File nide): 1452109491897 jpg (506.77 KB, 1377x1545, 459:515. Bloch-SermonOnTheMount ina) (- Anonymous 01/06/16 (Wed) 20:44:51 ID: 1b41cb No.240352 >240359 >240410 [Watch Thread] >But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. What did He mean by this? Anonymous 01/06/16 (Wed) 21:04:01 ID: 4c7187 No.240359 >240309 >240408 >240631 >>240352 (OP) I've posted before about this but it's better translated as "do not diametrically oppose an evildoer" and the reason you were supposed to turn the other cheek is because >1. In antiquity, you only hit someone with your right hand (the clean one) >2. Backhands were to insult, a frontal slap showed equality and challenge. >3. By turning your cheek the aggressor was forced to stop hitting you or acknowledge you as an equal; that was quite a statement to a Roman by a conquered Jew. So, Jesus was telling us to fight back smartly, using public shame as a weapon, not just attack head on like a moron Anonymous 01/07/16 (Thu) 08:30:46 ID: 994133 No.240519 >>240031 >240034 >>240408 Matthew 5:39 έγ δε λέγω ύμίν μή άντιστήναι το ποιηρ άλλ δστις σε βαπίσει έπί τν δεξιάν σου σιαγόνα στρέψον αύτ και τήν άλλην First off, what you are translating as "do not resist" is "ávrioTĪva." ČVIOTĪvai has more to it than resist, Strong's Concordance at 436 notes "to take a -complete- stand against" and it derived from a -military- term to diametrically oppose one's foes. Thayer's notes "to set oneself against" "Resist" here is passive, but the term ávrIOTTjvai clearly denotes an aggressive posture. Better might be "but I say unto you, do not square off against an evil doer Especially in the context of the examples all being examples of how to engage in intelligent resistance - "Turn the other cheek" I already explained. "Give him your cloak too" is Christ referencing Exodus 22:26 to shame your opponent. Exodus 22:26 compels creditors to return the cloak at night so that the poor can sleep in it. By giving up your cloak you shame the creditor who is willing to sue for your tunic - and God will hear the cries of the debtor, Exodus promises this. As for walking the extra mile, that's a reference to the Roman law of impressment which allowed a Roman soldier to compel a person of a conquered state to carry his pack for one mile but no further. By carrying it the 2nd mile, the soldier would be forced to comically beg you to put it dor his commanding officer see and he get in trouble. lest So, it clearly does not mean to not fight back - it means to fight back smartly. This is what happens when people try to read scripture with no reference for the history or culture it was written in, not to mention reading a bad rendering of the Greek in order to keep the poor in their place. Remember Christians, Christ taught us to fight smartly, not to not fight. Of course a Christian fights against evil How could we not?

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