About

Naima Troutt, known online as Hair.Soup, is a political content creator known best for her viral Jubilee debates with right-wing political commentators like Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro. Troutt first appeared on Jubilee's Surrounded series in September 2024, during which she debated Kirk on abortion rights, with the interaction going viral through reposts, inspiring her to open an X / Twitter and TikTok page. She became the subject of reactions across social media following the first debate, leading to another Surrounded debate that October with Shapiro and a $20,000 offer from Adin Ross to debate Nick Fuentes, which she denied on the basis of not wanting to legitimize white supremacy as a perspective that should be considered. She is sometimes referred to as the "His Smile Is Very Creepy Girl" due to her calling out Kirk's smile as creepy.

Online History

Jubilee Debate On Abortion With Charlie Kirk

On September 8th, 2024, Naima Troutt appeared on an episode of the YouTube^[1] series Surrounded, run on the Jubilee channel, garnering over 19 million views in just under two months. The show has a right-wing commentator or figure, in this case, Charlie Kirk, sitting at a desk in the middle of a group of people with opposing views. The first person to run to the desk earns the opportunity to debate the figure. If the other possible debaters raise enough red flags during the debate, the person is switched out.

In the episode, Troutt chooses to debate Kirk on abortion. She asks him how long a fetus is viable and cites that 93 percent of abortions happen "well before" a fetus is viable. Kirk pushes back, asking why a six-week "baby," referring to a fetus, is of "less moral worth" than a more developed fetus. Kirk asks her what "fetus" means in Latin and he tells her it means "little human being" then smiles, repulsing Troutt, who says, "Your smile is very creepy." This clip went on to inspire an increase in memes about Charlie Kirk's smile.

Troutt argues that a fetus is considered a parasite until it's deemed viable. Kirk says, "Are you saying a baby is a disease or a tumor?" Troutt argues those are not the same things as parasites, defining a parasite as something that can't live outside its host. Kirk asks if "old people with Alzheimer's and dementia" are parasites, by her definition. She says they are not, they're humans on the verge of death.

Kirk then asks if his four-month-old child is a parasite because it can't live without milk, changing, etc. Troutt insists the baby is not a parasite because it can breathe and drink on its own. Kirk asks why this appoints to moral viability and she says it equates to scientific viability because a non-viable fetus is not technically alive, while the mother is alive.

Refusal Of $20,000 Offer To Debate Nick Fuentes

On October 13th, 2024, the X^[3] account @AFpost reported that Adin Ross offered Troutt $20,000 to debate Nick Fuentes, but that she dropped out for not wanting to "platform hate." On October 15th, she posted a video to her TikTok^[4] account, @hair.soup, explaining her reasoning.

In the video, Troutt explains that if she debates Fuentes, who is a white supremacist, then she is essentially suggesting that white supremacy is a perspective worth considering, which she does not believe to be the case. She says, "How am I suppose to have a debate with someone who openly idolizes Adolf Hitler?" She then gives another reason, which is that Fuentes' fans got "really excited" about the idea of the debate. She calls them a "hate group," says they need "something or someone to hate," and that she refuses to provide entertainment for a "bunch of Nazis" for $20,000.

Her third reason is that she finds it funny that Adin Ross tried to pay a girl $20,000 to talk to him and she still said no. The video gained over 3.4 million views in two weeks.

On October 17th, the @AdinReports X^[5] page posted a clip of Ross' response. In the video, he says that she looks like she needs the money and suggests the hype around her will die. He calls her his "little content slut for the day" and says he thinks it's a win-win, claiming "after Trump or Kamala wins, nobody is going to give a fuck about these people."

He then criticizes the look of her room, again suggesting she looks poor and needs the money. Lastly, he compares her to an alien and says, "You're not even a girl to me," calling her an animal and criticizing her visible armpit hair in a photo. The post gained over 25,000 likes in a week.

FULL: Adin Ross goes off on Jubliee girl calling her poor and disgusting for not taking the 20k Adin offered and for her showing off body hair. pic.twitter.com/XELypKFcAh

— Adin Reports (@AdinReports) October 17, 2024

Jubilee Debate On Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) With Ben Shapiro

On October 24th, 2024, Troutt appeared on another episode of the Jubilee YouTube^[2] series Surrounded, this time debating Ben Shapiro on DEI, garnering over 4.4 million views in a day. The episode has Shapiro debate Kamala Harris voters on a variety of topics, including her attempt to "put DEI at the center of her policies."

In the video, Troutt cites that one in five Americans are currently Hispanic and asks if Shapiro thinks legislators should be representative of the overall population. Shapiro says he "doesn't see a way" you can have a representative legislature with 435 members of Congress in a nation of millions, saying you can "divvy that up however you want." He asks how you decide what is the representative group.

Troutt argues it doesn't have to be systematic, but says there is an issue with representation, mentioning that there's never been a female president. Shapiro says, "We've never had a Jewish president" and she retorts, "We've had a white male president." Shapiro argues that whether Jews are white or not is up for debate. Troutt insists Jews are white. Shapiro concedes that it depends on who you ask and that it's a "pretty recent development." Troutt says being Jewish is a religion and asks if Shapiro thinks he's a white man. Shapiro says it "depends on the context in which you're discussing it."

Troutt continues to push him to get an answer on whether or not he believes he's white. Shapiro insists it depends on who you ask, saying he's seen Jews grouped with whites and not grouped with whites. Shapiro moves on to summarize what he sees as her point. He asks if Barack Obama was representative of Black females because he's a male. Troutt says that he was, but her point remains.

Shapiro says, "You should treat people as individuals." Troutt says, "If you don't even want Kamala Harris to attempt to create DEI initiatives in office, then there isn't even going to be a conversation about it." Shapiro claims there shouldn't be a conversation about it, saying that as long as an individual supports his ideas, he doesn't care what race or sexuality they are. Troutt agrees with the point to an extent but says there is a "lack of empathy" in office, saying we need to be able to empathize with the people who are living in America, saying it's easier to be empathetic towards people whose experiences you can understand based on identity.

Online Presence

On September 10th, 2024, following her debate with Charlie Kirk, X^[6] user @kalebjackson00 posted a clip of her debate, writing, "oh she ate him UP I'm actually obsessed with her wow," garnering over 560,000 likes in a month. That day, Troutt launched her X^[7] page, @Hair_Soup_, garnering over 16,000 followers in the same span of time.

On September 14th, Troutt posted her first video to her TikTok^[8] account, @Hair.Soup, garnering over 8.8 million views in a month. In the video she talks about her experience on Jubilee, saying it was overall positive. The account garnered over 360,000 followers in a month.

Troutt continued to post videos to her TikTok page over the following month, often gaining between hundreds of thousands to millions of views. On September 21st, she posted a meme to TikTok^[9] that gained over 5.5 million views in a month. On October 2nd, Interview Magazine^[10] published an interview with Troutt.

On October 24th, 2024, X^[11] user @kalebjackson00 posted a clip of her interview with Shapiro, writing, "AHHHH she's back and she gagged ben shapiro like I don't think yall understand how obsessed I am," garnering over 194,000 likes in a day.

Personal Life

According to her October 3rd, 2024 Interview Magazine interview, Naima is 22 years old and from Los Angeles, California. She has a cat named Mr. Gunther Pickles III.

Related Memes

"His Smile Is Very Creepy" Girl

'His Smile Is Very Creepy' Girl is a nickname given to Troutt after her debate with Charlie Kirk, in which she criticized his smile as creepy. In the viral video clip, Kirk asks, "What does 'fetus' mean?" and claims that "fetus" means, "Little human being," in Latin. He then smiles at Naima. Naima winces and says, "Ew, his smile is very creepy." Kirk responds, "Smiling is creepy?" to which she replies, "No, your smile specifically." After the original video went viral, internet users made fancam edits with Naima and made fun of Charlie Kirk's Smile. The memes spread to Twitter / X, among other social media platforms, in the following days.

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