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How to search for an origin.

Last posted Aug 25, 2012 at 06:56PM EDT. Added Dec 03, 2009 at 03:08PM EST
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First, I google all the names that a meme goes by, and read what other press have said about it.
Then I look it up in ED, Urban Dictionary, Lurkmore, Uncyclopedia, whatever other references may have researched it before.
Then I do a Google Insights analysis comparing the terms to see if I can find a beginning date that people first began searching for it. Google Insights doesn’t represent when t first occurred, but when people took interest.

From there I do a “Specific Date Range” search under Google’s “More options” feature, and use the beginning of the trend as my end date, with the beginning generally set to the Year 2000, or prior if the meme seems to be older than that.

From there, I then sort through the search results and try to narrow it down to the earliest appearence. But Google’s date range search feature isn’t perfect because most blogs tend to show up with the date they were started or first archived by Google rather than when the phrase first appears. Forum signatures also lead to a lot of false results. (I pray that we never add signatures here.) It’s kind of a hit-and-miss method that’s better for memes with more unique names.

For memes that are more obviously 4chan-related, checking 4chanarchive.org is usually handy.

And quite often, during all that searching, I end up finding interesting posts in other forums that look like the origin, and then I try to get in contact with the poster so I can ask them questions directly. This is how I found the origin if "every time you masturbate, God kills a kitten.

This is why I always stress for people not to ask “is this a meme” and instead only submit meme entries based on what they already know. Otherwise, they can sit in Submissions for a VERY long time.

this was from chris menning. and is a great way to researched memes. we need to have exerpts from threads detailing how to research a meme, discuss
this please

Last edited Jan 02, 2010 at 01:46PM EST
Dec 03, 2009 at 03:08PM EST
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blubber, i am on a laptop. Normally i’m very proficcent in correct grammer on the internet so your argument is invalid :P

Dec 03, 2009 at 03:30PM EST
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Not yet anyway. Soon though.
Also, thanks Skank! I’m glad you liked it.

Dec 03, 2009 at 05:25PM EST
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I say you should stick this thread with Chriddof videos and animations.

Sep 10, 2011 at 05:02PM EDT

We can also use TinEye to find out where a specific image or group of images came from and how they’re being used. It was useful for me when I was researching for the Starecat / Grafics cat entry.

Nov 05, 2011 at 07:49PM EDT
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Just one problem- How am I going to research people saying “this post” or just “this”
Doing a google search for ‘this’ doesn’t seem very helpful.

Nov 08, 2011 at 01:50AM EST
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Thanks Skank (and Don)! I’ve been doing a fair amount of meme research lately, and had been using several different search engines, but often I would come up with the same images/videos that had already been posted here. So anytime I can find new sources, it’s much appreciated.

Feb 08, 2012 at 09:22AM EST
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This is most helpful for me in my future research,thank you Don and Skankin!

Mar 07, 2012 at 09:24PM EST

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