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in reply to lightsideluc

This is the least helpful way to continue the conversation that already started with two people just asserting their positions with no explanations.
Pro-life stance is that a fetus is a person and has rights, so it's murder in their philosophical worldview. Pro-choice stance is that a fetus is not yet a person and doesn't yet have rights, so it isn't. This is a fundamental disagreement on the philosophy of life and personhood; it has to be debated as such or it won't bloody go anywhere.


in reply to OppoQuinn

It worries me that people don't understand, or willingly ignore, the nature of these fundamental disagreements.
Quite a few people would rather go bloody before it bloody goes anywhere โ€“ other than "far in their side's favor".
*On both sides of the issue. What percentage in total, or on either side, I genuinely don't know.
โ€ฆI wonder if there is, or wish there was, a good shorthand for that statement. It would be really useful.


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