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4h and nathan, too!@Vahn16 I love dunkey's stuff, but I sure do have no interest in his opinions on games Liz Ryerson Cellaguro 5h the big problem with game criticism is how it tends to serve as the PR wing of the Susan Arendt 8。 Chloi @chloi 7h i ultimately don't care about dunkey thinking poorly of game sites because im used to it but it's nice to find out he f------ hates us too. Follow ics Why am l supposed to care about this dunkey especaly because ve had fun watching he cham t workwith peoe video, exactly? and nathan, too!@Vahn16 4h l guess maybe his thoughts are indicative of broader lines of thought among some people, but like, I just don't really care? Liz Ryerson @ellaguro 5h critics have a moral obligation to not write as fans, but there's less economic incentive to do so & gamers still give you s--- either way specifically calls "f------ idiots" in the video. but oh well 10:14 AM-9 Jul 2017 Chloio @chloi 6h no the thing im most mad about is shaming freelancers. they don't deserve to get dragged. they have no role in forming editorial policy. Liz Ryerson @ellaguro 5h also the landscape of game criticism is very scattered and theres a lot of stuff people either actively ignore or dont know about and nathan, too!来@Vahn16-4h games criticism has problems, and discussion of them is good. but not as a reaction to comments from the Misinformed Dude Of The Week Ol Tyler Treese @tylertreese Replying to @SusanArendt there's no reason to. It's a poorly thought out rant by someone that doesn't have a clue about criticism or how sites operate 7h games writing, like other forms of entertainment writing. depends on industry access to function, so it can't ever be too challenging and nathan, too!来@Vahn16-4h that inherently centers the discussion around stuff that barely matters and makes everybody defensive and ugh. it's just exhausting seeing your full name in a video by someone wl 3 million subs is scary if you're trying to start your career. i hope they don't get bullied 11:09 AM-9 Jul 2017 dr. sure, more critics need to do their job, but the big problem is the structure of the gaming outlet landscape, not individual critics Tyler Treese @tylertreese I'm genuinely shocked by how much play I've seen it get on Twitter when it's not worth discussing in the slightest. and nathan, too! @Vahn 16 Follow there has been some more challenging work coming out of bigger publications, also. îm less negative about the landscape than i used to be now I'm gonna RI ellaguro' s very smart Susan Arendt St. ● @SusanArendt-7h Yeahhhhhh, ok, I'll be skipping that, then comments on this and then go enjoy my Tweet your reply sunday that was because there were a lot of people who started off establishing themselves independently and they actually got hired for it Max ScovilleMaxScoville 5h 1:53 PM -9 Jul 2017 Adam Rosenberg@geminibros 6h to to Man that video was a bummer. I like that dude's videos, and he makes one specifically s------- on my friends because of where they work?? Liz Ryerson @ellaguro 4h at the end of the day, the structural problems of bigger outlets depending on industry access & the economic reality of online media remain I have feelings on this that are better saved for IM. I think it's worth a watch, at Patricia Hernandez@xpatriciah 21h re: dunkey's new video...yes big outlets use many different writers but they also build a body of work which you can get to knovw what is frustrating watching this is that he seems smart abt some aspects of criticism as a profession, and then just 100% wrong on others Liz Ryerson @ellaguro 4h either you have critics funding through Patreonetc who are doing their own thing but cant get many people to pay attention to their work Mike Rougeau Follow Adam Goldman @theadamgoldman Follow Dan Stapleton h-------- this dunkey video is bad Liz Ryerson @ellaguro-4h .you have youtubers (like dunkey) who are Personalities first and serious critics 11:54 AM-9 Jul 2017 Replying to @xpatriciah The video is reductive; don't really get Dunkey on a high horse 9:59 AM-9 Jul 2017 1 Retweet 6 Likes How come every YouTuber doesn't agree on how good games are? All their reviews appear on the same site. Where's the consistency? Liz Ryerson 18 6 ...or you have the bigger outlets, which (like i said) have the tenuous economic models of all online media and depend on industry access 1:07 PM-9 Jul 2017 Tauriq Moosa Phil Hornshaw @philhornshaw 5h Replying to @RogueCheddar It's hilarious how he criticizes people for being monolithic and then says everyone else does the same thing 0 in what is a dunkey? 10:24 AM-9 Jul 2017 7 Retweets 93 Likes

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@MaxScoville [IGN host, producer, and 'face']
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@DanStapleton [IGN executive editor of reviews]
@SusanArendt [Crop Circle Media CEO, TakeThis.org co-founder], @tylertreese [bylines for PlayStation LifeStyle, We Got This Covered, High-Def Digest, Kill Screen & etc. The Bro-C Podcast co-host]
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@RogueCheddar [Gamespot and "Gamespot Universe" senior editor, entertainment]
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@Vahn16 [Kotaku reporter]
@xpatriciah [Kotaku deputy editor]
@theadamgoldman [writer/director], not to be confused with the NYT journalist of the same name
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4h and nathan, too!@Vahn16 I love dunkey's stuff, but I sure do have no interest in his opinions on games Liz Ryerson Cellaguro 5h the big problem with game criticism is how it tends to serve as the PR wing of the Susan Arendt 8。 Chloi @chloi 7h i ultimately don't care about dunkey thinking poorly of game sites because im used to it but it's nice to find out he f------ hates us too. Follow ics Why am l supposed to care about this dunkey especaly because ve had fun watching he cham t workwith peoe video, exactly? and nathan, too!@Vahn16 4h l guess maybe his thoughts are indicative of broader lines of thought among some people, but like, I just don't really care? Liz Ryerson @ellaguro 5h critics have a moral obligation to not write as fans, but there's less economic incentive to do so & gamers still give you s--- either way specifically calls "f------ idiots" in the video. but oh well 10:14 AM-9 Jul 2017 Chloio @chloi 6h no the thing im most mad about is shaming freelancers. they don't deserve to get dragged. they have no role in forming editorial policy. Liz Ryerson @ellaguro 5h also the landscape of game criticism is very scattered and theres a lot of stuff people either actively ignore or dont know about and nathan, too!来@Vahn16-4h games criticism has problems, and discussion of them is good. but not as a reaction to comments from the Misinformed Dude Of The Week Ol Tyler Treese @tylertreese Replying to @SusanArendt there's no reason to. It's a poorly thought out rant by someone that doesn't have a clue about criticism or how sites operate 7h games writing, like other forms of entertainment writing. depends on industry access to function, so it can't ever be too challenging and nathan, too!来@Vahn16-4h that inherently centers the discussion around stuff that barely matters and makes everybody defensive and ugh. it's just exhausting seeing your full name in a video by someone wl 3 million subs is scary if you're trying to start your career. i hope they don't get bullied 11:09 AM-9 Jul 2017 dr. sure, more critics need to do their job, but the big problem is the structure of the gaming outlet landscape, not individual critics Tyler Treese @tylertreese I'm genuinely shocked by how much play I've seen it get on Twitter when it's not worth discussing in the slightest. and nathan, too! @Vahn 16 Follow there has been some more challenging work coming out of bigger publications, also. îm less negative about the landscape than i used to be now I'm gonna RI ellaguro' s very smart Susan Arendt St. ● @SusanArendt-7h Yeahhhhhh, ok, I'll be skipping that, then comments on this and then go enjoy my Tweet your reply sunday that was because there were a lot of people who started off establishing themselves independently and they actually got hired for it Max ScovilleMaxScoville 5h 1:53 PM -9 Jul 2017 Adam Rosenberg@geminibros 6h to to Man that video was a bummer. I like that dude's videos, and he makes one specifically s------- on my friends because of where they work?? Liz Ryerson @ellaguro 4h at the end of the day, the structural problems of bigger outlets depending on industry access & the economic reality of online media remain I have feelings on this that are better saved for IM. I think it's worth a watch, at Patricia Hernandez@xpatriciah 21h re: dunkey's new video...yes big outlets use many different writers but they also build a body of work which you can get to knovw what is frustrating watching this is that he seems smart abt some aspects of criticism as a profession, and then just 100% wrong on others Liz Ryerson @ellaguro 4h either you have critics funding through Patreonetc who are doing their own thing but cant get many people to pay attention to their work Mike Rougeau Follow Adam Goldman @theadamgoldman Follow Dan Stapleton h-------- this dunkey video is bad Liz Ryerson @ellaguro-4h .you have youtubers (like dunkey) who are Personalities first and serious critics 11:54 AM-9 Jul 2017 Replying to @xpatriciah The video is reductive; don't really get Dunkey on a high horse 9:59 AM-9 Jul 2017 1 Retweet 6 Likes How come every YouTuber doesn't agree on how good games are? All their reviews appear on the same site. Where's the consistency? Liz Ryerson 18 6 ...or you have the bigger outlets, which (like i said) have the tenuous economic models of all online media and depend on industry access 1:07 PM-9 Jul 2017 Tauriq Moosa Phil Hornshaw @philhornshaw 5h Replying to @RogueCheddar It's hilarious how he criticizes people for being monolithic and then says everyone else does the same thing 0 in what is a dunkey? 10:24 AM-9 Jul 2017 7 Retweets 93 Likes

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