I-1 OriginalListerine points 4 hours ago l emailed as wel Hello Jimmy Il keep this concise. I'm a computer science student, and Wikipedia has gotten me through just about all of my undergrad schooling I am immensely grateful for it, and as such I donate a meager amount of money at every donation drive. It's the least I can do. I'm very near graduation, and will soon be living off of a software engineer's salary, not student loans. I'd like to start giving substantially to Wikipedia in order to pay that knowledge forward. Here's the problem: Wikipedia's complete lack of any sort of attempt at neutrality regarding Gamergate is giving me serious ethical qualms about doing so. I don't want to financially support an organization that claims to be a neutral, impartial source of information on all things that then goes on to try to push an agenda and spin a narrative of an author's choosing. And then after the deletion of the Wikia page documenting editor abuse and corruption, I CERTAINLY don't feel comfortable giving money when the founder of the site publicly condones such actions. I'll still use your site to look up mathematical formulas and listings of TV episodes, but you've lost respect and credibility with me. I won't be donating again untilVunless Wikipedia starts to address glaring issues. Sincerely, [name] Hi [name] I'm happy to inform you that our current fundraiser is the most successful in our entire history But there's something deeper that is wrong with your argument- Wikipedia is not for sale, not to any donors, so even if donations were dropping, that would not mean to me that we should compromise on our principles of quality and neutrality in response to a pressure group My point here is not to say that there is nothing wrong with the article I actually think it needs a fair amount of work. But I want you and others to understand that threatening people is not helpful. I've recently seen web pages in which people who are and I don't know how else to put it vicious assholes - are gathering data to attack the personal lives of volunteers. It is very difficult for me to buy into the notion that gamergate is "really about ethics in journalism when every single experience I have personally had with it involved pro-gg people insulting, threatening, doxxing, etc. No, not all pro-gg people. But there'sa good faith that you are a good person the name gamer gate" is toxic Even if 90% of the supporters are good and 10% are bad, the bad are poisoning the message for everyone. That's not an evaluation of right and wrong, just an observation of a clear fact. You see, a big part of the problem is that #gamergate is not a movement, but a hashtag. And so there is literally no way to have any quality control of any kind. There is no way to see what is or is not a position of gamergate. I have had several people over the past weeks say to me "It is not about mysogyny. I was prepared to believe that. But discussions usually very quickly move to attacking a female game developer for events surrounding her personal life. That's sick. The contingent of people who are interested in putting pressure on institutions within game journalism to expose corruption need an actual organization with a mission statement, with a board of directors, with elected people who represent the movement. Barring that, you should very much expect the media to continue to accurately report that the Gamergate community is associated with online harassment and misogyny. But actually, in fact, it is. I know that may pain you to hear. You thought you were taking part in a movement that would be about ethics in journalism. A movement that would stand for the rights of all gamers. That would welcome women into the world of gaming and would shame those who would engage in personal attacks on the basis of gender. I admire all of those things. But #gamergate has been permanently tarnished and highjacked by a handful of people who are not what you would hope. You might not be the person to lead it. I don't know who is. But I strongly recommend that someone organize a "gamer's union of sorts, with a real mission statement, with real rules, with real organization and leadership Bitching and moaning on a twitter hashtag is getting you nowhere, particularly for the reasons I have outlined in this note. -Jimmy Wales e contingent to the extent that for good people and I respect your letter and assume permalink save roport give gold I've recently seen tumblr accounts of people who are - and I don't know how to put it - vicious assholes- are gathering data to attack the personal lives of people who they think have unacceptable opinions. It is very difficult for me to buy into the notion that feminism is “really about equality', when every single experience I have personally had with it involved feminists insulting, threatening, doxing, etc. No, not all feminists. But there's a huge contingent to the extent that for good people - and I respect your letter and assume good faith that you are a good person-the name “feminism" is toxic. Even if 90% of the supporters are good and 10% are bad, the bad are poisoning the message for everyone. That's not an evaluation of right and wrong, just an observation of a clear fact. You see, a big part of the problem is that feminism is not a movement, but an idea. And so there is literally no way to have any quality control of any kind. There is no way to see what is or is not a position of feminism I have had several people over the past weeks say to me "It is not about misandry." I was prepared to believe that. But discussions very quickly move to attacking males for their sex, sexual orientation, and gender identity. That's sick The contingent of people who are interested in putting pressure on institutions to promote gender equality need an actual organization with a mission statement a board of directors, with elected people who represent the movement. Barring that, you should very much expect the media to continue to accurately report that the feminist community is associated with online harassment and misandry But actually, in fact, it is I know that may pain you to hear. You thought that you were taking part in a movement that would be about equality. A movement that would stand for the rights of all women. That would welcome women into a world of equality and would shame those who would engage in personal attacks on the basis of gender I admire all of those things But feminism has been permanently tarnished and hijacked by a handful of people who are not what you would hope You might not be the person to lead it. I don't know who is. But I strongly recommend that someone organize a "feminist union" of sorts, with a real mission statement, with real rules, with real organization and leadership Bitching and moaning on a tumblr blog is getting you nowhere, particularly for the reasons I have outlined in this note Anonymous

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Gamergate (harassment campaign) Article Talk From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia For other uses, see Gamergate (disambiguation). Gamergate or GamerGate (GG)[¹] was a loosely organized misogynistic online harassment campaign and a right-wing backlash against feminism, diversity, and progressivism in video game culture. [2][³] It was conducted using the hashtag "#Gamergate" primarily in 2014 and 2015.[1][4][5][6] Beginning in August 2014, Gamergate targeted women in the video game industry, most notably feminist media critic Anita Sarkeesian and video game developers Zoë Quinn and Brianna Wu, among others.[7][8][9][10][11] The harassment campaign included doxing, r--- threats, and death threats.[12][13][14] Gamergate proponents ("Gamergaters") stated that they were a social movement, but lacked well-defined goals, a coherent message, and leaders, making Gamergate difficult to define.[15][16][17] Gamergaters claimed to promote ethics in video games journalism, claimed to be protecting the "gamer" identity, and opposed what they asserted as "political correctness" in video games.[18][19][20][21][22] Read Date Target Gamergate, online harassment campaign in 2014-15 that targeted women in the video game industry. The attacks were attributed largely to white male right-wing gamers who railed against the rise and influence of women and feminism in the industry. Gamergate served as a recruiting tool for the growing alt-right movement and helped spur the online “Pizzagate" conspiracy theory, which soon spawned the wider QAnon conspiracy movement. …………………………....…..……….…..... Attack type Victims Motive View source Inquiry XA 28 languages ✓ Perpetrators Internet trolls, particularly from 4chan, Internet Relay Chat, and 8chan View history Tools ✓ Gamergate August 2014 - 2015 Women in the video game industry See all media Online harassment campaign Zoë Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu, and others Gamergaters created conspiracy theories falsely accusing Quinn of an unethical relationship with video game journalist Nathan Grayson.[23][24][25] More broadly, they alleged unethical collusion between the press and feminists, progressives, and social critics.[17][26] [27] These claims were widely dismissed as trivial, conspiracy theories, baseless, or unrelated to actual issues of ethics in gaming and journalism.[28] [29][30] Gamergate supporters frequently denied that the harassment took place, falsely claiming it to be manufactured by the victims.[31][32] Misogyny anti-feminism anti- progressivism FBI investigation Gamergate has been described as a culture war over cultural diversification, artistic recognition, feminism in video games, social criticism in video games, and the social identity of gamers.[28][33] [34] [35] Many supporters of Gamergate opposed the increasing influence of feminism and so-called "social justice warriors" on video game culture. [2][36] Gamergate led figures both inside and outside the gaming industry to focus on methods of addressing online harassment, ways to minimize harm, and prevent similar events. [37] [38] [39] [40] Gamergate has been viewed as a contributor to the alt-right and other right- wing movements.[21][41] Video game developer Brianna Wu

Jalen Hutchinson Studied Culinary Science at Culinary Institute of America (Graduated 2014). Author has 304 answers and 740.1K answer views. 5y Not that I care that much either way, but it did expose a lot of corrupt game developers and game journalists. X Journalists would make claims of people like Anita Sarkeesian "playing video games all her life" when she openly admitted many times she is not a gamer and only starter recently (when it wasn't for an interview). Various developers trading sex or money for good reviews got exposed, journalists who accepted got exposed. People became a bit more critical about supporting a game just because the developer has a victim complex stating tat their game could have only failed because of sexism, instead of their own poor developing skills. What really sealed the deal was opposition often faking their own harassment. Anita sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn have been caught multiple times screenshotting "harassment" while showing that the harrasser's account name in the login. Or when someone called the police to help Sarkeesian against a "very real threat" she was posting about, only for police to find the harasser's messages were coming from her IP address. I just want honesty from the community, and the lies were mostly exposed by the "dreaded" gamergate. 1.3K views • View upvotes 26

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I-1 OriginalListerine points 4 hours ago l emailed as wel Hello Jimmy Il keep this concise. I'm a computer science student, and Wikipedia has gotten me through just about all of my undergrad schooling I am immensely grateful for it, and as such I donate a meager amount of money at every donation drive. It's the least I can do. I'm very near graduation, and will soon be living off of a software engineer's salary, not student loans. I'd like to start giving substantially to Wikipedia in order to pay that knowledge forward. Here's the problem: Wikipedia's complete lack of any sort of attempt at neutrality regarding Gamergate is giving me serious ethical qualms about doing so. I don't want to financially support an organization that claims to be a neutral, impartial source of information on all things that then goes on to try to push an agenda and spin a narrative of an author's choosing. And then after the deletion of the Wikia page documenting editor abuse and corruption, I CERTAINLY don't feel comfortable giving money when the founder of the site publicly condones such actions. I'll still use your site to look up mathematical formulas and listings of TV episodes, but you've lost respect and credibility with me. I won't be donating again untilVunless Wikipedia starts to address glaring issues. Sincerely, [name] Hi [name] I'm happy to inform you that our current fundraiser is the most successful in our entire history But there's something deeper that is wrong with your argument- Wikipedia is not for sale, not to any donors, so even if donations were dropping, that would not mean to me that we should compromise on our principles of quality and neutrality in response to a pressure group My point here is not to say that there is nothing wrong with the article I actually think it needs a fair amount of work. But I want you and others to understand that threatening people is not helpful. I've recently seen web pages in which people who are and I don't know how else to put it vicious assholes - are gathering data to attack the personal lives of volunteers. It is very difficult for me to buy into the notion that gamergate is "really about ethics in journalism when every single experience I have personally had with it involved pro-gg people insulting, threatening, doxxing, etc. No, not all pro-gg people. But there'sa good faith that you are a good person the name gamer gate" is toxic Even if 90% of the supporters are good and 10% are bad, the bad are poisoning the message for everyone. That's not an evaluation of right and wrong, just an observation of a clear fact. You see, a big part of the problem is that #gamergate is not a movement, but a hashtag. And so there is literally no way to have any quality control of any kind. There is no way to see what is or is not a position of gamergate. I have had several people over the past weeks say to me "It is not about mysogyny. I was prepared to believe that. But discussions usually very quickly move to attacking a female game developer for events surrounding her personal life. That's sick. The contingent of people who are interested in putting pressure on institutions within game journalism to expose corruption need an actual organization with a mission statement, with a board of directors, with elected people who represent the movement. Barring that, you should very much expect the media to continue to accurately report that the Gamergate community is associated with online harassment and misogyny. But actually, in fact, it is. I know that may pain you to hear. You thought you were taking part in a movement that would be about ethics in journalism. A movement that would stand for the rights of all gamers. That would welcome women into the world of gaming and would shame those who would engage in personal attacks on the basis of gender. I admire all of those things. But #gamergate has been permanently tarnished and highjacked by a handful of people who are not what you would hope. You might not be the person to lead it. I don't know who is. But I strongly recommend that someone organize a "gamer's union of sorts, with a real mission statement, with real rules, with real organization and leadership Bitching and moaning on a twitter hashtag is getting you nowhere, particularly for the reasons I have outlined in this note. -Jimmy Wales e contingent to the extent that for good people and I respect your letter and assume permalink save roport give gold I've recently seen tumblr accounts of people who are - and I don't know how to put it - vicious assholes- are gathering data to attack the personal lives of people who they think have unacceptable opinions. It is very difficult for me to buy into the notion that feminism is “really about equality', when every single experience I have personally had with it involved feminists insulting, threatening, doxing, etc. No, not all feminists. But there's a huge contingent to the extent that for good people - and I respect your letter and assume good faith that you are a good person-the name “feminism" is toxic. Even if 90% of the supporters are good and 10% are bad, the bad are poisoning the message for everyone. That's not an evaluation of right and wrong, just an observation of a clear fact. You see, a big part of the problem is that feminism is not a movement, but an idea. And so there is literally no way to have any quality control of any kind. There is no way to see what is or is not a position of feminism I have had several people over the past weeks say to me "It is not about misandry." I was prepared to believe that. But discussions very quickly move to attacking males for their sex, sexual orientation, and gender identity. That's sick The contingent of people who are interested in putting pressure on institutions to promote gender equality need an actual organization with a mission statement a board of directors, with elected people who represent the movement. Barring that, you should very much expect the media to continue to accurately report that the feminist community is associated with online harassment and misandry But actually, in fact, it is I know that may pain you to hear. You thought that you were taking part in a movement that would be about equality. A movement that would stand for the rights of all women. That would welcome women into a world of equality and would shame those who would engage in personal attacks on the basis of gender I admire all of those things But feminism has been permanently tarnished and hijacked by a handful of people who are not what you would hope You might not be the person to lead it. I don't know who is. But I strongly recommend that someone organize a "feminist union" of sorts, with a real mission statement, with real rules, with real organization and leadership Bitching and moaning on a tumblr blog is getting you nowhere, particularly for the reasons I have outlined in this note Anonymous

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Dec 19, 2014 at 09:50AM EST

The sad truth I see on Wales' letter is that women are now tokenized. You cannot disagree with or criticize a woman without our comment being applied to all women. I honestly don't know what could possibly be more sexist than that.

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MysticJoJo

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Dec 19, 2014 at 07:29AM EST

You know, it seems like according to Jimmy, there's another page that needs an edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

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