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The Chris-Chan Dilemma

Last posted Aug 23, 2016 at 04:06PM EDT. Added Jul 30, 2016 at 01:09AM EDT
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It seems to me that the KYM community is showing some humanity to Chris-chan. I'm quite shock that his crazy antics with his suppose "vagina" could lead to his death. I can't believe we're falling into this situation, but I just want your guys thoughts on this fiasco, and maybe news on what's going on right now.

I'll just copy what I posted in the comments:
I wish no harm on Chris-Chan. Ideally, he would snap out of it and seek serious help. But I don’t feel sorry for him and don’t feel bad about watching his antics. This is all on him. He wants attention and he’s getting it in the worst way possible.

I think this whole thing is ludicrous. He's become so delusional, that he can't tell the difference of an infection and a vagina. But I'm a bit worried he'll die of septic shock. I'm no medical expert, but I'm pretty sure that's what will happen.

I've always thought that the story of Chris-Chan would end horribly, its the only outcome other than some slight chance he'd come to his senses and get off the internet.

For those who don't know, Chris-Chan got a piecing on his "taint" (the perineum/area between testicles and anus) because he believed that's where the clitoris would be if he were a woman, and the piecing would stimulate a lesbian partner during sex. Chris, not known for his hygiene, let it get infected, tried to re-pierce it with a safety pin, ran into issues with it staying open and uninfected, and eventually gave up on it.

Fast-forward two years to the present: Chris announced that through hypnosis videos on youtube, he's magically growing a vagina in the same place that the infected piercing was. (There are pics of it if you're into that kind of thing). People on his facebook page have told him to get it checked out by a doctor, Chris said he did and the doctor said "It is coming in good" and that it is normal-looking. Chris also believes it will finish growing in "a few months."

In reality, its obvious that this is an infected wound that has been festering for two years, and it could easily become (or already may be) gangrenous and cause septic shock. So Chris very well may die from this latest hijinx.

TL;DR - Chris believes he's growing a Vagina, its really just an infected wound on his taint and it might kill him

If you want more info just search "un-clit 2.0" on the CWCwiki

I always figured the whole "tomgirl" phase, transitioning into a "lesbian-identified male", only to transition into a self-identified "female" was another one of Chris's crazy antics to get sex/girlfriend/whatever is on his mind now.

I don't know why people are concerned for Chris. He's been doing stupid, self-damaging shit to himself for years. His family, the few "friends" he's had, even random anonymous internet users have been trying to save Chris from the pit he's digging himself into. It hasn't worked. You can't help someone who refuses to help himself.

It's almost surreal; I was a teenager in high school when I learned about this awkward, stuttering turbo-nerd excitedly babbling about his "electric-hedgehog pokemon". The delusions of grandeur were heavy. That was in 2008. Now, in 2016, I look at him and I wonder who or what exactly opened the Pandora's Box of demented shit that is Christian Weston Chandler's psyche. Was it Bob's death? Was it because he burned down his own house? Could it have been the constant, failed efforts of finding a "boyfriend-free girlfriend to raise from the ground up"? Did a particular troll push too hard?

The Pendulum has been swinging over Chris's head for years. His refusal to grow up, get a job and take responsibility of his actions has been slowly coming back to haunt him. Bob's safety net has run out. Barb is wasting away, physically and mentally (compare the most recent video of her to videos of her several years ago). If an infected taint doesn't kill Chris, attrition will.

Deep down we are all very amused by these developments. It's Chris-chan, internet degeneracy legend, and doomed to fuck up his life soon enough. It's gross, but are we truly suprised?

Should he seek medical attention? Yes. But if he's not going to, then I'm not going to arse and will be amused by this like any Chris story. Darwin Awards exist for a reason.

Steve wrote:

oh god, i saw him in a video where he masturbated with it and came out of it.
truly disgusting.

That wasn't Chris. I saw the video too and it was super fucked up, but it wasn't Chris. Where the Un-clit 2.0 is (near his butt) isn't really an area where that sort of fluid could come out. If I also remember right, that was a guy with no dick or something? Chris hasn't gone that far, I can affirm that.

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Sorry for double-posting but I think I now what might be going on with Chris right now concerning his…health.
Chris said that recently he's been listening to hypnosis videos so that way he could grow a vagina. I think those videos might be affecting him.
I think he legitimately believes that open sore is a vagina. Like to him the way it looks and feels completely resembles one, but to us…well it's pretty obvious what we think.
I think if Chris stops listening to those videos then he might come to his senses and might actually feel the pain that sore is causing. Because from what people describe the wound being the only way Chris can't feel it is either because he's under hypnosis or he's on something like morphine.

{ because he believed that’s where the clitoris would be if he were a woman }

ok well that's very incorrect, our clit is roughly where your dick is.
Is this why guys have so much trouble finding it?

I don't know anything about the guy but that was a wild read from start to end. Sounds like the kind of person who should be involuntarily committed, and if he's self-neglecting a serious wound there's a fairly strong chance a judge would sign that order. idk why the fuck his family has not if he's living with them.

lisalombs wrote:

{ because he believed that’s where the clitoris would be if he were a woman }

ok well that's very incorrect, our clit is roughly where your dick is.
Is this why guys have so much trouble finding it?

I don't know anything about the guy but that was a wild read from start to end. Sounds like the kind of person who should be involuntarily committed, and if he's self-neglecting a serious wound there's a fairly strong chance a judge would sign that order. idk why the fuck his family has not if he's living with them.

That's because his father's dead and his mother's basically non-responsive at this point.
He's effectively living by himself.
None of his other family members ever talk to him. Even his half-brother.

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Tyranid Warrior #1024649049375 wrote:

Sorry for double-posting but I think I now what might be going on with Chris right now concerning his…health.
Chris said that recently he's been listening to hypnosis videos so that way he could grow a vagina. I think those videos might be affecting him.
I think he legitimately believes that open sore is a vagina. Like to him the way it looks and feels completely resembles one, but to us…well it's pretty obvious what we think.
I think if Chris stops listening to those videos then he might come to his senses and might actually feel the pain that sore is causing. Because from what people describe the wound being the only way Chris can't feel it is either because he's under hypnosis or he's on something like morphine.

IRL hypnosis can only go so far. He might have managed to put himself into a trance that could theoretically dull some of the pain, but the hypnosis wouldn't have been able to change the way he sees things. At its best, hypnosis only strengthens preexisting ideas and desires; if he hypnotized himself into believing the sore is a vagina he already believed that on some level. More than likely, the major factor here is just incredible self-delusion on top of his preexisting mental issues.

{ That’s because his father’s dead and his mother’s basically non-responsive at this point. }

That's sad. It's sad that the rest of his family wont help him. Does he have some sort of mental deficiency, should he even be on his own? He could get a state-assigned guardian if he's unfit to look after himself but not enough to be committed. Then they could get him in an assisted living facility, at least. But there's nothing the government can do for him until he gets into legal trouble, unless a family member intervenes.

I honestly feel sad for the dude. Yes, he has brought on himself most of the things that have happened to him, but now it just really concerning. People are legit trying to help him out but he just doesn't care. I'm 100% sure that if his parents weren't such assholes and gave him the help and education he so needed, we wouldn't know the Chris-Chan we know today.

lisalombs wrote:

{ That’s because his father’s dead and his mother’s basically non-responsive at this point. }

That's sad. It's sad that the rest of his family wont help him. Does he have some sort of mental deficiency, should he even be on his own? He could get a state-assigned guardian if he's unfit to look after himself but not enough to be committed. Then they could get him in an assisted living facility, at least. But there's nothing the government can do for him until he gets into legal trouble, unless a family member intervenes.

He lives with his mom, and he has been in trouble before; he got arrested because he assaulted a gamestop employee because sonic the hedgehog had blue arms in one of the new games

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lisalombs wrote:

{ That’s because his father’s dead and his mother’s basically non-responsive at this point. }

That's sad. It's sad that the rest of his family wont help him. Does he have some sort of mental deficiency, should he even be on his own? He could get a state-assigned guardian if he's unfit to look after himself but not enough to be committed. Then they could get him in an assisted living facility, at least. But there's nothing the government can do for him until he gets into legal trouble, unless a family member intervenes.

He has high functioning autism, but the main problems with him come from how he was raised.
Basically he's never had to look out for himself and had everything handed to him. He's only worked at two jobs, neither of which lasted very long. He gets his income from welfare, or what he calls, "the monthly tugboat."
He has gotten into trouble with the law before. At first he was just banned from many places (the mall, Target, Walmart, etc.), but I guess what you could call "recently" he ran over the owner of a game shop because he wouldn't lift the ban on him. The owner only sued for the cost of his medical bill, primarily because he felt sorry for Chris and didn't want him to get a felony on his record.
Chris's response to this generosity: " I don't think that thieving/bribing liar deserves a red cent!"

Then we come to the present with the infamous "Don't Call Anyone" situation where he pepper-sprayed a Gamestop employee. He was sent to jail for a couple of days, and after the court hearing I believe he had to see a psychiatrist for his mental problems. Judging by his actions now, I say the psychiatrist hasn't helped.
Also it should come to no surprise that his mother bailed him out of all these situations, or at least attempted to.

It's also theorized that Chris has some other mental disorders ranging from schizophrenia to narcissistic personality disorder.

At this rate, I don't view CWC as autistic anymore. I see him as a schizophrenic or someone with worse mental illness. This guy has been a complete nutjob since he made his debut on the Internet. As a matter of fact, I feel bad for his family more than I do about CWC. Should Chan die and the trolls mock the death, I suggest either the family sue some of the sites that "documented" Chan's life (if that's even possible) or go into hiding via witness protection like get a name change.

lisalombs wrote:

{ That’s because his father’s dead and his mother’s basically non-responsive at this point. }

That's sad. It's sad that the rest of his family wont help him. Does he have some sort of mental deficiency, should he even be on his own? He could get a state-assigned guardian if he's unfit to look after himself but not enough to be committed. Then they could get him in an assisted living facility, at least. But there's nothing the government can do for him until he gets into legal trouble, unless a family member intervenes.

He's reputedly a "high-functioning" autistic. He gets disability insurance (or, as he calls it, his "monthly tugboat". In the recent past, he's spent most, if not all, of his "tugboat" on video games, body pillows, toys, etc.

His family has tried to help him. It hasn't worked. You might consider it sad that that his family won't help him, but the fact of the matter is that Chris has basically chased them all away. Also, bear in mind that Chris's parents, Bob and Barb, were/are as demented, self-absorbed and delusional as the child they raised.

He has the ability to fend for himself; he simply chooses not to.

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chowzburgerz wrote:

At this rate, I don't view CWC as autistic anymore. I see him as a schizophrenic or someone with worse mental illness. This guy has been a complete nutjob since he made his debut on the Internet. As a matter of fact, I feel bad for his family more than I do about CWC. Should Chan die and the trolls mock the death, I suggest either the family sue some of the sites that "documented" Chan's life (if that's even possible) or go into hiding via witness protection like get a name change.

You say that like his family besides his mom hadn't already disowned him and completely cut him out of their lives.

Black Graphic T wrote:

You say that like his family besides his mom hadn't already disowned him and completely cut him out of their lives.

I really don't know much about his parents. I know his dad died and that his mom has been abusive in some ways. However, if Chris does die, would the trolls go after his mom now and give her the same treatment Chris got throughout those years?

chowzburgerz wrote:

I really don't know much about his parents. I know his dad died and that his mom has been abusive in some ways. However, if Chris does die, would the trolls go after his mom now and give her the same treatment Chris got throughout those years?

Not likely. Barbara is not the one going on social media and the internet. She is just an old woman.

Black Graphic T wrote:

This is why there should be laws that allow some people to be committed, even if it's against their will.

They do. If a person is deemed to be a threat to themselves or others they can be checked into a mental hospital with mandated therapy. In this case it's pretty apparent that Chris is a danger to himself and probably would indeed end up in a mental hospital if someone alerted the authorities.


Also, I've seen a few people saying they think he has schizophrenia, but I don't think that's the case. Now I'm not a professional psychiatric doctor by any means, so take this with a grain of salt, but I have taken enough psychology courses to know that it likely isn't schizophrenia (at least not based on the details we've been given). In all likelihood it's probably a case of extreme gender dysphoria (obviously to the point of genital mutilation) and possibly some other psychotic disorder other than schizophrenia.

Like I said though, I'm by no means a professional and even professionals require multiple in-depth sessions to diagnose mental disorders. That being said, no one on this site should be saying he has schizophrenia unless they happen to be professional clinical psychologists and have met him and interviewed him in person.

chowzburgerz wrote:

I really don't know much about his parents. I know his dad died and that his mom has been abusive in some ways. However, if Chris does die, would the trolls go after his mom now and give her the same treatment Chris got throughout those years?

I honestly don't see Barbara outliving Chris.
Sure, Chris is slowly killing himself, but in the last few videos he made Barbara has basically been non-responsive. I'll be surprised if she actually lives to the end of the year.
As for the rest of the family, I don't think they'll be hassled by most "mature" trolls. Yes, probably some of the weens will fuck with them by calling them and shouting "JULAY!" in the phone, but other than that I don't see very much else happening after Chris's death.

@Crimeariver
I'm in no way an expert on psychology but to me it seems like there's more than one major problem going on with Chris.
First, we got his autism. That much is obvious.
Another disorder I think Chris may have might be Narcissistic Personality Disorder. It doesn't show up as much now but in his early years on the internet it should up a lot. Some examples include his massive ego, his lack of empathy (but it could be caused by autism), his arrogance, his self-importance, and his fantasies of ultimate power.
I think your idea of gender dysphoria is right but it's only manifested recently (i.e. the beginning of the Tomgirl saga)
I also think he might have manifested a small case of schizophrenia after his constant attacks by the trolls.
I'm no expert on this in any way, but with my limited knowledge I think I can say that there is at least more than one problem here.

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Call me a psycho or a-log, but If he does die from his "Vagina Growing" , it would be perhaps one of the greatest examples of TV Trope's "Hoist by his own Petard" trope ever.

On a more serious, admittingly slightly more empathetical note, a friend of mine wants to make a chris chan movie in the style of borat, while we initially planned to give at most 50% of the cash earned to chandler himself[as a bit of an experiment to see what he'd spend what would be perhaps a few million] but if he ends up dying before hand I'll likely give the money to his family and other lolcows

Joey Corleone wrote:

Call me a psycho or a-log, but If he does die from his "Vagina Growing" , it would be perhaps one of the greatest examples of TV Trope's "Hoist by his own Petard" trope ever.

On a more serious, admittingly slightly more empathetical note, a friend of mine wants to make a chris chan movie in the style of borat, while we initially planned to give at most 50% of the cash earned to chandler himself[as a bit of an experiment to see what he'd spend what would be perhaps a few million] but if he ends up dying before hand I'll likely give the money to his family and other lolcows

>implying TV Tropes invented the term "hoisted by his own petard"

I would strongly suggest not giving Chris any money. The dude's in financial trouble for a reason, and if he was given the hypothetical few million dollars he would probably spend it on the predictable: video games, porn, Lego, etc. The same goes for giving to his family and other lolcows. At this point his only family is his near-dead mother, and giving random lolcows money is just as bad as giving it to Chris.

Chris can will never get better, let's just get that out of the way..
Most of the "improvement" we've been sering is him putting on a mask in the hopes we might give him money.
Though I'm not denying he has matured, he really has. he's still the same dumbass as in 2009. Only slightly more self aware.

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Precious Roy wrote:

>implying TV Tropes invented the term "hoisted by his own petard"

I would strongly suggest not giving Chris any money. The dude's in financial trouble for a reason, and if he was given the hypothetical few million dollars he would probably spend it on the predictable: video games, porn, Lego, etc. The same goes for giving to his family and other lolcows. At this point his only family is his near-dead mother, and giving random lolcows money is just as bad as giving it to Chris.

For the record, Again. that's why I'd give it to him. I wanna see him blow a few mil on stupid shit lol.

Surma wrote:

Chris can will never get better, let's just get that out of the way..
Most of the "improvement" we've been sering is him putting on a mask in the hopes we might give him money.
Though I'm not denying he has matured, he really has. he's still the same dumbass as in 2009. Only slightly more self aware.

I never thought he would get better, again, I just wanted to see him waste the money humorously.

I never thought that Chris would go far to the point where he not only pierces one "particular spot" on his body which results into an infection, but also thinks that it is a vagina.

It's not even funny anymore. it's disturbing. I feel sorry for Chris, I wish he could get better, even after his questionable actions, but no matter what is done, he will never realise his mistakes…

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Tyranid Warrior #1024649049375 wrote:

I remember recently I mailed Chris a Starbucks $15 gift card. I'm not sure if he's used it yet. I'm also not sure if he even likes coffee.
I wouldn't be surprised if he attempted to use it somewhere else though.

Didn't his house burn down while he tried to make coffee?

Beatie wrote:

Um… what exactly is happening with CWC this time? I read something about his "vagina"-thing getting infected and I'm kinda scared to look it up now

What he thinks is a vagina is actually in fact a festering, infected wound. The thing is, though, he refuses to go see a doctor about it. With how bad people say the wound looked, he could possibly get septic shock, and that's fucking deadly.

Tyranid Warrior #1024649049375 wrote:

What he thinks is a vagina is actually in fact a festering, infected wound. The thing is, though, he refuses to go see a doctor about it. With how bad people say the wound looked, he could possibly get septic shock, and that's fucking deadly.

I never knew how legitimately insane CWC was until I read this. I mean… just… why? Does he really think that he can survive not treating an infected wound? Does he really think leaving a goddamn molding gash on his crotch is fine? Is he trying to prove something? Like what lots of us here say, I want to feel sorry for him, but he's almost literally digging his own grave now and all he need to do is seek medical attention.

I hate to say it, but… this might the end for him. Unless he somehow wakes up and faces the mistakes he's made for once in his life, he could make it, but let's be real here…

Beatie wrote:

I never knew how legitimately insane CWC was until I read this. I mean… just… why? Does he really think that he can survive not treating an infected wound? Does he really think leaving a goddamn molding gash on his crotch is fine? Is he trying to prove something? Like what lots of us here say, I want to feel sorry for him, but he's almost literally digging his own grave now and all he need to do is seek medical attention.

I hate to say it, but… this might the end for him. Unless he somehow wakes up and faces the mistakes he's made for once in his life, he could make it, but let's be real here…

That's one big problem about Chris-Chan. People want to feel sympathetic to him, but then goes and does stuff like…this.
What I can't comprehend is if that wound is infected, wouldn't it hurt like hell? Especially since he's not keeping a bandage or anything on it.
I feel like at this point Barbara stands a good chance of outliving Chris, because once septic shock sets in, you're pretty much doomed because at that point the infection would've spread like a literal cancer throughout your whole body.
One thing Chris really needs to hope is that he doesn't get necrotizing fasciitis, because with his poor hygiene combined with his obesity and this gaping wound on his crotch, he stands a very good chance of getting it. And let me tell you, it's a lot more painful than septic shock, primarily because you don't die as quickly from it.
(I know a lot of medical terminology because one of my relatives is a doctor. I showed him this and he was flabbergasted that not only did Chris let it get this bad, but that he already hasn't suffered septic shock.)

Edit: I've been doing some more reading on this, and one theory that popped up about this is that Chris actually inflicted this wound on himself by cutting his taint open. Honestly though, I feel like this idea is a little far-fetched because I think Chris is too much of a wuss to actually inflict harm upon himself.
However, I did read something else where due to Chris's myriad of other health problems, he might miss the signs of onset of septic shock due to how he already experiences all the symptoms, and won't actually notice he has it until he's at death's door. It might be possible he already has it.

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Honestly, I'm not even sure how I feel about Chris anymore. Part of me thinks he has become so incompetent that he can no longer be held responsible for his actions. Another part of me thinks he's just an idiot and the architect of his own misfortune. Yet another part thinks he's no longer in control, but if he had bothered to develop coping skills when he was at least semi-competent, he wouldn't have fallen this far.

I'll admit laughing at him doesn't come as naturally as it used to.

It's not possible to help Chris out at this point. He has dug his own grave and it's impossible for him to get out of the scenario and life he's living. He is essentially a child in an adult's body and it is impossible to for him to even care about improving his life and acting like an actual person. As Sachumo, the creator of the CWC documentary has said, seeing Chris do stuff is like watching a car crash in slow-motion – it's bad to look at, but you can't help but watch.

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