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@Derpy situation

I recall a fair amount of bronies being offended at Derpy. And in a way, Hasbro did overdo it. Derpy's voice was off, and let's face it, "derp" has been used plenty of times to indicated a stupid mistake.

And even if anti-bronies were behind all this, its still best to drop it. Many of the animators and people at Hasbro were very annoyed by our rantings, and like the saying goes, "Don't bite the hand that feeds you." Our reaction to Derpy's removal would have been exactly what the anti-bronies wanted: to show us as a bunch of mad, craving lunatics, which we essentially were. Bringing this up again isn't going to help fix our reputation or end the hate we get, its only going to revive it.

I would love to have Derpy's voice back, but it isn't worth the trouble and humiliation. Besides, my life already kind of sucks without reviving this topic.

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Its not a matter of me not agreeing with him or a difference in opinion. It's just that his claims are unsubstantiated. Who exactly is he? How is he so close to hasbro?
Also, about the letter. I suppose it could have been written by a troll, buts that pure speculation and nothing more. Thats all this guys theory seems to be based on, speculation, and wasn't the last episodes moral that you shouldn't just jump to conclusions before you get the facts?

Do you guys think this is the cutest thing or what?

See the thing with Derpy sitation is. We've been over this so many times, so much time has passed. We've raged.

It gets really really annoying when people bring it up again.

My intention was not to cause a flame war, I just tried to show you that there was still hope. I’m sorry if my words caused such an impression.

Bringing up such a sensitive topic means getting a flamewar. And getting people pissed.

And 'hope' for what? What happened? Someone died or, was there a world war? Its a minor edit. By a toy company. They did it to protect their reputation. If hasbro tortured children we would get the army and the tanks and murder each and every person working for hasbro. But thats not the case.

Its a tiny, simple, little edit. Stop obsessing over it. This simple, little edit is not worth the nerves, emotions and trouble.

I wasn't accusing you of starting a flame war, I'm just asking what would we accomplish by bringing Derpy's voice back? The Derpy situation as a whole brought attention to us from everyone, and the image we projected wasn't good as a whole. Attempting to bring Derpy back again will just reinforce that image. The image that we're insane, ravenous fan boys that gets worked up about anything pony related.

@Frage33

I think the word "hope" was too strong for what I tried to say. I am not trying to start any flame wars or trying to kill anyone, I just wanted to tell you all about the theory.

@Dac-attack

I may not have the answers for this. Try asking EBeck directly.

@Muffinator

We'll only look like "insane, ravenous fan boys" if we react in a wrong way.
And just the act of trying to fix the symbol of our community is not something that makes us look like that. It's not a "wrong way to react".

Another conspiracy theory eh?

The whole "derpy was changed by anti-bronies" makes sense at first, like all other conspiracy theories do. However, they all fall apart when you realize there are too many assumptions and givens in order for the theories to work.

No haters could possibly take down MLP without anyone else on the internet knowing about it. It was most definitely extremely overprotective parents who get defensive over everything and has to hide their poor little child from everything that's supposedly wrong with the world.

After the initial bump, I believe Hasbro has handed the Derpy situation rather well. She appears repeatedly, with even more screen time, in the past few episodes (she was appeared in Hurricane Fluttershy a good 3 or so times), meaning the animators still love putting her in as a reference to the fans. I'd argue to say that the animators and writers are actually on our side, and want to put her in more and more. It's just the demands of those idiotic parents that make Hasbro restrain them from doing so.

We really don't need to bring this up again. EBeck is far too late to be able to get the community to do anything. While his efforts are noble, they will only cause the further decadence of the brony fandom, and should be ignored.

"We’ll only look like “insane, ravenous fan boys” if we react in a wrong way.
And just the act of trying to fix the symbol of our community is not something that makes us look like that. It’s not a “wrong way to react”."

I disagree, that shows that we obsess over trivial things. They already gave us a lot by having her speak in " the last roundup", they've had her as a background character ever since they found out we liked her, and even after the whole fiasco, she still is in the show. What more do we need?

EVERYONE DOUBTING MY CAMPAIGN, LISTEN TO MY WORDS!!!! My name is EBecK, as you can tell, and I lead the Derpy Deliverence campaign to restore Derpy. Yes, I will have proof in due time that Hasbro has taken my theory into deep consideration. They knew about the Anti-Derpy fans, for they had made comments on their dA pages. They see my theory as a possible way out of this, to restore Derpy, because that's what they want. My theory is merely that; a theory, neither true nor false until proven otherwise. Derpy may still be here, but something is missing: her addressing of name, her derpy-suited voice, and though her eyes were fixed, they still have yet to alter that scece. HOWEVER, it's not just the scene, it's the future. When my proof arrives, I shall tell you that by restoring Derpy, we set her path on becoming a higher standing character that can speak without suppression. If Hasbro sees this as a possible way to her restoration, then no, it is NOT an old, healed wound, for there is still mourning. Haven't you noticed the vulnerability that bronies have suffered to trolling comments and hatefulness? By restoring Derpy, we restore that value of love and tolerance. Those of you who think this is worthless, then why is it that I've made it this far? Because, my friends, this is worth more than you can imagine. You once fought for Derpy before, then gave up after the statement, but it left something; a void needing to be filled. There will always be conflict in the world, by restoring Derpy, we can lessen that conflict. Now, about the bronies taking offense…do you think they spoke truth? Do you think they even considered what Derpy meant to the community? Or were they just afraid of what might come of this, i.e the complaints? They needed to see that Hasbro meant no offense and judging by the numerous amount of comments that stated that they had some kind of disability or problem, yet took no offense, must mean that no offense was intended, therefore no offense should be taken. Why? Because it's a kids show, they creators are trying to give a shoutout to the bronies, and it's been removed because folks didn't consider the feelings of others? Why is it that they can't be TOLERANT about it? 'Oh, they meant no offense, so it isn't worth complaining about', that is what should've happened, and the world would've been a little more nicer. Unfortunately, that's not how the world works, as long as there is still conflict about this and there is still a lesser value of love and tolerance, I can't stop, and neither should you. Hasbro thinks this is worth it, and I shall provide proof in due time, be patient. We aren't tainted ourselves for doing this, we are standing up for our beliefs, we are asserting ourselves instead of just accepting whatever fate has to offer. Isn't that what the show teaches? The complaints sent used all these harsh words, what kind of self-respecting parent who valued the show's image would say that? They wouldn't. There is way too much that doesn't make sense, my theory gave Hasbro a possible way to resolve it all. You don't believe me now, but give me your time and patience, and I shall provide. I am unsure if I have tackled everything, so please, come at me with all your might, and I shall provide you with answers. Derpy is important to all, and I love her. I'm not about to let something I love be slandered like this! So, please, have at me now!

I agree, we should be happy for what we have and for what they have already done for us. If they want to make her talk again I'm sure they will, they probably realize that (in general) the fandom would love it.

Just hold your horses (pun intended) and calm down. They're not taking Derpy away. Heck, it looks like they're bringing DJ-PON3 back for the finale, so let's just be glad about that! Maybe she'll even speak…

@ EBeck

Its a kids show. Its not a war.

Everything is fine as is.

This thread needs more pony.

@Frage33

Ivan? Is that you?

It was a kids show before this incident, yet people complained. I believe we should have the right to counter there complaints. No sir, everything isn't fine as it is, for there is still those who want Derpy restored and there are those who continue their verbal assault on Derpy's loss. When did I ever say it was a war? War with who? I'm merely stating my opinion, and Hasbro accepted it. There might be conflict, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna stop. You can choose not to get involved, if you want, that's your decision, but I do ask you respect my opinion. Good day, sir.

How about this: We wait first, see how this "campaign" concludes.

It's easy to think of conspiracies, trolls, traps, etc. But it won't get you far.

As for me?

I simply do not care. It was nice to have Derpy in the show, but I'd continue living if it never happened. Unfortunately some of you just had to make an issue out of it.

You do not create the show, Hasbro does. So stop being so goddamn selfish.

It's a cartoon for little girls about magical horses.

The next page better have a switch of topic. This Derpy thing always causes butthurt and shitstorms.

Do what the rabbit says.

Or he'll fuck yer shit.

You underestimate our potential. And using such language on me will weaken your argument, sir. I'm well aware of what the show is and who created it, however, the folks who created it have accepted my opinion and took it into consideration. How can one be selfish when one speaks for many? You think negative of my cause, however, you are not the first, therefore you shall not convince me or anyone supporting me otherwise. I can assure you that we shall be successful, for we have faith. It's a cartoon for little girls, yet you and other grown men watch it….that argument is quite pointless to any brony, sir, for they enjoy the show, and there is nothing wrong with that, nor is there anything wrong for stating my or your opinion. You do not have to agree with me, but cease your slander, for THAT, sir, won't get your far. Good day.

HAVE SOME WOONA DAMN YOU.

@ EBeck

First off, ur sounding like a dick. And that means people won't listen to you.
2nd. thats a mod. Don't talk like that around mods.

Im sure you gave people a positive impression. I mean ur the nicest, most understanding person
on KYM and everyone just listens to you…

oh wait…

no…

You sound rude, rude people are ignored faster.

What cause? Wtf are you talkin about? Its a show for kids. You're overthinking this.

Stuff's about to get real.

Let's just calm down…

I claim this page in the name of Twilight Sparkle. Aka "best pony".

Don't deny it. You know it's true.

Btw, anyone on here have some tumblrs they would like to recommend?

Perhaps I was a bit harsh. Nonetheless this entire Derpy situation is causing butthurt with many. For that reason, many rather not have it mentioned. Leave it behind, being aware it's in the past. People like me simply choose to ignore it. Shit's going to happen, so why make a huge issue out of it. And last, we have people like you. Who can't give up and will not finish before they get what they want. You might do this for the greater good, but that doesn't automatically justify your actions.

If one does not think of the negative factors his actions may cause, he will never succeed in creating a positive outcome. You tell me you have faith, that you shall be succesful. But that is where you think wrong. There is always the possibility you don't succeed. So what are you going to do then? Keep trying until infinity? Or accept the facts and move one? The first option might make you a noble fighter, but it does not make you a wise man as well. The past has happened, perhaps you just have to learn to deal with it. Maybe everyone does. Hasbro listens to the fans, but that doesn't give the fans authority over the entire show.

But you go ahead with your campaign. Whether you'll succeed or not is something the future will tell us. But don't think that everything you do is for the greater good, that you will certainly succeed. That is when you get too full of yourselves.

Plus your argumentation sucks. My language makes my arguments invalid? That's not an argument, that's an excuse. If you are willing to continue a campaign, at least know how to decently have discussions with people not agreeing with you. Your actions aren't automatically justified because you think they're for the best.

I don't even know why I typed this.

Page is over, I better have my switch of topic now.

Hit me Twilight.

Twilight Sporkle.

As I said, there is nothing wrong with presenting one's opinion, no matter who you present it to. You, sir, are underthinking this, for Derpy means much more than a simple character. I have made no rude comments, sir, I merely stated my opinion. I have gained the support of many, therefore I cannot believe what you say about me. As I told him, cease your slander, and just stay out of my way, if you don't agree. I can respect that if you respect my opinion. That's all.

@EBeck
We respect your opinions, however, do not try to force it upon us. The KYM brony community is a pretty laidback and moderate one, and we try our best to avoid flame wars, whether it's rule 34, grimdark fics, or even the whole derpy thing that passed a few months ago. If your intention is to gain more supporters here, all you're doing right now is further discrediting your own theory.

All of us here love Derpy, and trying to incite a revolution is going to hurt her image even more. You said it yourself that the brony community cares less about love and tolerance after the incident.

If you really want to convince us, please provide some logical evidence, instead of acting like you have an entire cult dedicated to doing whatever your bidding is.

@ the post below me:

@Ebeck
To be fair, we respect your opinion, but not the way you present it.

I do have faith in my cause and that will not change. People made a huge issue out of Derpy in the first place and if I were to use your logic, I'd ask why too. However, they got their way, and folks didn't like that. So why I can't I do the same? When I say I shall be successful, it shows that I am confident, not ignorant. I am well aware of failure being possible, and should my options run dry, I may stop. However, I still have options and I am going quite far, I find it premature to stop now. Not everything I do is for the greater good, sir, for this is NOT everything I do. I merely want to lessen the conflict between folks that don't give a flying feather and those who care, for I doubt many folks would raise an objection should Derpy be restored. I don't claim to be wise, or some kind of hero, I merely see what happened to the value of love and tolerance and decided to act upon it. I do agree that whether I succeed or not is up to time, but I plan to do everything in my ability to see it through.

Also, I never said your language makes your argument invalid, sir, I merely said it weakened that potential. No one likes anyone who would use such language, for it provokes anger and hate. However, I see such words as waste of breath for an argument, that's why I choose not to use them. I did say that if you don't agree with me, you didn't have to support me. I never said my actions were best, I said they would help. But as you said, only time will tell. I feel that whoever does want to help shall help and whoever doesn't…doesn't. Simple as that. I do believe the conversation ends here, sir. Good day.

@Ebeck
"No one likes anyone who would use such language,"

I like Randomman…
the way you talk about the cause makes it seem like you have a messiah complex. Take it easy, derpy is still here.

Bipolar Rarity
Moonstuck
The Cutie Mark Crusaders

Those are the three I have bookmarked.

And, by the way, that's not how you spell Applejack.

Whatever, I'll humor you.

I merely want to lessen the conflict between folks that don’t give a flying feather and those who care,

Most people are over that conflict. Anyone still pissed at it should learn to move on.

Now that the mods told us to shut up about this. I will.
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I love you all. :D

Have some diabeetus.
And because Sweetie Belle and Rarity are best ponis:

@EBecK

Just shut the fuck up you self-righteous bastard.

Wow. The thread actually moved today! Even if it was due to a shitstorm, it's still progress.

Now, time for pony!

Shake dat plot.

@EBeck

You should read this. In my personal opinion, with your best interests in mind:

• You should stop this campaign. As it stands, your logic will be torn to shreds. My link should show you that.
• I really hope you don't believe this. Lauren Faust doesn't even work on the show anymore.

We are done with it here. Feel free to PM me or post on my wall about it, but this topic (much like R34) isn't taken well here.

Pinky wonders why are you people and why are you obsessed with the purple unicorn!
Don't you see the earth ponies are the master race? Yes!
Unicorns are filthy and should be poisoned by pastries!
But it is a honor to meet you all! Once you will be part of Pinky's death collection!

Now Pinky needs to have Applejack to bake those cupcakes once again with those worms!
But this time to make sure she crushed that highlander worm that survived the first batch! Yes!
[[My Little Pony Mentally Advanced Series FTW!!]]

Wait a sec…

What if that shitstorm by BNMs was to move the thread faster? To have more posts? And its all meaningless crap created to produce more pages.

It seems even Verbose can get a field day of work with the right topic.

But yeah, you just crushed nearly all of his arguments.

I'd be suprised if he'll be able to respond to that with perfect logic. I'm expecting something in the way of "I'll try nonetheless, have faith, blabla, etc.".

But I agree with you. There are worse things in the world we should bother with instead of this. Each of us had our share of hardships in live, some more than others. Such a thing as Derpy is reaching the negatives compared to that. I don't have much to add to all the other parts. You pretty much nailed it. You even gave some of my arguments more value.

And I'm seriously done with the topic of Derpy. Overreacting everywhere. My apologies if this sounds offensive towards your effort of creating that document.

dac wrote:

@Connor
The only reason I asked is because I was curious and had a hunch you were gay. But yeah, no one here cares. Are we the only ones you have told? If you don’t mind me asking. Also, do you find me hot( see the show yourself thread, that pic is
from more than two years ago now)? Again, if you don’t mind me asking.

Yeah, opspe and pyro knew, now I've told all you guys. I told one of my IRL friends, she took it better than expected. She also said that she had guessed at that, I must really suck at hiding who I am. :P

As for your pic: lolidunno Yer not bad looking though.

This thread needs moar pony and less shitstorms!

I agree, Connor.

Y'all bitches ready for some mother-bucking heavy metal?!

>MFW:

@connor
Idunno!? Just idunno!?!? I'll upload a shirtless pic to show of my perfect physique eventually, and then we will see who is "not bad"! Humph!

Good luck beating my physical physique.

@ anyone who was fighting.

And we shall move on to a more important topic… Ponies, because that is this threads purpose.

Im offensive and I find that very gay.

@Everyone

I've been thinking about this for quite a while, and I think I should apologize.

I am really sorry for bringing a dead topic back, and I'm really sorry for causing such a flame war.
These were not my intentions, I just wanted to share something that I thought it made sense.

I don't mind if you think EbecK's theory might be wrong, just don't think that he came up with it for any bad intentions.

However, if you're still considering it, I'm going to keep this here, so you can come up with your own conclusions.

I wasn't trying to force anyone to believe him, I just wanted you guys to know that he exists.

And NOW, I'll stop posting about this topic.

Oh, and SPIKE IS BEST PONY!!!

I'm sexy and I know it.