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HOME ASKME A THING! MOBILE RSS Search tapehook said: Idon't think Anita Sarkeesian's videos should be treated as an extension of the PMRC mindset. She's pointing out misogynistic tropes in video games, not advocating censorship. I mean hell, she starts her first video in the series saying that even though she's pointing out problematic aspects of games, that doesn't mean those games shouldn't be played or enjoyed. I don't understand why she's getting as much flack as she is. Anita is getting flack because she's an ignorant outsider. I'm not even a gamer, and this is apparent to me Whether you agree the content Anita showcases is misogynistic offensive or not, most of her videos function on the same, flawed premise: That the negative gender stereotypes she finds in these games are harmful to the gamers that play them. She argues that these games somehow ingrain negative gender stereotypes in the individuals that play hurt women via essentially This is pure, unsubstantiated BS. Anita would never fund an actual study with the tens of thousands of dollars she's raised, because she knows any such study wouldn't work in her favor. It's easier to buy a bunch of video games, cherrypick the most offensive parts for ignorant viewers, and then keep the rest of the money for yourself and your organization right? You've gotta wake up to the truth: Anita's videos are about as effective and as enlightening as an elementary school screening of Reefer Madness Media -especially popular media-reflects already-existing norms, ideas concepts, and sentiments in a society, it doesn't dictate them to consumers. Slasher flicks don't make serial killers. Grand Theft Auto doesn't increase the probability of shooting sprees. Gangsta rap doesn't create gangs. The game Bully doesn't creafe bullies. Reading 50 Shades of Grey probably doesn't increase the likelihood of the reader getting tied up and whipped for sexual pleasure either If EA Games were to somehow create and sell a video game titled Mysogyny: Women Suck, the only people who would buy and enjoy such a game would be individuals who already agreed with the game's clearly stated ideology. Anyone else buying and enjoying the game probably just dabbles in whatever fantasy the game presents during gameplay only The probability of this game somehow CREATING a misogynist is about as likely as your local library's copy of Mein Kampf creating a Nazi. Any such result would be minuscule if charted in a study of any sort As a kid, teen, and adult, I've been exposed to TONS of media that has displayed women as the weaker, more submissive, and more sexually desirable gender. However, this is not something I feel is reality. Why? Strong female role models, good upbringing, friends, family, amazing wife, and plenty of real-life interactions with women. F--- A VIDEO GAMEI A healthy reality ALWAYS trumps a fantasy. If you really want to change hearts and minds when it comes to gender roles in society, you've got to work on changing that society's reality, not its media-especially media that so explicitly deals in fantasy. I know we tend to blame the media for a lot of our ills, but your real-life interactions and role models play a larger role in guiding your moral and social outlook than any music, movie, game, or book you'll ever consume Anita is on the most foolish of errands, but y'all are eating it up like a hot pizza. Looking for positive gender roles in a game like Hitman is like looking for positive gender roles in any of the three Expendables films. There's nothing applicable to real life in Hitman because the game's not meant to guide anyone through real life. It's a violent video game, not a dating advice show. There aren't a whole lotta healthy social norms in the game because it's not meant to portray any sort of normality NOW DONT GET IT TWISTED: I do understand that violent, male-pandering video games persist in the video game industry. They make a lot of money, yes. And I completely acknowledge that a lot of what's in games like Hitman, Manhunt, and Grand Theft Auto isn't exactly, uh, healthy when it comes to the gender roles displayed. There's a definitely a lack of female leading roles in many games, too. However, it's not like there aren't alternatives here. There are plenty of non-violent, positive indie and mainstream games out there that would love more customers. And there could be MORE if we supported this sect of the industry. If Anita really cared about the future of the video game industry in relation to her cause, well, then she'd encourage all of her fans to purchase video games that work outside the negative gender stereotypes and violence of games like Hitman. It's that simple. Supply and demand might have created Hitman, but it can just as easily create games with positive messages and gender roles, and it already has. You just have to buy them and be willing to support future releases that fit in with your taste. But Anita is no gamer, and most of her supporters aren't either. They're outsiders that want to see change in a market they don't participate in. Anita's lack of experience is plain as day, yet, she's lauded as some kind of expert What if we applied the same angle to me right here Would you take my metal reviews seriously if I owned no metal records? Didn't listen to metal? Had no real history with metal? Disliked metal? Constantly criticized metal with surface-level complaints like it being too loud, satanic, violent, angry, and perpetuating dangerous, overly masculine gender stereotypes? No, you wouldn't No one except people equally ignorant to metal would take me seriously. l'd be an ignorant outsider, which Anita is when it comes to gaming. And I still stand by my PMRC comparison, too. I see similarity in her determination to find social dangers where there really are none. Yeah, Anita has nowhere near the same level of power or political influence and she probably never will. And she probably won't try to pull off the same censorship stunts due to the inevitable failure of trying to enforce or legislate any such censorship. It would be more beneficial to her to stay on the sidelines and collect her fundraising bucks as she highlights games she deems misogynistic. I agree America's got a long way to go when it comes to creating social equality between the genders, but video games are nowhere near the root of the issues we need to address They're just an easy target for the quick to complain. All in all, it's same s---, different decade. People have been whining and moaning over harmful" media for generations. And it should be no surprise that those desperately seeking to be offended lose every time. You can be on that side if you want, but just be a good sport when you take your . August 27, 2014 131 notes BY T

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zoë “lycan subscribe" quinn O @UnburntWitch - 1h Since I'm getting a lot of emails about this: no, l've got nothing to do with That TV show. I learned about its existence at the same time as the rest of you. No, I was not asked, consulted etc. and if I had been asked, I wouldn't have been ok with it. That's all. 5 17 42 408 zoë “lycan subscribe" quinn O @UnburntWitch · 1h I continue to reject any oversimplification of GamerGate that leaves out its roots in white supremacy, domestic violence, and the pre-existing societal issues it capitalized in favor of a more convenient and inaccurate narrative about it being solely about women in games. t7 78 5 510 @UnburntWitch - 57m zoë “lycan subscribe" quinn If I am portrayed in it, it's without my involvement or any input on my end, and is happening without my consent. If I'm written out of it, well. I'm not so sure how you can present it as an “honest" story. But that's really not my problem, either. 27 10 204 zoë “lycan subscribe" quinn ... @UnburntWitch I don't want to do any interviews on this, I don't want to give any other statements aside from this. It's bad enough having all of this pop up again without any warning or regard for how I might feel about it, so l'd like to just try and ignore it. Thank you for understanding.

zoë "lycan subscribe" quinn O @UnburntWitch I haven't stopped screaming this for the last seven years because the scarlet letter on me hasn't come off, the harassment hasn't stopped, and people still refuse to learn a god damned thing about what happened to me (and others). Ignoring history enables the repetition of it. * Margaret Sullivan O @Sulliview 7h The AP's treatment of 22-year-old journalist Emily Wilder shows how much newsroom managers still have to learn about bad-faith attacks and online harassment of their staffers, seven years after Gamergate should have taught them. My column washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/medi. Show this thread 7:00 pm · 27 May 2021 Twitter for iPhone zoë "lycan subscribe" quinn O @UnburntWitch Replying to @UnburntWitch You might be sick of hearing about it, but I promise I'm more sick of having to say it. It is nothing short of a waking nightmare to be constantly impacted by it for the better part of 10 years despite all attempts to move the f--- on, only to have people say it never happened. 7:08 pm 27 May 2021 Twitter for iPhone cory barlog O @corybarlog 10m ... Replying to @UnburntWitch people are just the f-----' worst. O 1 zoë "lycan subscribe" quinn O @UnburntWitch · 7m I'm losing my mind dude, there's honestly Discourse saying gg never even happened and wasn't that bad anyway like 2014 never stopped. ... O 11 Cliff Bleszinski O @therealcliffyb - 6m JFC

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HOME ASKME A THING! MOBILE RSS Search tapehook said: Idon't think Anita Sarkeesian's videos should be treated as an extension of the PMRC mindset. She's pointing out misogynistic tropes in video games, not advocating censorship. I mean hell, she starts her first video in the series saying that even though she's pointing out problematic aspects of games, that doesn't mean those games shouldn't be played or enjoyed. I don't understand why she's getting as much flack as she is. Anita is getting flack because she's an ignorant outsider. I'm not even a gamer, and this is apparent to me Whether you agree the content Anita showcases is misogynistic offensive or not, most of her videos function on the same, flawed premise: That the negative gender stereotypes she finds in these games are harmful to the gamers that play them. She argues that these games somehow ingrain negative gender stereotypes in the individuals that play hurt women via essentially This is pure, unsubstantiated BS. Anita would never fund an actual study with the tens of thousands of dollars she's raised, because she knows any such study wouldn't work in her favor. It's easier to buy a bunch of video games, cherrypick the most offensive parts for ignorant viewers, and then keep the rest of the money for yourself and your organization right? You've gotta wake up to the truth: Anita's videos are about as effective and as enlightening as an elementary school screening of Reefer Madness Media -especially popular media-reflects already-existing norms, ideas concepts, and sentiments in a society, it doesn't dictate them to consumers. Slasher flicks don't make serial killers. Grand Theft Auto doesn't increase the probability of shooting sprees. Gangsta rap doesn't create gangs. The game Bully doesn't creafe bullies. Reading 50 Shades of Grey probably doesn't increase the likelihood of the reader getting tied up and whipped for sexual pleasure either If EA Games were to somehow create and sell a video game titled Mysogyny: Women Suck, the only people who would buy and enjoy such a game would be individuals who already agreed with the game's clearly stated ideology. Anyone else buying and enjoying the game probably just dabbles in whatever fantasy the game presents during gameplay only The probability of this game somehow CREATING a misogynist is about as likely as your local library's copy of Mein Kampf creating a Nazi. Any such result would be minuscule if charted in a study of any sort As a kid, teen, and adult, I've been exposed to TONS of media that has displayed women as the weaker, more submissive, and more sexually desirable gender. However, this is not something I feel is reality. Why? Strong female role models, good upbringing, friends, family, amazing wife, and plenty of real-life interactions with women. F--- A VIDEO GAMEI A healthy reality ALWAYS trumps a fantasy. If you really want to change hearts and minds when it comes to gender roles in society, you've got to work on changing that society's reality, not its media-especially media that so explicitly deals in fantasy. I know we tend to blame the media for a lot of our ills, but your real-life interactions and role models play a larger role in guiding your moral and social outlook than any music, movie, game, or book you'll ever consume Anita is on the most foolish of errands, but y'all are eating it up like a hot pizza. Looking for positive gender roles in a game like Hitman is like looking for positive gender roles in any of the three Expendables films. There's nothing applicable to real life in Hitman because the game's not meant to guide anyone through real life. It's a violent video game, not a dating advice show. There aren't a whole lotta healthy social norms in the game because it's not meant to portray any sort of normality NOW DONT GET IT TWISTED: I do understand that violent, male-pandering video games persist in the video game industry. They make a lot of money, yes. And I completely acknowledge that a lot of what's in games like Hitman, Manhunt, and Grand Theft Auto isn't exactly, uh, healthy when it comes to the gender roles displayed. There's a definitely a lack of female leading roles in many games, too. However, it's not like there aren't alternatives here. There are plenty of non-violent, positive indie and mainstream games out there that would love more customers. And there could be MORE if we supported this sect of the industry. If Anita really cared about the future of the video game industry in relation to her cause, well, then she'd encourage all of her fans to purchase video games that work outside the negative gender stereotypes and violence of games like Hitman. It's that simple. Supply and demand might have created Hitman, but it can just as easily create games with positive messages and gender roles, and it already has. You just have to buy them and be willing to support future releases that fit in with your taste. But Anita is no gamer, and most of her supporters aren't either. They're outsiders that want to see change in a market they don't participate in. Anita's lack of experience is plain as day, yet, she's lauded as some kind of expert What if we applied the same angle to me right here Would you take my metal reviews seriously if I owned no metal records? Didn't listen to metal? Had no real history with metal? Disliked metal? Constantly criticized metal with surface-level complaints like it being too loud, satanic, violent, angry, and perpetuating dangerous, overly masculine gender stereotypes? No, you wouldn't No one except people equally ignorant to metal would take me seriously. l'd be an ignorant outsider, which Anita is when it comes to gaming. And I still stand by my PMRC comparison, too. I see similarity in her determination to find social dangers where there really are none. Yeah, Anita has nowhere near the same level of power or political influence and she probably never will. And she probably won't try to pull off the same censorship stunts due to the inevitable failure of trying to enforce or legislate any such censorship. It would be more beneficial to her to stay on the sidelines and collect her fundraising bucks as she highlights games she deems misogynistic. I agree America's got a long way to go when it comes to creating social equality between the genders, but video games are nowhere near the root of the issues we need to address They're just an easy target for the quick to complain. All in all, it's same s---, different decade. People have been whining and moaning over harmful" media for generations. And it should be no surprise that those desperately seeking to be offended lose every time. You can be on that side if you want, but just be a good sport when you take your . August 27, 2014 131 notes BY T

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Aug 27, 2014 at 05:22AM EDT

This only piles on all the hypocrisy SJWs love to propagate:

>You can’t talk about muh patriarchy/racism/homophobia if you are a not female/black/gay
>I’m not a gamer, but I will talk about your hobby

I just love how these people claim to fight "for equality", yet expect special treatment based on the very same concepts they complain about.

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