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KYM Pony General V: We Just Don't Know What Went Wrong

Last posted Jul 01, 2012 at 04:43PM EDT. Added Feb 19, 2012 at 11:27PM EST
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Cite wrote:

What "tough guy" attitude are you talking about? All I'm trying to do is help someone you people do nothing but rank on, and you insult me for that? Really?

To be honest, it's been a long time coming. It's not just for today. You are always making snarky little comments and giving off the impression that you think you are better than us. Whatever though. Also, jolly Jew brought it on himself by posting that and nobody really said anything other than the joke I made. Anyways, et tu Brutus? You sent ideo away with comments that put anything on this page to shame. Why are you acting like a victim? You know that you have a tendancy to be kind of a jerk. Just watch what you say is all I'm trying to say.
Like I said, I was a little harsh and for that I apologize.

EVERYBODY CHILL THE FUCK OUT!

Arguing, fighting, insulting, and acting like pricks.

That's what we've fallen to.

Does that sound like something that we, as bronies, should do. We're supposed to love and tolerate everybody, especially each other. If JJ feels that the Derpy issue is unfair, that's his opinion. We don't need to flip our shits at him. Likewise, he doesn't need to flip his shits at us.

If Cite wants to ask us to stop, let him. I was getting tired of it, too, but whatever. I honestly don't care whether he shares his opinions.

I do care that you guys down vote him to oblivion. That goes against what we stand for.

You're all idiots. This is why I don't come here anymore. Feel free to downvote me for this post. I don't regret, nor do I believe I'm being too harsh.

(Note: This is towards certain people. I'm not naming anyone, but you should know who you are. If you really don't, there's no salvation for you.)

Edit: I could go into more detail, but I'm too lazy. Not to mention, you guys seem to glance over ALL tl;drs, so it would be pointless.

Last edited Apr 19, 2012 at 04:04PM EDT

Dac wrote:

To be honest, it's been a long time coming. It's not just for today. You are always making snarky little comments and giving off the impression that you think you are better than us. Whatever though. Also, jolly Jew brought it on himself by posting that and nobody really said anything other than the joke I made. Anyways, et tu Brutus? You sent ideo away with comments that put anything on this page to shame. Why are you acting like a victim? You know that you have a tendancy to be kind of a jerk. Just watch what you say is all I'm trying to say.
Like I said, I was a little harsh and for that I apologize.

Do you want to fucking know why I act the way I do? It's things like this, right here. Whenever I try to act nice, nothing happens except I get attacked and insulted by other people, and often the people I try to help. You think I wanted Ideo to leave? Well you're dead wrong. I didn't want anything like that. You think I'm glad he's gone? I'm not. The last thing I want is the same thing to happen to Jolly Jew, and the more you people insult him, the more I'm afraid it's going to happen.
Stop trying to act like you know me when you don't.
Also, the actual quote is "Et tu, Brute?", not "Brutus". Brutus was the translation. And you misused it.
Goodbye.

@Thread

DOUBLE FACEHOOF ACTIVATE

Can we stop with the negging please? It's alright when someone says something really unhelpful (e.g. calling someone a shitlord or trying to make us go on a Save Derpy crusade), but Cite's comments really didn't deserve that. He said exactly what I thought when I read everyone's responses to JJ. The part where he said "I seriously wonder why I still talk to you people sometimes" may have sounded a little harsh, but that's just Cite's personal brand of snark.

As I wrote this, Cite made a few more comments, and got negged further. In his last comment, he said that he regretted making Ideo leave (though whether or not it was entirely his fault is still up to debate), and yet he still got negged. What the hell, thread?


Edit:
>Asks everyone to stop negging where there's no reason for it
>Gets negged

Fine, whatever.

I know some of you think Cite was being an ass there, but he really wasn't. He was trying to stand up for someone that he thought was receiving a lot of unnecessary hate. Even if you disagree with him, is that really such a bad thing?

Last edited Apr 19, 2012 at 04:22PM EDT

Okay, I'll post this.

Cite defended a person and you all vote him down for it? Yeah, that's a real smart move. Congratulations jackasses, you've reinforced the idea that standing up for someone is a bad idea.

Have a medal.

Edit: Of course this will be voted down, you people can't handle criticism.

Last edited Apr 19, 2012 at 04:14PM EDT

Okay fine. I'm done with this place. I would constantly call you all friends and so I lurked here and laughed with all of you as I read your posts.

But now I'm done. None of you can take criticism at all. You hide behind your negkarmas and rid yourselves of every opinion that does not suit your own. You're afraid to face the truth, that maybe there are some people who just don't agree with you. You should be ashamed to wave that motto you hold so close to yourselves.

As I said, I once called you friends. Now, I just don't give two shits. You can burn in hell with your hypocrisy. I'm done with this thread. Fuck you guys.

Clean up your act, it's the only hope you have.

(Note: Once again, this isn't to everyone, just certain people.)

And Dac, you're no one to call anyone elitist. Keep that in mind.

Ok, everybody, I am sorry. I should have not posted that here. I should have just pm'd him but I didn't because at the time I didn't think it that big a deal. I was wrong and also I was way too harsh. I just read his comment and took it the wrong way I guess. Im really sorry citation.
I had no intention of getting everyone so angry. I didnt think this would happen. Can we just put this behind us and start the thread again with a good discussion? No negging, no arguing, just using this thread for what it is for, discussing ponies.

I'm gonna make a seperate post for a bit of criticism.

You all make no sense, no exceptions.


@Jolly Jew

Thank you for understanding. Derpy is a touchy subject. We all would appreciate it if you don't bring it up anymore. You have seen what it might cause.


@Dac-attack

If you think Cite is a prick, why do you lower your own posts to that level? Cite might do it a bit more than the common users, but those posts make you no better.


@Citation

Being a dick or not, Dac was a bit correct. You often behave a bit like a prick. I know you want to be accepted, but this requires effort from yourself as well. Nonetheless, such a massive negvote was unnecessary.


@Bob

You were one of the people which I didn't expect this from. I agree with you that this page is just full of idiots, but that last post was harsh and unneeded. If you no longer care about this thread, why are you still posting here? That post makes you no better than the people you're trying to reach.


@All of the above

My apologies for saying that. But it was needed.

It's probably also the heat of the moment, so I advice most of the people here who feel rustled to just close the tab and return tomorrow. After you get some sleep and thought about your actions you often feel better.

If you want to release some frustation, do it on me. Otherwise take it to PM and/or walls, but not here.


@Verbose, Explosive Lasers & Algernon

Thank you for staying reasonable and trying to solve the situation.


@The rest

Thank you for not making things worse (besides perhaps some jimmies images).


Last message though: If you guys can't handle idiots and criticism, what the fuck are you doing on the internet?


I hate to throw in the mod card, but I'm gonna do it.

Next person being a dick will be given a warning. After that you only have yourselves to blame for any consequenses that might follow if you continue.

Last edited Apr 19, 2012 at 05:30PM EDT

>Try to post pony help to lighten the situation somewhat with the whole shit storm as a distraction to bend the shit storm away from thread.
>Get -6 karma.
So me trying to help makes things back to normal suddenly a bad thing?
If you don't think so, please tell me why. I am serious because I was trying to put some funny back in so we can feel better and have this past us.

Edit: Or is this coming from non-common users? I smell karma trolls…

Last edited Apr 19, 2012 at 05:29PM EDT

I apologized and took all the blame. I'm not sure why that warranted all that negakarma.

Anyways, the next episode is only 1 day away, what do you guys think is the secret that she is hiding? And what's with the clones?

@ random man
Yeah, I choose my words poorly as well and I should have just talked to him in private. What's done is done and all I can do now Is say I'm sorry.

@ric
Hmm, I hope so.

Last edited Apr 19, 2012 at 05:33PM EDT

Dac wrote:

I apologized and took all the blame. I'm not sure why that warranted all that negakarma.

Anyways, the next episode is only 1 day away, what do you guys think is the secret that she is hiding? And what's with the clones?

@ random man
Yeah, I choose my words poorly as well and I should have just talked to him in private. What's done is done and all I can do now Is say I'm sorry.

@ric
Hmm, I hope so.

So you all thought I was being insensitive or are you say that to the part where I think there might be karma trolls? (I am just trying to clarify).
Also for ponies:

Last edited Apr 19, 2012 at 06:04PM EDT

Ric Te$l@ wrote:

So you all thought I was being insensitive or are you say that to the part where I think there might be karma trolls? (I am just trying to clarify).
Also for ponies:

No, I was saying we have karma trolls I think. I don't think regular posters would downvote apologies taking all the blame or something completely unrelated. This post I quoted has 4 negakarma for some reason. It must be trolls.

Anyways, let's discuss Saturday's 2 parter everybody!

>Comes in for my daily dose of pony thread
>Starts reading posts
>Sees there's been another shitstorm
>mfw

I won't say anything about the ones involved or say I'm tired of this place. Just want you to know that I thought we were done with this kinds of things here.

Now, if you'll excuse, I'll be back to my pony posting.

Seriously guys? I specifically called for an image war page on the page get, not a flame war…

I went ahead and up voted all the negative posts, because they were seriously unwarranted. JJ, Cite, Dac, and Ric did sound a bit butthurt and prickish, but that's no reason to neg bomb them. It happens to all of us sometimes, and we shouldn't punish them unjustly for it. Remember what happened when the Allies destroyed Germany's economy, prosperity, and military after WWI? Hitler ring a bell?

To all you invisible 12 negative karma givers, I say nay to your actions. I'm not going to blame anyone on this thread, though. As far as we know, it could be a bunch of anti-brony trolls negging everyone, trying to ruin our happy little place on the web.

Well, it's not working. Please, get out before I'm forced to do something drastic.

Or, if some of those negs are coming from our very own little community here, remember, karma doesn't do anything. Don't think you're helping anyone after the post is already hidden with -5 karma, and worse, don't just continually neg posts just because someone disagree with you. Karma bombing every one of Cite and Ric's posts was extremely undeserved. They were overreacting, and behaving poorly, but we could talk to them calmly instead of using the force of a – button to signal our disapproval.

After all, we didn't neg bomb MisterDude1337's post on page 74 that brought up Derpy again, didn't we (inb4 someone does)? No, we had a calm discussion on it, and although jimmies were rustled, no flame war started.

And that was the end of our innocence self-control. After that post, the thread never would be the same. Anyone who mentioned Derpy's change or showed the slightest bit of rage in their posts would be negged to oblivion.

And that's stupid.

RandomMan wrote:

MLP OC Ponies in a nutshell:

OC character in a nutshell*

Seriously. It's this way with most fandoms.

It just so happens that people like to make OC ponies that are so edgy you need band-aids.

Edit: @Ric: He's a cyborg scientist with lightning and machinery I doubt ponies have.

I see no problems whatsoever.

Last edited Apr 19, 2012 at 07:35PM EDT

No one wants to discuss the episode? Okay…

Also, brad bird needs to get his shit together and direct the incredibles 2, not mission im-poo-sible ghost protocol. Also Iron Giant 2

Last edited Apr 19, 2012 at 07:52PM EDT

Twins the Serendipitous Serval wrote:

Seriously guys? I specifically called for an image war page on the page get, not a flame war…

I went ahead and up voted all the negative posts, because they were seriously unwarranted. JJ, Cite, Dac, and Ric did sound a bit butthurt and prickish, but that's no reason to neg bomb them. It happens to all of us sometimes, and we shouldn't punish them unjustly for it. Remember what happened when the Allies destroyed Germany's economy, prosperity, and military after WWI? Hitler ring a bell?

To all you invisible 12 negative karma givers, I say nay to your actions. I'm not going to blame anyone on this thread, though. As far as we know, it could be a bunch of anti-brony trolls negging everyone, trying to ruin our happy little place on the web.

Well, it's not working. Please, get out before I'm forced to do something drastic.

Or, if some of those negs are coming from our very own little community here, remember, karma doesn't do anything. Don't think you're helping anyone after the post is already hidden with -5 karma, and worse, don't just continually neg posts just because someone disagree with you. Karma bombing every one of Cite and Ric's posts was extremely undeserved. They were overreacting, and behaving poorly, but we could talk to them calmly instead of using the force of a – button to signal our disapproval.

After all, we didn't neg bomb MisterDude1337's post on page 74 that brought up Derpy again, didn't we (inb4 someone does)? No, we had a calm discussion on it, and although jimmies were rustled, no flame war started.

And that was the end of our innocence self-control. After that post, the thread never would be the same. Anyone who mentioned Derpy's change or showed the slightest bit of rage in their posts would be negged to oblivion.

And that's stupid.

I don't think I was meaning to sound dickish, I was actually kind of sick of this complaining about Derpy that I suggested to post ponies, but I guess it did made me sound like a dick and I am sorry, that was not my intentions.

What I am sick of is all the karma lately, it has been going wacky, not only in this thread but others as well, positive karma and negative karma alike. I swear it's kind of annoying and I wonder if it's even possible for any of us to know who exactly is doing it.

I hope the mods can figure this out soon, because karma is being abused like no other.

Ric Te$l@ wrote:

I don't think I was meaning to sound dickish, I was actually kind of sick of this complaining about Derpy that I suggested to post ponies, but I guess it did made me sound like a dick and I am sorry, that was not my intentions.

What I am sick of is all the karma lately, it has been going wacky, not only in this thread but others as well, positive karma and negative karma alike. I swear it's kind of annoying and I wonder if it's even possible for any of us to know who exactly is doing it.

I hope the mods can figure this out soon, because karma is being abused like no other.

Don't worry, I never for a second there thought you didn't anything particularly wrong. There wasn't anything wrong in your posts, people just went crazy with the negging, and once some guy sensed a hint of rage (that wasn't there) in your posts, the neg bandwagon kept on going. Also, complaining about getting negative karma only got you more.

Apology accepted

This is exactly the kind of abuse I anticipated happening back in late February: https://knowyourmeme.com/forums/site-related/topics/14261-the-karma-system. We had a pretty good discussion about it, and we came to the consensus that the system was good, and no one would really take the time to abuse it.

And then this happened.

Last edited Apr 19, 2012 at 08:02PM EDT

Twins the Serendipitous Serval wrote:

Don't worry, I never for a second there thought you didn't anything particularly wrong. There wasn't anything wrong in your posts, people just went crazy with the negging, and once some guy sensed a hint of rage (that wasn't there) in your posts, the neg bandwagon kept on going. Also, complaining about getting negative karma only got you more.

Apology accepted

This is exactly the kind of abuse I anticipated happening back in late February: https://knowyourmeme.com/forums/site-related/topics/14261-the-karma-system. We had a pretty good discussion about it, and we came to the consensus that the system was good, and no one would really take the time to abuse it.

And then this happened.

I mean it was being abused and no one seemed to be noticing it besides me because I thought people might of gotten bombed for no reason, or being negged much more or getting positive karma then what was necessary.
This thread is not the only one who experienced this problem.

Reason why I complain about it is because it seems to becoming kind of a actual problem…

I've noticed the karma negging/bombing before joining (when I was a full-time lurker). Never understood why on earth people would do that. Baffles me. If I give any out, it's because I thought the person had a well-written post, of the photo posted was tasteful and/or wonderfully done. Ah well, guess I'll figure it out some day.

In the meantime, here, because Fluttershy.

ExudesAffluence wrote:

I leave for but a short while and I miss everything rustling to Hell in a jimmy basket… Upvotes for all! I love all of you!

Sorry I accidentally voted your post down.

Anyways, enjoy some Piggy Pie everyone, it is nice to see things cooling down.

Last edited Apr 19, 2012 at 09:13PM EDT

Tim the Enchanter wrote:

Sorry I accidentally voted your post down.

Anyways, enjoy some Piggy Pie everyone, it is nice to see things cooling down.

If not for the very convincing video my love would go elsewhere. But it stays with you.

Also, first downvote get!

Last edited Apr 19, 2012 at 09:16PM EDT
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Soooo…
I decide to come back and not say anything, and this forum is again in a negging frenzy.
You all know my opinion on the whole thing, so I have a suggestion:
-Next Time someone brings up the whole Derpy thing, then don't neg them out and be dicks. Kindly ask them to keep it off the forum.
-If they say something regarding to action being taken, then still don't neg them, instead, send them over to me, and I'll PM them and hash it out with him/her.

See? You guys have less butthurt to deal with and my group benefits as well. Your forum stays mostly clear on the topic, and I get to recruit as well.
So what do you say, can you guys try this out?

My reaction to the down votes at 0:16

We already went through one shitstorm we do not need another one. Arguing will get us nowhere it will only divide us.

I welcome your apology Unknown. btw I found a retort to your holy hand grenade.

update: Are you guys serious? he is making a suggestion, opinions are fine as long as they do not or try to threaten or insult others. He does not deserve that karma bomb.

Last edited Apr 19, 2012 at 10:06PM EDT

Well, look what we have here. Another Clip!

I just realized something.

It's two days to air, and we have not heard either Shining or Cadence's voice yet.

Props, Studio B.

PopperFett the Mandalore wrote:

Soooo…
I decide to come back and not say anything, and this forum is again in a negging frenzy.
You all know my opinion on the whole thing, so I have a suggestion:
-Next Time someone brings up the whole Derpy thing, then don't neg them out and be dicks. Kindly ask them to keep it off the forum.
-If they say something regarding to action being taken, then still don't neg them, instead, send them over to me, and I'll PM them and hash it out with him/her.

See? You guys have less butthurt to deal with and my group benefits as well. Your forum stays mostly clear on the topic, and I get to recruit as well.
So what do you say, can you guys try this out?

Well, that's reasonable enough.

Except, we did specifically tell you that we weren't having anymore of this derpy thing, and you said that you would leave stop.

And that's a very one-sided argument. Our forum would stay clear of the topic, if someone didn't have to bring it up every page. If you recruit people, what do we gain? Less shitstorms? I wonder who causes them anyway.

No point in trying again if it didn't work the first time.

Personally, I strongly disagree with the pointless negs (see my first post on this page), but given the current state of the thread (and KYM as a whole), it's almost like you're asking for them.

We tried it once, it didn't work. We welcome your group to stay here and discuss ponies, but please don't bring up the same topic over and over again. There's more to ponies than just Derpy, you know?


@Nostra
New member! Hmmm, I suggest you come back in a couple pages.

Last edited Apr 19, 2012 at 10:54PM EDT
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