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I'll be frank with you, FrankRay:

1. Who are you to tell KYM and its userbase what they can and can't do?

2. This site is for the documentation and research of memes and other internet phenomena (or at least that's what the official label says). Political leanings usually don't factor into the creation and maintenance of resultant entries.

3. Coverage of events or people (such as those associated with the alt-right) or memes associated/related to them does not mean we support them. Again, see my previous point.

4. KYM is what KYM is. What it becomes is what the staff and the userbase make it.

5. If your problem is with Cheezburger posting/propagating these memes, take it up with them, not just us.

2) Thise memes are fine. Just not the alt-right.

Then I suppose that you'd rather KYM suppress anything political and deviate from its primary objectives? Again, this site is for the documentation and research of memes and internet phenomena, political leanings be damned.

4) They can do what they want. I’m offering my opinion

"Get the alt-right memes off your website." is not offering an opinion. It is an imperative. It is a command/demand.

Memebase really wants to get out of the alt-right business sooner rather than later.

Do you have evidence of this or is this a suggestion to Cheezburger?

1) Hey nice, so are we

2) Memes are memes.

3) Not documenting memes of a particular topic is exactly the same as implying it doesn't exist.

4) They will be looking into whoever instigates violence, not whoever posts le funniee pikturs

5) Being a twitchy prat

Take your same logic for nazi domestic terrorists and apply it to ISIS.
Is a Meme still just a Meme when it's ISIS?

Yes actually, we have plenty of ISIS memes! Take a look around.

Definition of meme

1: an idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a culture
Memes (discrete units of knowledge, gossip, jokes and so on) are to culture what genes are to life. Just as biological evolution is driven by the survival of the fittest genes in the gene pool, cultural evolution may be driven by the most successful memes. -- Richard Dawkins

A meme involving ISIS is a meme. ISIS itself, however, is not a meme. (Please take note of the categorization of the respective linked entries.)

THIS (for Point 2 and 3). This site is about documenting memes, it'll pretty much take them all into account. As A-Train says, covering an event or person or meme doesn't mean you support it, documenting it just means you tell people what this thing is and where it comes from.

If OP is serious about being bothered by Alt-Right memes, either ignore them or bring it up with the owners/group that owns this site.

Charlottesville changed the rules.
Godwin's Law has been suspended.
Being against nazis is the new way.
Get used to it.

This site will work like always, posting memes from every political side there is, wherever you like it or not. So you get used to it or just stop visiting this site.

1) Can your provide concrete evidence of this occurring, especially in regards to KYM or similar websites? (Please remember to provide your sources.)

2) If the documentation of a (negative) event, idea, or person is criminal enough to warrant investigation or other related actions, then, by that logic, the FBI/DHS/NSA should also suppress information and memes related to similar (negative) actions (i.e. slavery, forced native relocation, etc.); they should raid every library and website and rid them of such "vile and heretical" information.

ABSOLUTELY WRONG
This site will bow before public opinion just like anything that depends on the public for financial support. They have customers; they have advertisers with customers. THAT is the bottom line.
Scrubbing nazis from this site is inevitable; they can not avoid it, only delay it.
Eventually the spotlight will fall to them.
How long before "what about the kids?' becomes the topic and people start looking in chan, cheezburger, reddit?
How long before the CEO of Cheezburger is talking to Anderson Cooper?
They may as well scrub the place now before it hurts, rather than wait.

1. CITATION, PLEASE.

2. You already invoked Godwin's Law with your first post. You cannot suspend it.

3. NO, REALLY? It's not like they've been popularly vilified for the past 75 years or something.

4.

History not only shows us the feats of man, but also our faults. Suppression of information of our faults will only lead us and our posterity to repeat them.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." – George Santayana

A-train
1-3) I will not engage you in a teenage meme circle jerk "battle'.
4) I am extremely serious.

Good. On that note, I highly suggest that you please man up and provide sourced concrete evidence for your claims.

(I must apologize for any subsequent response delay as I must leave for work as of this posting. I'd be willing to engage with you on the topic later if you are willing.)

OP doesn't realize that the site hosts everything up to including dancing Stalin gifs, picardia images making jokes about genocide and political mass murder, screen caps of incel rape fantasies, tweets about murdering white guys for the funsies, and loss edits.

0/10 go to gulag, comrade

Dude just because I disagree with the Alt-Shite on damn near everything doesn't mean I can't post and talk about their memetic content on the internet, lol ???

Dammit Eglamore, can't you see he's serious? He's about to shit fury over our politically-neutral website!

Certain people have overplayed their hand. In their quest to offend everyone for the lols they have gotten in bed with actual nazis. Bad mistake.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Now the light of the world will illuminate the dark corners.
There will be a line drawn.
Any website on the wrong side is going to be shut down. Not by the government, not by anonymous, not by a mob, but by the American consumer.
Public pressure will force their hand. You may say what you want, however, no one needs host your words. Domains will be taken. People will be left to passing out pamphlets on street corners (which is their right)
It has already started a few days ago. Haven't you noticed?
Cheezburger wants to make sure they are not lumped in erroneously when the lumping starts.

Oh my god. I get it now.
HE'S the petty ghost everyone is complaining about

Cheezburger no longer owns this site, you swine.

Honestly, I do not understand your point. Saying to take alt-right or any sort of political memes out of a meme documentation site is like saying that wikipedia should take down their articles on Hitler's rise to power.
The site aims to document, which does not mean endorsing the content. If anything, we are the source of information that aims to be reliable and neutral.

I'm sorry not sorry I offend people who want to post offensive things while also wanting people like me to not have come-backs and snaps.

This thread just pointing out the reality of the situation.
A laissez-faire attitude with regards to nazis is the same thing as being indifferent to ISIS. It's just not going to fly under the radar anymore.
Again, the alt-right is going to spoil many many many websites with their inflammatory comments.
If you're not alt-right nazis maybe then just agree that they should have no place here, and then we can agree to disagree about whether they are here or not?
That would save us many back-and-forth posts.

We are a context-providing site. We host images that have their place in their respective entries, and the entries are both the documentation and the context for a meme.

Also, since it's general and not serious discussion, I won't even get into how intellectually and philosophically derelict your definitions, thought process and examples are.

I refuse to leave. :)

Exhibit A.
While this guy, who from his post appears to be self-identifying as an alt-right nazi, has a right to feel how he feels, other people don't have an obligation to give him a platform.
Websites need to realize that care must be taken when the codes and meme images for nazis are being posted in comments sections etc just like care must be taken against the coded messages of radical islamic terrorists.
They are the same now. Public sentiment shifted a few days ago.

Now, of course the overwhelming chances are, this guy is just pretending he's an alt-right nazi just for the derail factor.
But what he needs to see is that it's the same as pretending to be a jihadist for the lols.
You can't do that anymore because other people have actually gone so far as to actually join up with the actual nazis.
I mean you can do that, but it's a bad move if you are, say, a company that likes to be in business.

The nazi hat in his avatar is like an ISIS flag in your avatar.
Memebase – listen to me – you can not allow that anymore.
Realize now, not later.

There's something on this site called a karma button.
Use it. See a picture you don't like? Just downvote it and move on.

When it's not played as a joke I legitimately get offended by communist stuff. However, I know the stuff about it here is in jest (at least used to be anyway). That same thing applies for the Nazi and KKK stuff here. It's a joke.

If you don't like the joke, then downvote it, leave a comment on why you don't like it if you have to, but then just be done with it.

I am appealing to Memebase.
I understand your position, though I disagree with it.
I'm showing them that it's not a joke.
They need to realize that fact before the media begins to scour the internet for the outlets for modern American nazism for the next Prime Time Special which they are seconds away from doing.
They will be looking at "memes".
That's you, Memebase.
Clean house.

My man's nazi avatar won't be so funny on Rachel Maddow's top story.
That can't be allowed here, just like an ISIS flag avatar can't be allowed here.
I am hopelessly outnumbered on this forum so upvoting won't save me, besides I'm not trying to convince you. But do realize that out in the real world, mine is the majority opinion with regard to nazis.

Whoeva den!
The important thing to realize is that right at this very moment someone at the Huffington Post or VICE News is probably reading this forum, just as you are, and deciding if there is an angle here for a story.

I feel like you're a little paranoid there.

They've been kicking off sites that are known to be places where neo-nazis and racists congregate like the Dailystormer. You can pretty much tell at a glance what they support.

If you just glanced around here, you'll see that, out of anything, people here seem to be in support of softcore porn and dog memes.

I'm pretty sure VICE or the Huffington Post would rather deal with sites that actually are made up primarily of neo-nazis and racists before they start targeting random meme sites.

That's the obvious first look that has already happened. A certain website that shall not be named just had their domain taken.
But what about the second look?
Nazis THEMSELVES admit ON CAMERA that they filter this stuff down through the digestive tract of the MemeMonster and finally end up in places like this – a place where children come to see cute kitty cat gifs.
The question of "what about the children!!!11!" is bound to come up any second now.
Allowing a guy to have a nazi avatar allows for an argument to be made that this website is part of the problem regardless of whether it is true or not.
Why open yourself up to that when you simply could ban positive depictions of nazi imagery just like you would other been-known hate speech?
Dude can't have a burning cross avatar can he? (please say the answer is no)

Dude, no one takes the MSMcucks seriously anymore, if they want to spend broadcast time about a Lamprey wearing a Nazi Hat, let'em. Honestly I'm not worried, because they are too busy making up bullshit about Trump to bother looking at a small little website hardly anyone knows exists.

I understand you position, though I disagree with it.
They will spend airtime.
The winds changed quite a bit after Charlottesville.
The shareholders of this site are really interested in one thing.
It's not politics.
The financial calculus has pointed in one direction up until this point.
Many websites benefitted from ignoring you guys.
But now ya done gone and painted up riot shields with funny memes and stormed a town with nazis and KKK members.
Now I know your position – antifa started it – Soros paid for it – media CGI'ed it.
Fine.
But for the rest of us, we are shocked and appalled regardless of what you feel is fake.
The new financial calculus for this website is to force you to change your avatar, to take down frogs with nazi flags and helmets, to delete posts that put people's names in way too many parenthesis.
They just don't know it yet.

wait… you are wanting censorship for a group of people that have censored many things they felt went against themselves and their core beliefs to justify their hatred.

Don't you find this a little ironic?

I don't understand, please rephrase.
it's ironic to censor nazis because…. what now?
(honest confusion)

>>>>>>usa

It's ironic because you lefties haven't realized your constant censorship of anything right of center has created the Alt-Right you hate so much :)

You put that nazi hat on yourself ;-)

But to answer your point; the point is moot.
It doesn't matter whether a person is a nazi now because it's become inappropriate to make racists joke and they don't like it.
If that's ironic then it is, although it seems a stretch to me.
Irony is the least of our concerns when we have actual nazis running around.

Because I refuse to be silenced. Also, a nose for your emoticon? Really?

Brilliant retort that leads me to a grander point.
Hey Memebase, don't let a 14 year old sink your ship.
Think about it.

you have demonstrated one of the core principles of the Nazi regime: Censoring facts to best fit your political beliefs.

ergo you are defending Nazi's and the Alt-Right by stopping us from documenting what is happening.

F R E E S P E E C H I S A H A T E C R I M E
also can we move this to either riff-raff or suggest ideas? It doesn't belong here.

I'm fine with this moving wherever it is most appropriate.
I don't want to violate the rules of this forum in any manner.

Thanks for being cooperative

Hate to break it to you but you live in a world where things are rightly censored.
There already is a line of acceptable behavior on this website.
It is not a free-for-all.
I'm making the point that the line has shifted and now nazis are considered right up there with a burning cross avatar.
This is due to the nazi meme crowd preposterously overplaying their position.
Last week they were good to go. Not so this week.

"Hate to break it to you but you live in a world where things are rightly censored"

"rightly censored"
>rightly censored
(((Rightly Censored)))
R.I.G.H.T.L.Y C.E.N.S.O.R.E.D.