syndic, I'll definitely keep away from Europe for the time being.

I'm going to say your nation, the Vulcans and Rossiya. All three of you are lacking land.

But I'm building a very strong military, plus I'm quite technologically advanced.

You haven't sent a turn in two days. And I'm writing it right now. You might wanna get on that if you don't want to be penalized.

Done.

Technology aside, look at the amount of land your nation occupies. See where I'm coming from?

Well, that will change once I conquer the two little nations above me.

You need land, I need more military power. We need to get to work.

Oh! Oh! Would you like to be trade-allies?

I already have a trading route going to Prometheus so you'll have to ask Vlad to reach his trading out to you.

Okay, but I'll have to do so next turn. Should be fine though, I've already sent in requests for trade with both the Sassanid and Byzantine empires.

My greatest fear is that I'm not hauling enough ass.

Don't worry Witch-King, once I conquer Media and Arran we will be connected again, and I can provide both military and verbal support.

The Mongols will stomp us. There is no hope.

True that.

Honestly, I'd just like to find a comfortable niche where I'll be satisfied with my size, then just focus on getting better techwise. And I really don't care of what you think of me, WK.

So any general discussion while awaiting the next turn?

Are we still allies?

Shit, my turn is probably too late; now my country is sure to implode.

When do the Turks come in and take the Byzantine Empire?

I don't see why not, but I'm currently over in India (see a little brown speck on the map) helping Mr. J.

@Fridge/Vulcan: The comment was an off-hand second-person remark in a separate conversation directed at another party. As such, no matter how silly it may sound as it may share the appearance of a shallow attempt at "One-upping you", I don't particularly value your feelings on the subject of my opinion.

@Quaker: Several turns, I'd imagine. They come in after the Mongols.

@Everybody: The Mongols will affect us all. They'll push some more forces into already tight Europe, and claim the entire Asian and Middle Eastern lands.

Thoughts?

@Witch-King
I'm in Africa, the Mongols won't touch me. u mad europe?