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KYM Pony General V: We Just Don't Know What Went Wrong

Last posted Jul 01, 2012 at 04:43PM EDT. Added Feb 19, 2012 at 11:27PM EST
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@Emmet Brown:

If you see Verbose's tl;dr, he specifically addresses the issue of South Park's use of derp.

Schellu wrote:

Who was the voice actor for the new voice of Derpy.

Because I feel terrible about how that woman must feel. She thought that Derpy was a guy, and voiced her as such. Later to discover that Derpy isn’t a guy. And then the voice was changed due to trolls or w/e.

The original Voice actress was Tabitha St.Germain, VA for Rarity, Luna and Granny Smith. As for the new voice, we don't know who did it.


Regarding the whole Hasbro receiving complaints thing (don't worry I'm not raging, I'm just wondering outloud) I wonder how many complaints they received in reality. I think many of the complaints were not from soccer moms who don't understand where the term "Derpy" comes from but from some Bronies that didn't like it.

Then again, to make such an edit to a show is kinda drastic. I mean, not even Nintendo changed "evolution" in Pokemon when Churches were decrying it as the spawn of Satan and burning Pikachus in the street. And then we had the whole "spongebob is gay and making kids gay" thing hit national news but the Spongebob guys didn't feel they needed to make Spongebob more "masculine".

So the only two outcomes are that Hasbro are really playing it safe, or they received some serious complaints, either in number or from some very important people.


twins wrote:

Well, I’d rather not start it again, so HOW THE HELL DOES VERBOSE’S TL;DR ONLY HAVE +2?

Because I'm a jealous jerk who cannot deal with reality and accept defeat.

Why do you think I have a Nazi as an avatar?

@Verbose

Wow, just wow. Even I had to TL;DR that.

I was going to explain to Gigatoast why "Derpy" was found offensive so you wouldn't have to do that. I regret not making that decision.

Fortunately you already gave me your explanation in Pony General 4 and I understood it.


@For everyone having trouble understanding Verbose and his explanation as to why "Derp" is offensive

Here's a summary:

If you do not understand why "Derp" has been found offensive that's because you understand how the word originated on the internet and how it is used on the internet.

"Derp" was never invented with the intention of referring to disabled people in particular, that much is true. It originated as a method of expressing googly faces and stupid actions and on the internet that is exactly what we use it for. As such, most people here don't draw the connection between Derp and disability.

But what you may not understand is how "Derp" has been used in real life. From my understanding kids in the school ground have been using "Derp" to mock the special needs kids.

Those kids are flat out wrong in their usage of the word, but they did it anyway. Why? Because kids are assholes. That needs no explanation.

Now here's the thing: Those kids who get insulted by being called "Derps" get their very first impression of the word from that, so do their parents. So those kids don't think "Derp" means 'googly face' or 'stupid action'. They think it means 'you'. And when 'you' is depicted as a cross eyed, slow speeched wall smashing clutz in your favorite cartoon…you may not appreciate it.

You may also ask Hasbro to change it, which you have every right to do.

Starting to make sense now?

So Gigatoast, you can argue all day wether or not "Derp" is offensive to you personally or if the word itself is intentionally offensive or not. If you say it isn't, I would even agree with you. But it doesn't matter now. Someone found it offensive anyway and that the reality of the situation. Complaints were filed, action was taken and history is set in stone. There's nothing you can do about it.


Now Daniel is sick of everyone being melodramatic and overly serious and demands we stay out of his shed, Pyro is being a Drama queen (seriously, wtf?) and Citation hates us even more now.

All because of this Drama…

Enough is enough guys, it's time to put that discussion topic to rest and get on with our lives.

Doesn't matter. I'm still sticking with my deal. You want to harass Hasbro over the word then you must harass the South Park people, and quite frankly, I think if you even tried that, they'd laugh you out of town.

burning_phoneix wrote:

@Emmet Brown:

If you see Verbose's tl;dr, he specifically addresses the issue of South Park's use of derp.

Schellu wrote:

Who was the voice actor for the new voice of Derpy.

Because I feel terrible about how that woman must feel. She thought that Derpy was a guy, and voiced her as such. Later to discover that Derpy isn’t a guy. And then the voice was changed due to trolls or w/e.

The original Voice actress was Tabitha St.Germain, VA for Rarity, Luna and Granny Smith. As for the new voice, we don't know who did it.


Regarding the whole Hasbro receiving complaints thing (don't worry I'm not raging, I'm just wondering outloud) I wonder how many complaints they received in reality. I think many of the complaints were not from soccer moms who don't understand where the term "Derpy" comes from but from some Bronies that didn't like it.

Then again, to make such an edit to a show is kinda drastic. I mean, not even Nintendo changed "evolution" in Pokemon when Churches were decrying it as the spawn of Satan and burning Pikachus in the street. And then we had the whole "spongebob is gay and making kids gay" thing hit national news but the Spongebob guys didn't feel they needed to make Spongebob more "masculine".

So the only two outcomes are that Hasbro are really playing it safe, or they received some serious complaints, either in number or from some very important people.


twins wrote:

Well, I’d rather not start it again, so HOW THE HELL DOES VERBOSE’S TL;DR ONLY HAVE +2?

Because I'm a jealous jerk who cannot deal with reality and accept defeat.

Why do you think I have a Nazi as an avatar?

my mom burned my charizard you nutzi bastard. Thanks for bringing back bad memories.
and stay outta my shed

The quoted post has been deleted.

I'm sick of it too,

I am very, very close to posting AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

If I see one more person complain about Derpy…

Last edited Feb 25, 2012 at 07:19PM EST

Algernon wrote:

I was kinda hoping someone else would do this, but whatever:

SynchTube Room is now open. Come for the ponies, stay for the random banter


(Not sure if 'Dash is a lesbian' joke…)

Edit: I know I just started it, but I won't be there for the first five minutes or so. I'll be back very soon, promise!
Edit2: I'm back, but why is nobody else here?

I could be wrong, but I think it has something to do with the way captain price always says lez do dis at the start of every SAS match in modern warfare.

Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:

I'm sick of it too,

I am very, very close to posting AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

If I see one more person complain about Derpy…


YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:

I'm sick of it too,

I am very, very close to posting AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

If I see one more person complain about Derpy…

Look to the top of this page. I ninja'd you by about 10 posts.

Derpy Vaz wrote:

my mom burned my charizard you nutzi bastard. Thanks for bringing back bad memories.
and stay outta my shed

But Diamond Tiara said if I go in there I can get mah cutie mark!

dac wrote:

I could be wrong, but I think it has something to do with the way captain price always says lez do dis at the start of every SAS match in modern warfare.

It's actually Gaz/Ghost (they both have the same VA) who says it, not Price.

OH GOD I'M A CAWWADUTY FAG!

Last edited Feb 25, 2012 at 07:23PM EST

@BSOD
Well thanks for at least citing an example, that's really all I needed. I don't think I can ever be sure that's really true, I doubt that's the real cause of the problem, and it's still a reeeaaaly flimsy insult, but at least I have some kind of context.

Me and Verbs are gunna keep talking for a while in private, please continue your poni.

Last edited Feb 25, 2012 at 07:33PM EST

Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:

I'm sick of it too,

I am very, very close to posting AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

If I see one more person complain about Derpy…

Allow me to complain about Derpy…

Last edited Feb 25, 2012 at 07:34PM EST

@Giga

Well I don't know for certain for either but it's the best lead I could establish after doing plenty of digging.

Flimsy insult? Yes, but remember we're talking about the school playground here. It doesn't take much to really sting a kid

Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:

@Giga

Well I don't know for certain for either but it's the best lead I could establish after doing plenty of digging.

Flimsy insult? Yes, but remember we're talking about the school playground here. It doesn't take much to really sting a kid

Unfortunatly, it's just to bad that flimsy insults ruin it for everbody. As I mentioned though, I wouldn't be as annoyed if the new dub wasn't so half assed.

It is a long shot, but if a box set ever does get made, I hope they use the unaltered version, otherwise I'll have to skip that episode, which would be a shame since non Derpy wise it was good.

It is a long shot, but if a box set ever does get made, I hope they use the unaltered version, otherwise I’ll have to skip that episode, which would be a shame since non Derpy wise it was good.

What did I say earlier?

Oh yea

Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:

It is a long shot, but if a box set ever does get made, I hope they use the unaltered version, otherwise I’ll have to skip that episode, which would be a shame since non Derpy wise it was good.

What did I say earlier?

Oh yea

Can we something other than derelles though?

They make me sad. A pack of wild derelles murdered my family and burned down my peasant village :(

@Phoneix

Alright, how about an image dump?

Why is octavia art always so…elegant?

GLaDoS turned Dash into a companion cube. Scoot doesn't complain…

The last time Hot Blooded Pinkie gets invited to a wedding.

Anthro Luna

Last edited Feb 25, 2012 at 08:14PM EST

AHHHHHHHH I STILL HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING CAN SOMEONE TELL ME PLEASE? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAVE SOME WOONA AND STONED TRIXIE!


Edit: WHY DO I SPEAK IN CAPS IN THIS THREAD AND WHY AM I ALWAYS YELLING? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Last edited Feb 25, 2012 at 08:43PM EST

I find myself being able to follow these threads less and less…


Despite how I originally reacted, I actually quite like new Derpy voice better.

That was my attempt at making this post pony related.

That is all.

Cite wrote:

May I ask why you like Screwball so much, by the way?

Long answer: I'm a background pony hipster.

Longer answer: Seh spreads chaos and doesnt afraid of anything.

Short answer:

Last edited Feb 25, 2012 at 09:23PM EST

Dac wrote:

May I ask why you like commander Shepard so much, by the way?

Because he fights Reapers and doesn't afraid of anything.
And this is just a temporary name change until ME3 comes out. I saw the opportunity for a pun and had to take it.

Dac-attack!!! wrote:

Does anyone here have Xbox live?


I know badsitrep does.

Last edited Feb 25, 2012 at 09:39PM EST

WTF? I just downloaded Last roundup yesterday, that is, after iTunes took it down, but derpy is cross eyed and completely intact.
Mabye its because I bought the season pass or something, but I didn't have it up until yesterday. Not kidding. Can everyone double check theirs or something. Thats kinda strange.

burning_phoneix wrote:

The reiterate your questions, I'm not really getting it. You seem to say that discussing an episode is bad somehow? And that we don't post things from other boards or websites? (when have we done that really) or discuss how ponies are a meme?

We always posting silly pictures around here, more than we talk I think. Hell, I am obligated to throw in a funny or cute picture with every post because I'm afraid people will scroll past my text.

Allow me to try and explain this in a broader way.

I still have two pages to catch up to, but fuck that. I was away today.


What Daniel means is that the fandom is starting to split up. For examples I will name a list of groups. These might be incorrect and a lot of variety is possible between them. But I'll just use them to discuss the main things.

Do note that everything is based on people that actually are bronies, big and small. And grammar might suck here and there, but I'm not in a mood to check for mistakes. Deal with it.


1. Perhaps best to be described as the hardcore bronies. They join in most of the discussions and love doing so. Often overanalyzing the show, they are aware of everything that happens. These people commonly make the tl;dr posts.

2. Daniel's example descibed this group as just ponyfags. They just want to have fun in the fandom. They don't care if Derpy is renamed to Baloney, grows a fourth eye, and gets a cutie mark of a turd with green dots. They just want to have fun. Let this be through image macros, comics, random art, dumb posts. The more random, the better. As long as it's fun.


I keep it with these two to follow Daniel's example. Most people probably fit in both groups, having something in common with both.

Both groups can get butthurt. But over different stuff.

Group 1 tends to get butthurt over stuff like Derpy. Having a fully fledged headcanon, change is not something they like to see. They tend to forget it's just a cartoon. Whereas group 2 mainly gets annoyed over group 1. Don't liking all the butthurt and the constant overanalyzing. It's not the random fun they want to see. Often breaking tension by posting images. But as these image posts might turn into spam, group 1 tends to get annoyed.


But don't forget we're all part of the same fandom. Being part of a fandom is a give and take. Not everything goes as you want it. So sometimes you should deal with it and man the fuck up.

Come on people, it's a fucking cartoon for little girls about magical ponies!

I'm seriously wondering why I even typed this piece of crap post.

Skeletor-sm

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