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Anonymous 10/14/15(Wed)15:24:58 No. 119039761 Reminder that Toriel is not sinless. When she became queen of the monsters, she accepted a certain responsibility to lead and guide her people on the best path for them. She abandoned that responsibility when she ditched Asgore and left the entire monster world to fend for itself. But Toriel wasn't the king, Asgore was the one in chargel She was the one pulling all the strings. This has been said. She was the actual leader of the monsters But she couldn't convince Asgore to change his mind Toriel has Asgore wrapped around her little finger. She could have talked him into doing whatever she wanted. But no, she abandoned her responsibility as queen, and to the man she married because she disagreed with the one bad choice (and possibly first real decision as king he ever made by himself) and couldn't be bothered to help him see the light. Because of this childish stubbornness, she would have doomed the entire race of monsters. She plants the idea that Asgore is a villain in your head as you leave the ruins, and does not bother explaining the motivations behind any of his actions.Why? What motivation could she possibly have to not inform a child she apparently cares about so much about the situation monsters are faced with? She wanted Asgore to die. Then, as she does in many of the neutral endings, she would swoop in and take the reins once more now that her petty disagreement with her ex-husband is no longer a factor. She couldn't be bothered to care until Asgore wasn't around anymore. That's how much of a bitch she is. She even scolds Asgore for not being proactive enough about killing humans, because he could have left at any time and actively sought out people to killl Would she really have been alright if he did this? If so... WHY DID SHE TRY TO STOP FRISK FROM LEAVING THE RUINS IN THE FIRST PLACE? She has no respect for the sacrifices that were made, only for what she sees as right. After all, "she knows what's best for you". Says it in her description

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Anonymous 10/14/15(Wed)15:24:58 No. 119039761 Reminder that Toriel is not sinless. When she became queen of the monsters, she accepted a certain responsibility to lead and guide her people on the best path for them. She abandoned that responsibility when she ditched Asgore and left the entire monster world to fend for itself. But Toriel wasn't the king, Asgore was the one in chargel She was the one pulling all the strings. This has been said. She was the actual leader of the monsters But she couldn't convince Asgore to change his mind Toriel has Asgore wrapped around her little finger. She could have talked him into doing whatever she wanted. But no, she abandoned her responsibility as queen, and to the man she married because she disagreed with the one bad choice (and possibly first real decision as king he ever made by himself) and couldn't be bothered to help him see the light. Because of this childish stubbornness, she would have doomed the entire race of monsters. She plants the idea that Asgore is a villain in your head as you leave the ruins, and does not bother explaining the motivations behind any of his actions.Why? What motivation could she possibly have to not inform a child she apparently cares about so much about the situation monsters are faced with? She wanted Asgore to die. Then, as she does in many of the neutral endings, she would swoop in and take the reins once more now that her petty disagreement with her ex-husband is no longer a factor. She couldn't be bothered to care until Asgore wasn't around anymore. That's how much of a bitch she is. She even scolds Asgore for not being proactive enough about killing humans, because he could have left at any time and actively sought out people to killl Would she really have been alright if he did this? If so... WHY DID SHE TRY TO STOP FRISK FROM LEAVING THE RUINS IN THE FIRST PLACE? She has no respect for the sacrifices that were made, only for what she sees as right. After all, "she knows what's best for you". Says it in her description

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Oct 18, 2015 at 12:28AM EDT

Toriel didnt tell Asgore that he should go to the surface to kill 6 people, instead of waiting, she simply said to go up and collect six souls. Probably from people who were dead or dying of natural causes since the story established that monsters are weak as shit compared to humans.

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